PLP up an running flawless

[GrendelsDad]

I know this is no new discovery but I have 4 monitors running flawlessly in PLP mode with stacked center monitors.

 

 

1080x1920/1920x2160/1080x1920

 portrait     /2 stacked   / portrait

                  landscape

                                 

The benefit is that it mostly eliminates the fisheye effect you see on triple screen setups with out having to go PPP setup which I had for a while.  Let me add that this is running in true resolution no super zoomed in perspective and this is not using SOFT TH.  Great for adding 2 19inch 1280x1024 monitors as wings for your 1920x1080 center monitor with all running at proper resolution.  So dust off those old monitors and try it out it is a game changer

 

The way I have it set up it will work for normal PLP setups also...this means mixed resolutions will work with this fix(workaround) as well too.  I know a lot of people struggle with triple screen setup so if anyone wants to know how just let me know and I will leave a guide.  If not then I just wanted to brag a little.  You need at least windows 8.1 but I am sure it works in windows 10.   Sorry if this is already out there but I just wanted to share what I believe I have figured out.

Edited February 26, 2016 by PimpSauceGrendelsDad

[l_MaD_l]

Please leave a guide .... 

[GrendelsDad]

Okay...give me a day or 2 to put it together. 

[GrendelsDad]

Okay here goes...

1. On the monitor you will use as your main/middle screen go to the NV control panel and create a custom resolution that is equal to the horizontal total of all the monitors. you are using. For example: you have 1 27 inch 1920x 1080 monitor and 2 19 inch 1280 x 1024 monitors. PLP settings would be as follows.

19inch 1024x1280// 27 inch 1920x1080// 19inch 1024x1280 this would equal a custom resolution of 1024+1920+1024=3968x1080
or you could 3968x1280 and only lose 200pixels off the middle monitor but it still looks great. This option should eliminate the fish eye a little better due to the aspect ratio if that is the correct term?
What ever you decide to use the custom res must be done on the 27 inch monitor I do believe.
I had one monitor that wouldn't take the custom resolution but the other 3 did fine.
If there is a major pixel count difference in the monitors, line the bottoms of the monitors up in the control panel settings as well...this will make sure you can select all menus at the bottom in game. For example my system looked like a big H shape. 1080x1920//1920x1080//1080x1920 but it looked great. just had to move the middle screen up and down until I found the sweet spot looking out the front of the plane. took a couple of times moving the monitors physically and in the NVcontrol panel.

When you do this the icons will become very small just find the yes box and click it and after a few blinks it should go back to the 1920x 1080 resolution. because the icons will be small move the NV control panel window to the wing monitor so that you can change resolution back manually should it get stuck on high resolution...This will not effect windows resolution only let the game see that you have that resolution available.

So next start your game and go to video options and change the following settings:
Vsync off (not a must but windows 10 and 8.1 have built in vsync and it ran better for me with vsync off ingame and in NV control panel)

Fullscreen off so you are running in borderless windowed mode

Go to dropdown menu and select resolution...since update 1.2 you have to start game in launcher then select custom resolution from there as if you go to in game menu to change resolution it will not work.  It will not let you select the custom resolution...if you change any settings you will have to restart and go back into game through the laucher again selecting the custom resolution.  It will stay after you set it as long as you do not change any graphics options in game.  if you do change a setting, rinse and repeat.

 

I would like to first thank _ MaD_  for helping me test and consult on this workaround, and also a thanks too Dakpilot for giving me a valuable nugget on Vsync info.  Both were very helpful even if they didn't know it.  Also the racing sim community has a great bit of knowledge on triple screen setups and the like, so thanks much to all of them in general.

 

UPDATE...

I received a broken 4K TV for free...was fixed for $130 dollars now I have this...with custom resolution of 5234x1800 PLP

1017x1808//3200x1800//1017x1808=5234x1800(I have settled on this resolution so I can have better frame rates)

Ideally with SLI I could go to native resolution of  6000x2160?  Not sure if I could even go that high?  It still looks amazing...just for info...The monitors are 2-23inch Dells(1920x1080) and the middle TV is a Samsung 40inch(So when everyone is asleep tonight take the TV out of the living room and set it up...it is amazing).  Just a side note, Had to trick my TV  to run custom resolution at 60hz...it would default to 30hz unless you set it too 1920x1080 @60hz first.  Then I was able to get it to accept custom resolution with 60hz.  This may just  be my TV?  Hope some have found this helpful.

