Logitech G 940 Flight System

[Allons]

Hi all, as i have it and i love it and hate it as well for all the known problems i open this thread for exchange of profiles and questions as well.

 

Lets hope we get something to fly with soon

 

Best, Allons!

[ST_ami7b5]

Good idea!

But pls. don't map those f...g throttle rotaries anybody 

I have stopped using them altogether.

Edited October 6, 2013 by ami7b5

[O_catarM]

I would love to see another complete system  but better quality on the market.Do you use Logitech profiler? i just set all my keys in game, works better imo.I hope FFB is going to be same as ROF so I don't have to change setting every time I fly BOS

[Mars27]

The rotaries are not that hard to fix using the individial wires from a spare length of ethernet cable - just a bit fiddly. I map everything using the profiler in everything I play as your missing out on the ability to get the maximum out of the sticks programmability. Tip: key strokes work better than 'commands' I find. Cycling commands is a useful function to have. Just make sure you un-map anything that will clash with the wingman profile within the game itself which I think is the mistake most people make who then go on to say that the wingman software is ****.

 

Excellent setup for the price with some easily fixed quirks (if you do manage to buy one, do the throttle screw fix immediately).

[Allons]

Excellent setup for the price with some easily fixed quirks (if you do manage to buy one, do the throttle screw fix immediately).

 

In fact i didnt, still going strong. And have the elevator trim mapped to R2 wich works quite good..

 

Glad to see you guys

 

Best, Allons!

[ST_ami7b5]

Oh, I forgot to say I'm maybe not quite standard G940 user, because I also use Saitek Pro Throttle Quadrant

 

 

I map radiator, mixture and prop pitch there...

Edited October 9, 2013 by ami7b5

[Allons]

Hi all, as i recently started flying RoF i stumbled over this link providing 2 different profiles for the G940. I found the "light" one very useful, maybe its of use for you guys too.

 

*extra* “Light” G940 profiles for Rise of Flight (driver 5.09) | Zerotown

 

Best wishes for this Friday & Weekend, Allons!

[HippyDruid]

Here's a handy link to a G940 reversal bug workaround for the throttle and the pedal twist axes, by FifthColumnist on the RoF forums.

http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=350&t=30005

Edited October 11, 2013 by HippyDruid

[Allons]

Sounds good, has anyone tested it on the sim that must not be mentioned?

[HippyDruid]

Yeh,it recognises ppjoy so it works fine.

[Allons]

Hm, i answered in the RoF forum, didnt work out of the box with Win7-64. If we get this working i will write a manual how to fix it.

 

Best, Allons!

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Oh, I forgot to say I'm maybe not quite standard G940 user, because I also use Saitek Pro Throttle Quadrant

 

 

I map radiator, mixture and prop pitch there...

Ditto But i use trim instead of radiator.

Edited October 15, 2013 by 322Sqn_Dusty

[DD_Crash]

The left toe brake axis has stopped working. Are there any photo guides on how to strip it down? I have seen the vid on tightening the connections on the main pot but cant find how to get at the toe brake axis.

[Sokol1]

Sounds good, has anyone tested it on the sim that must not be mentioned? [

 

Assuming that this "not be mentioned" is Cliffs of Dover, users report that G-940 work, some settings:

 

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25118&page=2

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=372214&postcount=18

 

But FF in this sim (like many things  ) is "inconsistent"... As in il-2 1946 is lost if you use Alt+Tab, etc.

 

 

 

The left toe brake axis has stopped working. Are there any photo guides on how to strip it down? I have seen the vid on tightening the connections on the main pot but cant find how to get at the toe brake axis.

 

Probable a fault pot or broken cable - G-940 is "brainless", dont have electronic circuit inside, depend on one inside throttle.

 

Here a guy open one (not a tuto).

 

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/117741-g940-pedal-fix/

 

Here replace the pot' for a beter quality one:

 

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/topic/328267/gonew/1.html

 

Sokol1

Edited October 15, 2013 by Sokol1

[322Sqn_Dusty]

The G940 serie i've got has no reverse bug nor heats up during intensive use.

