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71st_AH_Hooves
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Hey guys, So I just got back up and running.  But I have the worst performance I ahve EVER seen in this game and it makes no sense.

 

I came from a GTX 670 4 gig, 16gig s ddr 1800, and an i5 2750K.  I could run the game well on High settings.  with only the occasional stutter on Ultra.   1920 x 1080 28in samsung monitor

 

I am now running a GTX 980 4 gig, 16 gigs of DDR4 2800, with an I7 5820.  32in 2560x1440 ACER monitor

 

 I get 15-18 FPS  ON EVERY SETTING.  running the 8 v 8 scenario causes my rig to fall apart.  Im REALLY dissapointed here.  

 

I have all the latest drivers FOR EVERYTHING.  Mobo, GFX card, even my hard drive.  Performace is pitiful, so bad I ant continue to play thi sis it isnt resolved.  

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Hmmm, 'trial n error' fun times ahead for you by the sounds of it.

 

Anyway, you probably know most of this already.

 

I would begin by downloading HWinfo64. Watch the percentages and temps. 

MSI Afterburner - same thing watch those percentages and temps.

 

Anything unusual? Probably not I expect.

 

PSU giving you enough power? You will be able to tell after running the above.

Check the cores and fans on the GTX980, they're not winding down by any chance?

 

Windows? Powersaving? Have you adjusted for maximum performance or is it still on default?

 

Pull out that GTX 980. Put back in your old card and try it all again.

 

I recently updated my GTX970 to the lastest Nvidia drivers which were just released. They didn't seem very good - they made some of my games a little choppy - Rolled back and problem went away.

 

 

How does your rig run with other games? BF4 or something similar?

 

Good Luck!

71st_AH_Hooves
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Thanks for the quick reply, I Downloaded HWin and TBH I cant make heads or tails of the info.  I have an 850 watt PSU that should be plenty.  Other games such as WT run like a champ.  

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Hooves, I have same card and will try to post screen shots of my nvidia control panel which gets me 45-90fps+. Can't do so until tomorrow late evening though...I wouldn't worry too much, once you get it set up it will be smoother.

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71st_AH_Hooves
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So, I have gone into my NVIDIA control panel and turned every thing OFF.  I still cant get a remotely decent frame rate in the 8 v 8 scenario.  I also have EXTREME jutter when in flyby mode, when the aircraft paces the camera it drops to 2 fps for 1-2 seconds.  Every other game is running very well.

71st_AH_Hooves
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I've also just begun to roll back my video drivers. We'll see what happens

71st_AH_Hooves
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my performance in the duel quick mission is OK though I experience dramatic FPS swings.  from the 20's to the 100's  but the 8 v 8 performance is DRAMATICALLY worse than my previous rig, I5, gtx 670  which I find INCREDIBLY frustrating.

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I would try to match this settings list and see where you stand. Also Click on Full Screen, don't go windowed, That's how I run it.

 

For what its worth, I have the latest drivers, and they have helped, not hurt my system.

 

 

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I do get fps swings from 30 to 140 (looking straight up). Based on my old system, versus new, I got an average increase of 1 frame per second for every 100 hz increase in the cpu. This Is attributable to cpu speed only, not gpu. Side note: Flying The He111 unfortunately is a huge draw on my system resources, more than any other aircraft. In the worst case, I've seen frames dip down to 30 in my case, and you can hear the poor computer struggling.

Edited by roaming_gnome
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Try locking the frame rates to 30 Fps in the game settings  and in the NVidia control panel it might stop the performance spikes

71st_AH_Hooves
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Thanks for the help friends. I.will.try these things tonight after work. I'm finally getting my replacement track ir and my Obutto joystick mounts today!

6./ZG26_Emil
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This should not be happening with your setup so something is wrong. I also play in 1440p (I was actually playing in 2560x1600 before) and performance was fine with a single 780GTX but I am using an i5 not an i7.

 

Have you overclocked your processor and also have you tried disabling hyperthreading? some people suggest this for many games.

71st_AH_Hooves
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Thanks for the suggestions, I have been able to get some performance back, but only in single or small number sof planes.  This game jsut is NOT optimized well AT ALL..  Im so bummed, EVERY other game I own runs like a dream on this new rig. This game just struggles for no reason. 

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Hoove

 

Thanks for the suggestions, I have been able to get some performance back, but only in single or small number sof planes.  This game jsut is NOT optimized well AT ALL..  Im so bummed, EVERY other game I own runs like a dream on this new rig. This game just struggles for no reason. 

 

Things you might check (if you already didnt). Check if you have any antivirus or antispyware active. This can slow down games. Also check if all of your cpu cores are working. You might need to disable core parking (google it). Also check in the nvidia control panel, if Power management mode is set to Prefer maximum performance. By defualt is set to Adaptive which means your GPU will slow down sometimes - which can cause low fps.

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71st_AH_Hooves
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Hoove

 

 

Things you might check (if you already didnt). Check if you have any antivirus or antispyware active. This can slow down games. Also check if all of your cpu cores are working. You might need to disable core parking (google it). Also check in the nvidia control panel, if Power management mode is set to Prefer maximum performance. By defualt is set to Adaptive which means your GPU will slow down sometimes - which can cause low fps.

