E69_Chesterfield Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Hello one PROPOSITION: Enter maps ROF in the BOS. Work already have done. Three maps would win more. Thank You.
IRRE_Belmont Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Sure, I always wanted to fight over Verdin with a fricking 109 1
Urra Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Maps are one thing, but one of the best thing about ROF is landing on water and enjoying the scenery. Weye there any planes with pontoons over Russia in 1941????? Would love to see that.
1CGS LukeFF Posted February 28, 2015 1CGS Posted February 28, 2015 The terrain changed a whole lot between 1918 and 1941. No thanks, it would look ridiculous.
Rama Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 The terrain changed a whole lot between 1918 and 1941. No thanks, it would look ridiculous. Agree, the maps would need a lot of rework in order to be usable. 1
SharpeXB Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 I always thought 777 made the channel map so someday it could be used for WWII. It seemed an odd choice for WWI.
ShamrockOneFive Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Maps are one thing, but one of the best thing about ROF is landing on water and enjoying the scenery. Weye there any planes with pontoons over Russia in 1941????? Would love to see that. Yep... the Beriev MBR-2. Edited March 1, 2015 by ShamrockOneFive
Dakpilot Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 I would have thought inspiration island could make an appearance with just a little work... Cheers Dakpilot 1
312_strycekFido Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Well in the old Il-2 we were flying with western planeset over eastern front, time to do it the other way around :D And i don't think the place changed too much between wars, hills and rivers don't move (mucuh) and i saw photos of recognizable wwi trenches from present day. All you need to do is remove muddy front line and i think that's not that hard, since you can see green grass flash under brown trench texture in ME during loading on weaker pcs. So its probably just another layer that can be deleted. Or shifted, it always bugged why there isn't more maps from different war periods with proper front line placement. It did move more than few meters on some occasions. 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted March 1, 2015 1CGS Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) And i don't think the place changed too much between wars, hills and rivers don't move (mucuh) and i saw photos of recognizable wwi trenches from present day. All you need to do is remove muddy front line and i think that's not that hard, since you can see green grass flash under brown trench texture in ME during loading on weaker pcs. So its probably just another layer that can be deleted. Or shifted, it always bugged why there isn't more maps from different war periods with proper front line placement. It did move more than few meters on some occasions. It would be way more than that. For one, you'd have to remove all the of the WWI airfields and replace them with ones appropriate for WWII. Secondly, more of the map would need to be fleshed out with cities and towns (and new airfields), since much of the north/northeast part of the map is essentially a blank slate. That, and I defer to people like Rama who are French and thus know far more about the geography of France than I'll ever know. Edited March 1, 2015 by LukeFF
E69_Chesterfield Posted March 1, 2015 Author Posted March 1, 2015 It was a suggestion no mood to bother anybody .. Hope maps summer, thanks to all.
senseispcc Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 For me it is a normal and why not proposition ! It could also led to a game on the Western front?! With the addition of some planes, airfields but the basic structure of the ground is there! Yes, do not forget to get rid of the front lines?! A lot of work but maybe less than doing it all from scratch!
Rama Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 I would have thought inspiration island could make an appearance with just a little work... This one yes. Some format change and it would work.
Rama Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 For me it is a normal and why not proposition ! It could also led to a game on the Western front?! With the addition of some planes, airfields but the basic structure of the ground is there! Yes, do not forget to get rid of the front lines?! A lot of work but maybe less than doing it all from scratch! As Luke said, it would be a lot of work to change the cities layout (who changed quite a lot) and to create a new set of airfields. the railroad network and road network would need some change too, as does all the textures to be adapted to BoS standards. So basically, all you would keep is the height map, the river map and some of the networks.... which is a very minor part of the whole work (and I know what I'm talking about since I did most of this very minor part....). BTW, on the western front map, the river layout is modern (I used a modern database) and if redone, it would be nicer with an historical adapted layout. But the main point isn't even there. It's about the war theater. The western front map in WW2 could be used mainly for the Battle of France. And then, to be really usefull, it should be redesigned to be centered on the Ardennes. The overall area should be shifted and the part of the map you want to focus on details changed. Same for the Channel map. If you want to have a map for the Battle of England, the global area should be adapted, and London included. So maybe you could do something with less work than doing it from scratch (saving maybe 10% ?).... but it would not be really adapted to the historical operations. 1
Rama Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 It was a suggestion no mood to bother anybody .. Hope maps summer, thanks to all. Something like this? 7
CaK_Rumcajs Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) This is a great idea. I dream one day ROF and BOS(M) .. will be merged into one product. I can fancy strafing the pesky Yaks at Grishin with my old trusty Albatros DVa. OK for now the WW1 map would be a nice relief from all that snow around Stalingrad. If only we were given couple of WW2 airfields to take off from and we would be fine. It doesn't have to be historical to bring some joy. Edited March 1, 2015 by II./JG1_Rumcajs
oneeyeddog Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 It was a suggestion no mood to bother anybody .. Hope maps summer, thanks to all. Thanks Chesterfield. I thought it a question worthy of posting.