[SYN_DerHesse70]

My G940 also!

[Allons]

Interesting, when did you buy it? Maybe we can swap ours against new one?

[DD_Crash]

Thanks for the info Sokol 1. I am sure that there was a strip down of the G940 by some Russian guys when it first came out but I cant find it! Actually my 940 throttle has been modded using a Leo board and the rudder pedals use that. Here is what I did http://dangerdogz.com/forums/topic/10450-logi-g940-throttle-mod/

Edited October 16, 2013 by DD_Crash

[Allons]

Hihi, that Audi TT graphic is nice...

 

Back to topic, my G940 works quite nice in CoD (wouldnt be spiking and reverse bug..) even better in RoF where i love to have my turns exactly at the "sweet spot" with FF.

 

G´night all, Allons!

Edited October 16, 2013 by Stab/ZG26-Allons

[OBT-Psycho]

same for me. I endured some annoying spike effect on the throtlle but I grabed the screwdriver and some tightener and now it is all gone.

 

It is quite difficult to find correct FFB setting as there are too many possibilites, but once you got it it works like a charme. And it is even better in RoF as FFB are better recreated in ROF than in CoD.

 

I discover I have some spiking on the rudder when I push the right pedal slowly, so I plan in a near future to replace the pot with a better one. but first I have to learn how to solder stuff.

 

maybe some day I will replace wires in the throttle, but it is way down on my actual bucket list

[Allons]

Update to incorporate Hagar the chequered´s advice on R1/R2 wheels..

[JaMz]

I have a G940 and I started having problems with the rotary's moving/spiking when using the throttle levers.

 

I took the throttle apart to see if there were any obvious vaults. The wire that runs up to the rotary's was attached such a way that it looked like it was stretched hence being pulled when I pusjed and pulled on the throttle levers.

 

I literally unplugged said cable from the board and rerouted under another cable which basically freed up some room so it wasn't tight anymore..

 

It really was that simple to cure an annoying problem. Throttling down to find my nose trim has shot up. Not the best situation when flying..

 

On another note...I don't use my G940 to its full potential..I can never seem to successfully assign commands to it and they are seen in game and as for the (3) mode switch on the throttle..does that even work?. I thought that might be an easy case of having potentially 3 lots of keys to map. Again cant seem to get that to work either

[DD_bongodriver]

as for the (3) mode switch on the throttle..does that even work?.

 

 

Yes but only if you create a game profile through the Logitech software.

Has anyone got an idea where I could source a hall sensor that I can replace my rudder pot?

[JaMz]

Yes but only if you create a game profile through the Logitech software.

Has anyone got an idea where I could source a hall sensor that I can replace my rudder pot?

 

I have tried that numerous times but when I then switch the mode from say 1 to 2 and try mapping a command in game it just sees the original joystick button regardless of what 'Mode' its in

[DD_bongodriver]

I have tried that numerous times but when I then switch the mode from say 1 to 2 and try mapping a command in game it just sees the original joystick button regardless of what 'Mode' its in

 

Can't map it in game, you must do the very long and arduous task of setting the functions in the profiler, so you need to effectively set all in game controls to a keystroke or key combinations and make a note of them and then set up the profiler to assign those keystrokes/combinations in the game profile.

 

When used to full effect the profiler is quite a usefull bit of kit, even the axis can be set up to have ranged functions.

Edited November 3, 2013 by DD_bongodriver

[OBT-Psycho]

I have a profile using the 3 modes. Basically, it is mode 1 for take off and landing procedure, mode 2 for air combat and mode 3 for bombers procedure. I have the same glitches with the profiler. Sometime when I try to configure a key on mode 3, I enter my input to set the command and once back to the main screen, the device has switched back to mode 1. you just have to play a bit with the mode switch to get it back to mode 3.

 

As for the spiking, I did a known fix where you just tighten the black cable coming from the throttle preventing it to move when you move the throttle. It worked out pretty well though. 

[Pudfark]

Just wanted to chime in and say Thanks for the info here.

I've had my G940 for a few years....problems ever since and it has been shelved.

My problems were identical to the ones Jamz has had/having.

