6./ZG26_McKvack Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Just got an newsletter email from update 82 and they hinted that we might get a Ju 52 in the future. "Beside all that the recent dev blog offers you a compilation of Loft's posts where he tells about the development plans for nearest future of the single player campaign and gives a hint about Ju 52 that might be added to IL2BOS someday." Aww yisss!! 2
6./ZG26_McKvack Posted October 13, 2014 Author Posted October 13, 2014 Oh well we can have two party threads now
4H_V-man Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Unfortunately it says it may be added as AI. I would really like to see it added as a flyable. It was explained years ago in RoF that there would be no AI-only aircraft there because the only difference in AI and flyable aircraft was cockpit models. I'd prefer that BoS follow the example set by RoF in this area. 1
6./ZG26_McKvack Posted October 13, 2014 Author Posted October 13, 2014 Oh no just saw that too. My excitement went from over 9000 to 10
IIN8II Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Would love to see it flyable, but we really need it in the game either way so its a start.
Rjel Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 I think the no AI format might work in RoF. I don't see BoS ever being able to flesh out WWII air combat in any given theater and make every plane a flyable. If they'd start out life as AI then become flyable, I think we would have a much more immersive sim.
Albino Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Would love to see it flyable, but we really need it in the game either way so its a start. +1 It's exciting just to get another aircraft in the skies I'll take whatever I can get!
Y-29.Silky Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 I'm dying for the P-40. Especially after reading how Hermann Graf shot a few down over Stalingrad.
FuriousMeow Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) I think the no AI format might work in RoF. I don't see BoS ever being able to flesh out WWII air combat in any given theater and make every plane a flyable. If they'd start out life as AI then become flyable, I think we would have a much more immersive sim. The reason they started out as flyable in RoF was because it is more work to do AI first then make them flyable as the FM is the majority of the work. Remember, RoF did have a couple of AI only aircraft in the beginning that were then converted to flyable and that was more work to do. So if they have the ultimate goal of the Ju52 being flyable, they will make it so it is flyable which is what most of the workload is. So it won't start off as AI and then become flyable, it will either start off as flyable or just be AI. Edited October 14, 2014 by FuriousMeow
[KWN]T-oddball Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) the JU 52 would be critical if you wanted to make missions around The airlift December 1942, in which they were trying trying to bring in 300 tons of supplies a day to the 6th army group. Edited October 14, 2014 by T-oddball
Requiem Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Yeah it's good news that a Ju-52 may make it in especially given its importance. Doing AI planes is a step in the right direction because not all planes may be profitable for 1CGS, so by making AI only planes they get to flesh out the planeset quickly with the option of making it flyable down the road. Personally, if the choice came up between 1 flyable aircraft vs several AI only I'd choose the AI only option right now. AI only is better than nothing!
indiaciki Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 okay, give us the Po-2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1
simplyjames Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Ok, I have to ask... Why does everyone want this plane so badly? I'm not opposed to it or anything but it seems like people would want different planes first. Of course most of those are most likely not involved in the battle of Stalingrad. 1
indiaciki Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Because it's a legend. Because it was more important to the germans than the he-111 or even the ju 87. The Polikakrpov was equally important. If you think the ju.87 was terror... The Po-2 was twice as much. I bet both of them had more sorties than most of the fighters in Stalingrad. They were very important. They deserve to be included... we owe them. Edited October 14, 2014 by indiaciki
ShamrockOneFive Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Ok, I have to ask... Why does everyone want this plane so badly? I'm not opposed to it or anything but it seems like people would want different planes first. Of course most of those are most likely not involved in the battle of Stalingrad. Which plane? The Po-2 in the post above yours or the Ju-52? The Ju-52 is highly wanted by many (myself included) because its such a critical piece to the Stalingrad battle. The airlift was the means to keep the German army trapped at Stalingrad supplied... or so Goring promised Hitler. The reality wasn't quite there and the losses to the German transport fleet at Stalingrad was crippling. So a Ju-52...as an AI only or a flyable or whatever... is critical IMHO.
[KWN]T-oddball Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Ok, I have to ask... Why does everyone want this plane so badly? I'm not opposed to it or anything but it seems like people would want different planes first. Of course most of those are most likely not involved in the battle of Stalingrad. grab yourself a cup of coffee before you sit down to read the list I want ALL of them but i have to be realistic and choose accordingly, the JU 52 was as important as the C47 and was critical at the battle of Stalingrad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_World_War_II 1
indiaciki Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 it's not different planes... think about the battle of britain without having the hurricane...just because the spit was cool...