Edited April 10, 2016 by 6./ZG1_GrendelsDad

[GrendelsDad]

do people still do this???

 

I am not responsible if you damage your stuff trying this...Just in case because I have no $ lol.

Edited March 9, 2016 by 6./ZG1_GrendelsDad

[-NW-ChiefRedCloud]

THAT is impressive ......

 

Chief

[l_MaD_l]

So with the ideas GrendelDad shared with me, I decided to make my own setup.

I will try to share my reflections with you:

My setup is one 27' screen with 1920*1080 and to old 19' monitors in portraitmode with 1280*1024 native resolution

It was essential to have space for Teamspeak and for the map as before I used the left monitor for TS and the right one for the great online map you can find here http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/13908-map-stalingrad-web-browser/. The developers should probably think about the possibility to implement a scalable map into the game with the function of this great online map like mission planing and mapsharing with teammates - but this is another story...

So 1st try ended like this:

I left a small border on the sides of the monitors so I could reach the map and TS with a mouseclick:

But I wanted to see the map and TS allways, so my next try was with these settings for the gameresolution:

And these settings for the sidemonitors:

Now I dont have the full view ingame, but have TS complete and can see a bit of the map:

With fullscreen map:

And Teamspeak in detail:

 

Conclusion: Right now my GTX970 can handle this setup offline, I have to try it online once! This is in maximum settings, probalby I have to take them down a little bit ?!

Will try it soon. I really like it - thank you GrendelDad and to this great community! And please developers: Think about a map like we had in good old IL2 1946...

Edited March 10, 2016 by l_MaD_l

[GrendelsDad]

EDIT: I could not set large custom resolutions with SLI enabled.  So just dis-able SLI/ set custom resolution/ enable SLI and you are good to go.

Edited June 30, 2016 by 6./ZG1_GrendelsDad

[MeeGee]

HI, repost from another thread. I really need help with Softth PLP! Feel free to skip the the bold and the quotes for the real issues

 

I think I have skimmed this thread a couple times and maybe decided it wasn't what i was looking for, but on 2nd thoughts maybe I'm wrong - so I assure you I will read it carefully later today in case it's the solution I'm looking for - but I want to make this "please help" post first

 

Sorry for posting in an old thread, I can't seem to find much discussion about this. My question and issues are:

 

 

Has anyone got bezel correction fully working with Il2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad in SoftTH??

 

 

I've been going round in circles for days trying to get it working. Every time I launch, despite the config looking great and having all the correct values, Il2 just ignores it somehow. Softth is giving me the PLP triple screen setup though and in the correct res. All other values seem to register in the config.

 

 

I can't seem to get it working in fullscreen either, only windowed. This may be related, but unsure.

 

In another thread by Kissklass I saw this line:

 

Quote

 

Check that your "fullscreen =" and (most likely also) "desktop_center =" is set to 1.

 

It seems that he might be saying set fullscreen to 1, but when I do that I get a D3D error. I can only run in windowed mode at the moment.

 

My D3D error when I try fullscreen is:

 

"cannot create device d3derr_invalidcall"

 

I haven't tried any other games yet, so not sure if it's an issue purely for il2

 

 

Lastly Grendel or anyone - about the "fisheye effect" you mentioned. I have noticed a strange FOV when in PLP, and in order to counteract it I have to zoom out to a strangely wide FOV which does seem to be a bit fisheye. Is this the issue you mentioned? Is this due to the lack of ultrawide support or is this normal for games in this sort of setup? e.g if I tried DCS in PLP would I get a similar sort of FOV effect? I'm almost at the point of giving up due to these reasons. But I did just spend several days searching for some great old 17 inch panels and getting it all set up, so better try to see it through to really decide once it's actually fully working.

