Primus_71 Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 The dserver doesn't need a gaming PC. If one of your squad has a notebook, that will be good enough. You can run the dserver behind the same router as the gaming PC. The advantage of that setup is a stable host. I prefered this setup even when just flying duels. Thanks for the tip. We'll give it a try and see how it works when the dserver is released next week then
1CGS Han Posted February 20, 2015 1CGS Posted February 20, 2015 Actualy it's not a problem to run a DServer simultaneously with Game on one mid-core PC. But DServer requires a game account to run. So if you want to run DServer and Game simultaneously - you need to have two accounts - one for DServer and one for game. 1
poppet Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 And this is the sim where updates are hitting the records! Well, other than this the only with a higher frequency of updates and goodies made available to it's users is Aerowinx PSX! 1C/777, you're GREAT! Hello Jose, honestly i'm not a stalker Yes fantastic communication between Developers and the IL2 community, Impressive stuff, Really enjoying the experience
FlyingNutcase Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Wow, this update is tackling "the two biggies" and a whole bunch of little things. Nice work. It'll be interesting to see what the laundry list looks like after this, lol. One big anticipation: In what form will the FME be? Given the much earlier than expected release, the money has to be on a direct port from the ROF editor. Only a few days to wait... Edited February 20, 2015 by FlyingNutcase
FS_Fenice_1965 Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Will the standard account have all features in the Dserver or will it be essential to have premium account to have servers with 190s ? 2
Requiem Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Big patch incoming and it looks good, especially with the dserver and mission editor! Seeing those there was a nice surprise I really like the idea of modeling hypoxia too as that should add an interesting dynamic to combat. I have a minor question: Does the pressure altitude at which the hypoxia can start decrease at night time or is it set at 3000m regardless of day or night? I bring this up since the altitude at which hypoxia can start has been known to decrease at night time to around 5000ft (1500m). Not a big deal in the scheme of things but the time of day is a factor. Edited February 20, 2015 by SYN_Requiem
Bussard_x Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Flight sim is evolution not revolution. Thanks for this, looking forward to try.
Soarfeat Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Big patch incoming and it looks good, especially with the dserver and mission editor! Seeing those there was a nice surprise I really like the idea of modeling hypoxia too as that should add an interesting dynamic to combat. I have a minor question: Does the pressure altitude at which the hypoxia can start decrease at night time or is it set at 3000m regardless of day or night? I bring this up since the altitude at which hypoxia can start has been known to decrease at night time to around 5000ft (1500m). Not a big deal in the scheme of things but the time of day is a factor. Good point Req. I would also be concerned about hypemic hypoxia from exhaust leaks ( like from bullet strikes ) during the day and below 10,000 ft, but hopefully if the aircraft was hit in the exhaust there are bullet holes else where to allow more fresh O2 in ( joking of course !!! )
avlSteve Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Sweet! I'll be in Vegas next week, but anxious to get back and try this out.
Beazil Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Will the standard account have all features in the Dserver or will it be essential to have premium account to have servers with 190s ? I suppose we might know the answer if someone who has owned the plain version could tell us if the AI versions of the fw and or the la5 appear in game. That should be a strong hint anyway. Good question. Edited February 21, 2015 by Beazil
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Will the standard account have all features in the Dserver or will it be essential to have premium account to have servers with 190s ? I imagine it shouldn't be any different than ROF; you can fly in a server with 190's, you just can't fly a 190. Edited February 21, 2015 by FalkeEins
IIN8II Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Lots of great fixes and additions! Just missing f11 though 1
Bearcat Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Actualy it's not a problem to run a DServer simultaneously with Game on one mid-core PC. But DServer requires a game account to run. So if you want to run DServer and Game simultaneously - you need to have two accounts - one for DServer and one for game. ...... uhhhhh what? So are you saying with this that I cannot say .. host a mission from my PC .. and fly that same mission along with my mates.. like I could with IL2? Does this mean that in order to host a server and fly in it I will need two installs? In IL2 the Dserver was a separate piece of SW that came with the sim.. You could actually set up a Dserver even without IL2 on the same PC from what I remember.. Will the Dserver be the only way to host missions from here on out or are there plans a foot to offer up some kind of hosting from the game install?
LizLemon Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Actualy it's not a problem to run a DServer simultaneously with Game on one mid-core PC. But DServer requires a game account to run. So if you want to run DServer and Game simultaneously - you need to have two accounts - one for DServer and one for game. So this means anyone wanting to run co-op will have to buy two accounts, right?
No601_Swallow Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I'm far from being an expert, but presumably the dserver.exe (or whatever it is) isn't an install of the game, but just a program or "app" or something. Soooo... it looks like we'd need to be running the dserver and the game at the same time, and both of them would need a registered account here at il2stumovik.com.
DD_Arthur Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I'm far from being an expert, but presumably the dserver.exe (or whatever it is) isn't an install of the game, but just a program or "app" or something. Soooo... it looks like we'd need to be running the dserver and the game at the same time, and both of them would need a registered account here at il2stumovik.com. That's what I'm getting from Han too. Single machine. Two registered accounts.
BlitzPig_EL Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 How can you have two accounts without purchasing the game twice? You cannot have two accounts on the forum, yes? Something is amiss here.
DD_Arthur Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 You cannot have two accounts on the forum, yes? I have a feeling there are several people with two accounts on this forum but whether we'll need two copies of the game to host and fly seems unclear. I sincerely hope not.
TG-55Panthercules Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I have a feeling there are several people with two accounts on this forum but whether we'll need two copies of the game to host and fly seems unclear. I sincerely hope not. It's been a while since I did this so my recollection may be a bit fuzzy, but IIRC when I was running a dserver for testing with RoF I was able to run both it and the game (to fly in the dserver missions) on my same PC but I did have to have a second copy of the game and a second account for the dserver instance. That was easy/free to do because I could use a Free-2-Play version of the game and free account to run the dserver instance, but I suspect that means I'd have to buy a second copy of the game if I wanted to do that with BoS, based on what Han said above.