J2_Trupobaw Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Germans and Soviets fighting over underdeveloped France using 1942/3 planes? Sounds like something straight from original Command and Conquer:Red Alert or similar alternative history (with emphasis on alternative). Make sure to base scenarios on Wargrounds mission set, the tank factories placed 2km behind the front will fit the C&C theme perfectly . *If* we had 1940 or 1944 planes for both sides, maybe. As it is, it would be pure fantasy map. Edited March 1, 2015 by Trupobaw
Mikey Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Does the map have to be historical to be added ? this sounds kinda silly considering earlier dev diary's saying mods will be...If this work is already done then why stop it from coming into game
CF-105 Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Sure, I always wanted to fight over Verdin with a fricking 109 Holy hell, you read my mind!
1CGS LukeFF Posted March 2, 2015 1CGS Posted March 2, 2015 This is a great idea. I dream one day ROF and BOS(M) .. will be merged into one product. I can fancy strafing the pesky Yaks at Grishin with my old trusty Albatros DVa. OK for now the WW1 map would be a nice relief from all that snow around Stalingrad. If only we were given couple of WW2 airfields to take off from and we would be fine. It doesn't have to be historical to bring some joy. Not gonna happen. If this work is already done then why stop it from coming into game Read the above posts. The current Western Front map in ROF is in no way, shape, or form ready for import into a WWII title.
unreasonable Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Apart from everything else mentioned by others, the art values of the old RoF maps are subtly different from the BoS map, if I may be allowed a qualitative judgment. Without a total rework I suspect that the BoS planes would look odd and wrong against the RoF backgrounds. Better to keep the work effort consistent within the new aesthetic, IMHO. 2
Dauntless Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) We need a summer/late summer map!! Every one probably knows this but I'm gona put it here anyway From the Jewish Virtual Library http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/ww2/Stalingrad.html "Between 25 July and 31 July, 32 Soviet ships were sunk with another nine crippled. The battle began with the heavy bombing of the city by the Generaloberst von Richthofen’s Luftflotte 4, which in the summer and autumn of 1942 was the mightiest single air command in the world. Some 1,000 tons were dropped. The city was quickly turned to rubble, although some factories survived and continued production whilst workers joined in the fighting." Looks like a good place to start a real campain. I believe the real air war was before winter set in. Edited March 16, 2015 by Dauntless
Dakpilot Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Summer/Autumn map/s for Stalingrad have been confirmed and in the pipeline as free update Cheers Dakpilot
ShamrockOneFive Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Yep, looking forward to the Summer and Autumn Stalingrad maps and the single player campaign that goes along with them too!
II./JG53Lutzow_z06z33 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 How about this a story for the maps. a As Germany is falling during ww2. Dr.Megahertz the Nazi scientist who is reserching time travel has a break through a working time portal he convinces Goring to give him a wing of fighters to send back to ww1 to change the course of the war to ensure a German victory. The pilots are all picked and sent through the portal in their planes. Dr.Megahertz has a alternative motive he know that if the German win ww1 the Nazis will never come to power thus saving millions.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 How about this a story for the maps. a As Germany is falling during ww2. Dr.Megahertz the Nazi scientist who is reserching time travel has a break through a working time portal he convinces Goring to give him a wing of fighters to send back to ww1 to change the course of the war to ensure a German victory. The pilots are all picked and sent through the portal in their planes. Dr.Megahertz has a alternative motive he know that if the German win ww1 the Nazis will never come to power thus saving millions. But if Dr Megahertz wins WW1 then the future Dr Megahertz won't get the Nazi funding necessary for the time travel in the first place creating a conundrum? Still if we can have Nazi Zombies I'm on board :D
II./JG53Lutzow_z06z33 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) But if Dr Megahertz wins WW1 then the future Dr Megahertz won't get the Nazi funding necessary for the time travel in the first place creating a conundrum? Still if we can have Nazi Zombies I'm on board :D Hey this story happens in the same universe that sharknado and Iron sky occurred in so basically realism doesn't matter lol. Something like this? Kinda but it'd be the Russian fighter burning if I was flying the 109 Lol Edited March 20, 2015 by OCTz06z33
Rjel Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Sure, I always wanted to fight over Verdin with a fricking 109[/quote To be honest, I always enjoyed flying against different eras in Chuck Yeager's Air Combat. It was just a fun diversion.
Uriah Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 I wish for the ability for the devs and modders to be able to take something like google maps with its terrain features and current ability to fly over areas like in a sim plane (not a very good one at moment). The devs and modders could make new maps and we could fly over all sorts of interesting places just for the fun of it. I am thinking like flying and fighting over my home town and places like the Grand Canyon.
CF-105 Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 TBH, I wouldn't mind Inspiration Island coming into the game, just for a quick relief before the other seasons are patched in. Just flatten one or two airfields, put a rectangular concrete texture onto it, and it's fine by me!
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