Tracer - visibility.

[Lensman]

Hello all.

 

Tonight, for the first time in many years, I fired up CLOD. Primarily because this forum had brought the Team-Fusion enhancements to my attention.

It's good, a great compliment to BOS, they live well together.

Anyway, I was really struck by how obvious, visible and useful the tracer is in CLOD and it got me wondering.

WHY can I barely see my tracer in BOS? Is this normal or have I got a local graphics problem?

The tracer in CLOD was so visible that I could keep firing, see the line of rounds and drop them onto my target via deflection. I can NEVER see my BOS tracer clearly enough to achieve that!

Can anyone who is familiar with both pieces of software (flying a Spitfire in CLOD) tell me if they see a huge difference in tracer visibility please?

It's entirely possible that BOS is the more correct of the two but I want to be sure. It sure as Hell was useful to see the tracer more clearly!

Edited October 28, 2014 by Lensman

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

I have an issue in CLOD trying to see tracers, in BOS I see them fine..

 

I think it has some thing to do with GAMA settings, darker in BOS I see them, in CLOD I don't see them until there all ready hitting the target.

[Finkeren]

I personally think that BoS comes closest to actual ww2 type tracers of all flight sims I've played.

 

Visibility might seem reduced simply because they are mostly seen against a background of bright white snow or clouds in BoS.

[Tektolnes]

In addition to what Finkeren wrote which is true it might be worth checking your graphics settings as well. If you're on ultra the SSAO grainy film might be making it harder to see things. I dropped down to balanced preset and BOS actually looks a lot better as SSAO is greatly reduced. You can see things more clearly and things look sharper in general. BOS might actually be the first game in history to look better at lower graphic settings.

[39bn_pavig]

Check your basic settings>gamma. You can change it in game without restarting from the escape menu. Experiment if lower gamma allows you to see tracers better. 

[Lensman]

Good advice everyone, thank you.

[Lensman]

also, almost all planes in BOS fire from engine cowling, meaning you get a lot of smoke in your head when you fire.

 

Clod's tracer from a 109 point of view are similar to the ones from BOS ( Bos fades faster), but spitfires, look like laser beams because your view is clear,

Good point!

[Jaws2002]

I like the Hurricane  in CLOD. I fly it with Red traces and you can easily walk them on target.

 

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[TG-55Panthercules]

Speaking of tracer colors - it's been a long time since I played IL-2/1946, but IIRC the two sides used different color tracers, which was really helpful when approaching a dogfight and trying to figure out who to help and who to attack.  When I was in BoS MP the other night either (a) everybody that was firing was on the same side, or (b) both sides were using the same color tracers.

 

Are there different color tracers per side in BoS? Should there be?

[ShamrockOneFive]

Speaking of tracer colors - it's been a long time since I played IL-2/1946, but IIRC the two sides used different color tracers, which was really helpful when approaching a dogfight and trying to figure out who to help and who to attack.  When I was in BoS MP the other night either (a) everybody that was firing was on the same side, or (b) both sides were using the same color tracers.

 

Are there different color tracers per side in BoS? Should there be?

 

There is a subtle difference between the German and Russian tracers but aside from that they haven't done tracer colours at all. No green, blue, etc... just off whites.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 In BoS the Russian planes and AAA have slightly purple tracers and Germans have yellowish. I really do not care about them, just shoot close enough and you do not miss

[Lensman]

S!

 

 In BoS the Russian planes and AAA have slightly purple tracers and Germans have yellowish. I really do not care about them, just shoot close enough and you do not miss

I'll remember that when yet another bf-109 is gently strolling away from my Yak-1.

[APIKalimba]

Hello all.

 

Tonight, for the first time in many years, I fired up CLOD. Primarily because this forum had brought the Team-Fusion enhancements to my attention.

It's good, a great compliment to BOS, they live well together.

Anyway, I was really struck by how obvious, visible and useful the tracer is in CLOD and it got me wondering.

WHY can I barely see my tracer in BOS? Is this normal or have I got a local graphics problem?

The tracer in CLOD was so visible that I could keep firing, see the line of rounds and drop them onto my target via deflection. I can NEVER see my BOS tracer clearly enough to achieve that!

Can anyone who is familiar with both pieces of software (flying a Spitfire in CLOD) tell me if they see a huge difference in tracer visibility please?

It's entirely possible that BOS is the more correct of the two but I want to be sure. It sure as Hell was useful to see the tracer more clearly!

But it does not mean that Clod is more realistic than Bos in that matter... Actually, the laser beam look of Clod's tracers has been the source of many controversial debates since its release....

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Remember also that in many games the effects are done after how a camera sees them, not how the human eye does. Quite a difference there, also with tracers.

[Y-29.Silky]

Are there different color tracers per side in BoS? Should there be?

Yes, Russians are red, Germans are yellow. I can't say if they should be the same or different as I've never seen one shot in real life besides out of a rifle.

 

But I do know this, I think they're fine now, but if they over do it, I'm going to be pissed because too many tracers is counter productive.

[Heliocon]

I hated CLOD tracers with a passion, they were messed up because they were basically textures that just flew through the air. Remember the length is determined by speed and viewing angle, none of these mattered much in CLOD.

[choctaw111]

Hello all.

 

Tonight, for the first time in many years, I fired up CLOD. Primarily because this forum had brought the Team-Fusion enhancements to my attention.

It's good, a great compliment to BOS, they live well together.

Anyway, I was really struck by how obvious, visible and useful the tracer is in CLOD and it got me wondering.

WHY can I barely see my tracer in BOS? Is this normal or have I got a local graphics problem?

The tracer in CLOD was so visible that I could keep firing, see the line of rounds and drop them onto my target via deflection. I can NEVER see my BOS tracer clearly enough to achieve that!

Can anyone who is familiar with both pieces of software (flying a Spitfire in CLOD) tell me if they see a huge difference in tracer visibility please?

It's entirely possible that BOS is the more correct of the two but I want to be sure. It sure as Hell was useful to see the tracer more clearly!

Cliffs of Dover has it right.  BoS is a big step backward in this department.

[6S.Insuber]

Hello all.

 

Tonight, for the first time in many years, I fired up CLOD. Primarily because this forum had brought the Team-Fusion enhancements to my attention.

It's good, a great compliment to BOS, they live well together.

Anyway, I was really struck by how obvious, visible and useful the tracer is in CLOD and it got me wondering.

WHY can I barely see my tracer in BOS? Is this normal or have I got a local graphics problem?

The tracer in CLOD was so visible that I could keep firing, see the line of rounds and drop them onto my target via deflection. I can NEVER see my BOS tracer clearly enough to achieve that!

Can anyone who is familiar with both pieces of software (flying a Spitfire in CLOD) tell me if they see a huge difference in tracer visibility please?

It's entirely possible that BOS is the more correct of the two but I want to be sure. It sure as Hell was useful to see the tracer more clearly!

Funny I did the same thing: flew the Spit in Clod last weekend, used tracers to land hits on a Bf with deflection and noticed that tracers in BoS are totally unusable instead.

 

Cheers!