 

Thanks to anyone reading, best wishes

Edited November 11, 2016 by MeeGee

[GrendelsDad]

It may have to do with IL2 now running in 64 bit?  This is purely speculation as I haven't used it(softth) in so long.  I will answer the question better tomorrow when I can gather a few things.

Edited November 14, 2016 by II./ZG1_GrendelsDad

[l_MaD_l]

As described above I dont use softth. For bezel correction I put the two outer monitors a little behind my main screen...: hardware bezel correction ;-)

But right now I dont fly much this sim. More 1946 and Cliffs of Dover.

[SCG_Tzigy]

Okay here goes...

 

1. On the monitor you will use as your main/middle screen go to the NV control panel and create a custom resolution that is equal to the horizontal total of all the monitors. you are using. For example: you have 1 27 inch 1920x 1080 monitor and 2 19 inch 1280 x 1024 monitors. PLP settings would be as follows.

 

19inch 1024x1280// 27 inch 1920x1080// 19inch 1024x1280 this would equal a custom resolution of 1024+1920+1024=3968x1080

or you could 3968x1280 and only lose 200pixels off the middle monitor but it still looks great. This option should eliminate the fish eye a little better due to the aspect ratio if that is the correct term?

What ever you decide to use the custom res must be done on the 27 inch monitor I do believe.

I had one monitor that wouldn't take the custom resolution but the other 3 did fine.

If there is a major pixel count difference in the monitors, line the bottoms of the monitors up in the control panel settings as well...this will make sure you can select all menus at the bottom in game. For example my system looked like a big H shape. 1080x1920//1920x1080//1080x1920 but it looked great. just had to move the middle screen up and down until I found the sweet spot looking out the front of the plane. took a couple of times moving the monitors physically and in the NVcontrol panel.

 

When you do this the icons will become very small just find the yes box and click it and after a few blinks it should go back to the 1920x 1080 resolution. because the icons will be small move the NV control panel window to the wing monitor so that you can change resolution back manually should it get stuck on high resolution...This will not effect windows resolution only let the game see that you have that resolution available.

 

So next start your game and go to video options and change the following settings:

Vsync off (not a must but windows 10 and 8.1 have built in vsync and it ran better for me with vsync off ingame and in NV control panel)

Fullscreen off so you are running in borderless windowed mode

Go to dropdown menu and select resolution...since update 1.2 you have to start game in launcher then select custom resolution from there as if you go to in game menu to change resolution it will not work.  It will not let you select the custom resolution...if you change any settings you will have to restart and go back into game through the laucher again selecting the custom resolution.  It will stay after you set it as long as you do not change any graphics options in game.  if you do change a setting, rinse and repeat.

 

I would like to first thank _ MaD_  for helping me test and consult on this workaround, and also a thanks too Dakpilot for giving me a valuable nugget on Vsync info.  Both were very helpful even if they didn't know it.  Also the racing sim community has a great bit of knowledge on triple screen setups and the like, so thanks much to all of them in general.

 

UPDATE...

I received a broken 4K TV for free...was fixed for $130 dollars now I have this...with custom resolution of 5234x1800 PLP

1017x1808//3200x1800//1017x1808=5234x1800(I have settled on this resolution so I can have better frame rates)

Ideally with SLI I could go to native resolution of  6000x2160?  Not sure if I could even go that high?  It still looks amazing...just for info...The monitors are 2-23inch Dells(1920x1080) and the middle TV is a Samsung 40inch(So when everyone is asleep tonight take the TV out of the living room and set it up...it is amazing).  Just a side note, Had to trick my TV  to run custom resolution at 60hz...it would default to 30hz unless you set it too 1920x1080 @60hz first.  Then I was able to get it to accept custom resolution with 60hz.  This may just  be my TV?  Hope some have found this helpful.

 what GC do u have?

 

I have monitors for total  of 3960x1600 but wonder what hardware i will need to run it really well...

 

thx

[GrendelsDad]

I had single 980 ti at this time I do believe.  I think a 980 or above should keep you at or around 60 fps most of time depending on CPU of course.

Edited November 18, 2016 by II./ZG1_GrendelsDad

[SCG_Tzigy]

thx!