 

Looks like I now have a winter project.  Is there a single source in the U.S. that has all the parts necessary to fix this?

I really like the idea of "Hall" sensors, though the CH type would be more than acceptable.

Thank You All.

 

S!

[DD_bongodriver]

I heard the CH pot is a suitable replacement for the G940 rudder pot, bloody annoying but the toe brake pots are really good and precise then they go and throw in that garbage noisy pot for the rudder.

 

Anybody know of a suitable hall sensor for the job? or even know where to get a spare CH pot?

[OBT-Psycho]

I might be confused here... I thought Hall sensors were force sensors only. I mean by this than if you got this on a rudder, the pedals won't really move anymore, but looking for the force of the input. Am I wrong here? 'cause if I am right, this could be a sweet thing to have on my rudders to fit properly my rig

[DD_bongodriver]

No, a hall sensor is a magnetic position sensor, it has no parts that contact so doesn't wear out and get dirty, the g940 uses hall sensors instead of pots in the pitch and roll axis.

 

in my quest for a suitable hall sensor I may have found one finally

 

http://www.frex.com/gp/hallpot/

[OBT-Psycho]

ok, you had my attention, now you've got my interest.

 

I will vbe very interested in a described topic on how to fit these into the rudder pedal, or even in the joystick. I've no idea how difficult or not it would be but if you find a way to put it into the G940, just let me know

[DD_bongodriver]

I will keep an update going if I decide to take the plunge, in the mean time a bit of advice for sufferers of the rudder spiking, it is possible to alleviate the symptoms for a while if you open the bottom of the pedal base and take out the rudder pot and by simply rotating the shaft to its extents several times and replace, this tends to fix it for me and the results can last months.

[Dakpilot]

"in my quest for a suitable hall sensor I may have found one finally..."

 

Nice find, initially i thought this could be a good mod for Saitek throttle quadrant, am sure it would work ok, but will work out rather expensive for the three levers

 

Each pot is almost the cost of The quadrant,   before shipping/customs etc.

 

Still i guess quality does not come cheap

 

Cheers Dakpilot

Edited November 7, 2013 by Dakpilot

[DD_bongodriver]

5 Japanese Yen each, yes it's going to cost and still they are not a 'drop in' replacement, shaft size is different etc.

[Dakpilot]

"5 Japanese Yen each"

 

Looked like 4980 japanese yen to me?

 

http://frex.xsrv.jp/gpshop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_27&products_id=110

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[DD_bongodriver]

Holy crap!!!! you're right, it simply didn't register because it makes no sense, £30 each is waaaayy to much.....lucky I didn't order 10

Edited November 7, 2013 by DD_bongodriver

[=LD=Hethwill]

Let's say a second hand G940 system, with little "flying" time. Would 180€ be fair ?

 

Hard to find any in stock anywhere but trying to fit in a deal with a dude which bought one and decided sims are not his deal.

[DD_bongodriver]

if it's in good nick and everything works they yes it's fair

[ST_ami7b5]

if it's in good nick and everything works they yes it's fair

 

+1

 

I've bought mine for €299 (~2 yrs ago)

[Sokol1]

Anybody know of a suitable hall sensor for the job? or even know where to get a spare CH pot?

 

CH pot' you can buy from http://www.res-rich.com/chproducts_com/www.chproducts.com/shop/parts.html

 

The advantage on use CH pot is the similar dimensions of original one, that make ease replace.

A good ceramic pot, Bourns, Clarostat, Spectrol (10 - 50 k linear) is suitable, but probable need adaptations on (pot') pole.

 

HALL sensor, talk to Argon-V in SimHQ forum, he know a US reseller for Midori QP-2HC HALL sensor

 

http://www.midoriamerica.com/pdf/QP-2HC.pdf

 

Is the same sensor used in Cub Pilot MOD's for HOTAS Cougar/Tm Pedals.

 

Other option:

 

http://www.potentiometers.com/select_hall.cfm?session_num=2010012708011362

 

To buy direct from China look at http://www.aliexpress.com/

 

Sokol1

Edited November 7, 2013 by Sokol1