Yakdriver Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) O.oo.oo.OO.O ?!!so if i wanna host a game, i have to buy a second licence.or i cannot play in my own game i am hosting.?account= licence...?! Edited February 21, 2015 by Yakdriver
ST_ami7b5 Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) ... so if i wanna host a game, i have to buy a second licence. or i cannot play in my own game i am hosting. ? account= licence...?! Yes, it's like this in RoF and I'm affraid the same will apply to BoS The difference (as already mentioned) is you can get a free-to-play version of RoF. Not so for BoS (ATM). Edited February 21, 2015 by ST_ami7b5
Yakdriver Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) my current thoughts would warrant a permaban for life.so where can i purchase the Dserver software then and for what kind of money?do i need a premium edition or is standard enough...? such information is very much needed.you cannot just say "i give you the program" and not tell me i have to pay up. so by the way... if the Dserver.exe costs money, how much does the FMB.exe cost? Bloody Fookin Ell.clarify."please"you cheeseckake loving bunnies... Edited February 21, 2015 by Yakdriver
No601_Swallow Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I think we should probably avoid jumping to conclusions. I can envisage all sorts of pricing structures, ranging from nothing at all to "another copy of the game", via cheap Russian accounts, etc, etc. The dust will settle. In any case, squadrons, for example, could, I suppose share an extra account, unless they wanted to run two servers simultaneously. I wonder how things would work for mission builders to test their online missions?
Yakdriver Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) the thing is... anything higher than... say...zero point zero zero is completely unacceptable. not jumping to conclusions - just following the pattern.This is essential information! Edited February 21, 2015 by Yakdriver
1CGS Han Posted February 21, 2015 1CGS Posted February 21, 2015 I have a feeling there are several people with two accounts on this forum but whether we'll need two copies of the game to host and fly seems unclear. I sincerely hope not. No, you may run DServer and Game simultaneously from one game copy. But yes they need separate accounts. 2
No601_Swallow Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Cancel the Apocalypse! I repeat: cancel the Apocalypse. The Apocalypse is no longer necessary - no Apocalypse today! Four horsemen - back to the stable please... Yakdriver, put down the sharp implement! Thanks for the clarification, Han! Edited February 21, 2015 by No601_Swallow
SYN_Ricky Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 No, you may run DServer and Game simultaneously from one game copy. But yes they need separate accounts. Thanks for the clarification Han!
ST_ami7b5 Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) How can I create a "separate account"? Isn't an account tied to a (ONE) purchased license of the game? Edited February 21, 2015 by ST_ami7b5
fergal69 Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) This sim just gets better. As if being shot at isn't enough, now have to worry about what altitude to fly at taking into account oxygen requirements! Is there anything that isn't going to be modelled, leaving the JU52 cockpit out of this for time being? Perhaps they might take on my suggestion of the canopy being jamed through bullet strike, etc. so you can't bail out, who knows. This is heading into the realms of real life, well as much as you can get in a sim, without actually losing your life. Edited February 21, 2015 by fergal69
Yakdriver Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 No, you may run DServer and Game simultaneously from one game copy. But yes they need separate accounts. Phew! man, you had me scared for a minute. So i gather, we will wait fro new information on how to create these separate account in the upcoming days. Thank you. Big scare. such "Aaaargh" much relief.
FS_Fenice_1965 Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Will it be possible to run two servers in the same machine even if with two licences or two separate accounts ?
BlackDevil Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) There is no free second account for the dserver at the moment. Hopefully they will think about a solution to this, as this account needs no planes. Before RoF got a free to play version, they did give away free accounts for the server admins. Edited February 21, 2015 by BlackDevil
Finkeren Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 There is no free second account for the dserver at the moment. Hopefully they will think about a solution to this, as this account needs no planes. Before RoF got a free to play version, they did give away free accounts for the server admins.AFAIK an 'account' simply means being registrered with a username here on the site. You don't need to own BoS to be here, and you'll likely be able to download and run the dserver app on a username that doesn't own BoS.
ST_ami7b5 Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) AFAIK an 'account' simply means being registrered with a username here on the site. You don't need to own BoS to be here, and you'll likely be able to download and run the dserver app on a username that doesn't own BoS. I don't think it is just a forum account. You will have to start a dserver and 'connect' to game using that (separate) account. Then you may start the game from the same installation and log-in as a player. That's how I understand it... But we should better wait for a clarification. The question is simple: will we have to buy another copy of BoS (even if we would not have to install it) to be able to start dserver under that "second account"? Edited February 21, 2015 by ST_ami7b5
FlatSpinMan Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I'd never thunked of these complications. Tricky stuff. See what they say, I guess.
kendo Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I don't think it is just a forum account. You will have to start a dserver and 'connect' to game using that (separate) account. Then you may start the game from the same installation and log-in as a player. That's how I understand it... But we should better wait for a clarification. The question is simple: will we have to buy another copy of BoS (even if we would not have to install it) to be able to start dserver under that "second account"? I think i have the answer as I have just registered a second account by going here: https://il2sturmovik.com/account/registration/ and completing the details. You need to use a secondary email address (and user name obviously) from what you have registered previously (as a message comes up telling you that one is already in use). Fill in the details then click the 'CREATE ACCOUNT' button at the bottom. They send a confirmation email to confirm and that seems to be all there is to it. A second registered account. I don't see any other possible interpretation of what Han has said. It really seems to be this simple. So no second copy needed. Edited February 21, 2015 by kendo 1
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