I have tried everything you have suggested, I "unparked" all my cores and double checked I have no Anti virus running, I'm still stuck in the teens for framerate on any SP or MP server no matter if there are 0 or 30 people on the server.  I'm heart broken that this is the ONLY game I'm having problems with.  its EXTREMELY frustrating.  WT, DCS, ARMA all run slick as snot in this new rig with nearly double framerate increases over my old rig.  but this game acts as if I'm trying to play it on a commador.

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Only other advice I have is from experience. I once thought it would be sufficient to jack up the boost speed of my processor without increasing core cpu voltage. Was I ever wrong. As soon as it tried to use the boss speed it would bog down. So the core voltage has to be increased along with any increase in speed.

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I have tried everything you have suggested, I "unparked" all my cores and double checked I have no Anti virus running, I'm still stuck in the teens for framerate on any SP or MP server no matter if there are 0 or 30 people on the server.  I'm heart broken that this is the ONLY game I'm having problems with.  its EXTREMELY frustrating.  WT, DCS, ARMA all run slick as snot in this new rig with nearly double framerate increases over my old rig.  but this game acts as if I'm trying to play it on a commador.

Try reinstalling DirectX9....

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Do you use the standard terrain.ini file or it modified?

71st_AH_Hooves
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So I FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It wasn't DX9 it was this option buried in my BIOS to turn on "3d Mark Turbo Enabled"...   What ever that is.  Now Im smokin 60 fps standard everywhere!!!!!  

 

 

Thanks again for all the help.  If you guys hadn't been giving me suggestions I wouldn't have dug in to find that one!!!! 

 

CHEERS I wish I could buy everyone a PINT!!  TY JW for the helping hand as well!!  man AM Im relieved its not a bad part lol!!!!

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Try reinstalling DirectX9....

 

I know it's a pain but I'd re-install the whole game and be sure to accept all the DirectX stuff that it offers you.

 

Edit; cross-post with yours Hooves.

 

Congratulations and big sigh of relief.  S! 

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It wasn't DX9 it was this option buried in my BIOS to turn on "3d Mark Turbo Enabled"...   What ever that is.  Now Im smokin 60 fps standard everywhere!!!!!  

 

Wow... What is your motherboard pls ?

FuriousMeow
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Thanks for the suggestions, I have been able to get some performance back, but only in single or small number sof planes.  This game jsut is NOT optimized well AT ALL..  Im so bummed, EVERY other game I own runs like a dream on this new rig. This game just struggles for no reason. 

 

Hooves, you may have been frustrated but this is just inaccurate as you've found out it was a setting on your local system. I'd agree it is not optimized well at all, if it wasn't, but this, and RoF, are the most optimized air combat sims out there.

 

You want unoptimized? ArmA series. That's negative optimization.

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71st_AH_Mastiff
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So I FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It wasn't DX9 it was this option buried in my BIOS to turn on "3d Mark Turbo Enabled"...   What ever that is.  Now Im smokin 60 fps standard everywhere!!!!!  

 

 

Thanks again for all the help.  If you guys hadn't been giving me suggestions I wouldn't have dug in to find that one!!!! 

 

CHEERS I wish I could buy everyone a PINT!!  TY JW for the helping hand as well!!  man AM Im relieved its not a bad part lol!!!!

thank god, another bios add-on, Jesus what will they think of next. lol

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=EXPEND=Dendro
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Glad to hear you sorted it Hooves.... I have a R9 270X and was just thinking of upgrading to a GTX 980 and I got worried when I saw this.

 

You reckon the 980 will do the trick with an i5 CPU? Only problem is that the 980 is 3x the price of my current card and probably double what you guys in the states pay !!! :wacko:

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Hooves, you may have been frustrated but this is just inaccurate as you've found out it was a setting on your local system. I'd agree it is not optimized well at all, if it wasn't, but this, and RoF, are the most optimized air combat sims out there.

 

You want unoptimized? ArmA series. That's negative optimization.

In fact Bohemia is fixing things with updates. And one (who know how) can always tune his settings and rig to avoid any problems in ARMA3 or any other game. BTW check this link. It has a great guide how to optimise ARMA3. It helped me alot.

http://day0.com.au/forum/arma/638-arma-3-performance-tweaks-and-settings-guide

Edited by blackram_
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In fact Bohemia is fixing things with updates. And one (who know how) can always tune his settings and rig to avoid any problems in ARMA3 or any other game. BTW check this link. It has a great guide how to optimise ARMA3. It helped me alot.

http://day0.com.au/forum/arma/638-arma-3-performance-tweaks-and-settings-guide

sorry for offtopic but tell me name of multiplayer serwer or  mission in arma 3 where you get 60 fps :lol:

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sorry for offtopic but tell me name of multiplayer serwer or  mission in arma 3 where you get 60 fps :lol:

Didnt measure FPS but no probs with performance and I have rather old i7920 (OC to 4Ghz) and GTX 670, SSD HD....And how can you compare such a complex "3 point warfare" (land, air and sea) sim with other games..it has huuge 1:1 maps, advanced physics, graphics, ballistic, tons of models, houses (which are enterable) etc....

yes we are off topic...sry, no more from me

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