Cybermat47 Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 okay, give us the Po-2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love the Po-2. Especially if 'Night Witches' skins were made
Elbows Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Threads like this reveal the true flight-sim nature of the BoS community...not solely aimed at just combat simming. I understand from some of the early stuff that BoS was aimed at being a combat sim ---- and explicitly not a true flight training flight sim. But the demand for non-combat aircraft is encouraging and shows how much the community here is excited about actual flight, not just building kills and unlocking ranks and other silliness. My buddy and I frequently log into BoS and spend 2 hours just attempting to master taking off and landing with a bit of land-nav, etc. I agree that a lot of this community would enjoy the challenge of conducting an airbridge in Ju-52's. This reveals how enthusiastic players are simply about flying in this game. I think the majority would tire quite quickly of simple dogfighting matches. An excellent online scenario would be German fighters escorting a wave of Ju-52s attempting to land at a forward airfield while Russians try to intercept them. An ability to drop parachute troops would be even more fantastic. Personally I'd love to see a couple non-combatant style aircraft. I just hope that the scenarios people host eventually reflect historical style events rather than hurling forces at each other in an endless dogfight. 6
Feathered_IV Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Very much hoping for a Storch too. Especially a Red Cross version for flying out stretcher cases under the noses of the reds. I'm so tired of there being only two trades in online games. No wonder there is such a tiny customer base. We need well though out gameplay for transports, recon, artillery observation, medical evacuation and communications flights. BoS needs to attract all sorts, not just two. 2
79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Unfortunately it says it may be added as AI. Even as an AI, it is a waste improvement over not having it there. I can imagine a few hairy missions trying to escort them into a hot landing zone in Stalingrad, or trying to stop them against stiff opposition! Ideally I'd like to pilot them myself of course. Imagine trying to put a heavily laden "Tin goose" down in an improvised runway under fire! Edited October 14, 2014 by 79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer
Mags Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Threads like this reveal the true flight-sim nature of the BoS community...not solely aimed at just combat simming. I understand from some of the early stuff that BoS was aimed at being a combat sim ---- and explicitly not a true flight training flight sim. But the demand for non-combat aircraft is encouraging and shows how much the community here is excited about actual flight, not just building kills and unlocking ranks and other silliness. My buddy and I frequently log into BoS and spend 2 hours just attempting to master taking off and landing with a bit of land-nav, etc. I agree that a lot of this community would enjoy the challenge of conducting an airbridge in Ju-52's. This reveals how enthusiastic players are simply about flying in this game. I think the majority would tire quite quickly of simple dogfighting matches. An excellent online scenario would be German fighters escorting a wave of Ju-52s attempting to land at a forward airfield while Russians try to intercept them. An ability to drop parachute troops would be even more fantastic. Personally I'd love to see a couple non-combatant style aircraft. I just hope that the scenarios people host eventually reflect historical style events rather than hurling forces at each other in an endless dogfight. Good post!I feel the same. Edited October 14, 2014 by Mags
WIS-Redcoat Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 I want it flyable and will happily pay to get it. 1
=69.GIAP=Shvak Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 They are going to need to expand the flyable planes pretty soon after release. Starting with obvious no-shows like the Me110. My hope is the team that designed the plane skins and other models are hard at work as we speak working on a whole set of new planes to be added into the game. That and a autumn or summer map. Lets not also forget fleshing out the ground targets... But they are most likely all busy working on the Russian Military Historical Society flightsim ILya Muromets. So Like RoF, BoS may already be paying a price. But if you are negative theses days on this forum you get lynched.
BraveSirRobin Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 But they are most likely all busy working on the Russian Military Historical Society flightsim ILya Muromets. So Like RoF, BoS may already be paying a price. But if you are negative theses days on this forum you get lynched. There is only 1 new aircraft introduced for that game, and the model is already completed.
=69.GIAP=Shvak Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) There is only 1 new aircraft introduced for that game, and the model is already completed.Long before Clod was dead we also saw development work on BoS. The I16 was definitely being worked on. The 110 is iconic and logically a contender for post release DLC Its like Rome 2, they started flooding the market with DLC content almost as soon as the game hit the shelf. Neither 777 or 1c are stupid, the money is in plane sales. If anything has proved that RoF has. Don't get me wrong not knocking a sound business model. and yes I would but most if not all DLC content. Edited October 14, 2014 by =69.GIAP=Shvak
BraveSirRobin Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 If anything has proved that RoF has. Actually, Jason has said that the RoF business model does not work. That's why they're going in a different direction with BoS. It looks like they're going to sell modules built around a map and a few new aircraft.
=69.GIAP=Shvak Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Actually, Jason has said that the RoF business model does not work. That's why they're going in a different direction with BoS. It looks like they're going to sell modules built around a map and a few new aircraft.Could be but there is no way someone will fork out $100 for a new map and a handful of planes. It will be interesting when we do finally see whatever model they choose. some people will be happy others not. Fun times.
Y-29.Silky Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Very much hoping for a Storch too. Especially a Red Cross version for flying out stretcher cases under the noses of the reds. I'm so tired of there being only two trades in online games. No wonder there is such a tiny customer base. We need well though out gameplay for transports, recon, artillery observation, medical evacuation and communications flights. BoS needs to attract all sorts, not just two. This. I wish there were more roles other than fighting/bombing. Recon would actually be a really fun concept in multiplayer.. I can see myself flying around in a Storch/Po-2, spotting enemy positions for my team.
migmadmarine Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 This. I wish there were more roles other than fighting/bombing. Recon would actually be a really fun concept in multiplayer.. I can see myself flying around in a Storch/Po-2, spotting enemy positions for my team. I would absolutely love to do that, part of why I would love a Korean setting one day, be able to fly a grasshopper or bird dog spotting targets for F-80s...
Feathered_IV Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 That would be an interesting MP concept. Ground targets that only become visible once a spotter over-flys them.
1./KG4_Blackwolf Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Love the title... confirmed.. someday...... Two weeks maybe?
Trooper117 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 haha!... 'CONFIRMED'... (but 'might' be added someday)
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