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III./JG51 emblem added

 

Corrected 7./JG54 (Late 1944) per discussion on Luftwaffe Experten Message Board. (This emblem is still under construction).

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I am not sure if I wasted my time, but here are some bomber squadron emblems that have not been added yet:

I/KG 51

1-KG51_zpsf437a514.jpg

 

7/KG51

7-KG51_zpseacb3fa3.jpg

6/KG2

6KG2-1_zps738bddcb.jpg

7/KG3

7kg3-1_zps1e77c61b.jpg

1/KG6

KG6-1_zps0b56d96a.jpg

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No you didn't waste your time. I have been gathering photos of these. I have 90% of the ones you just posted. I have two of the four KG3 playing card emblems made already. Keep in mind I am also doing this in my spare time. Today I plan on doing a few so keep a look out.

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No Problem the KG 51 ones I did in a bit of a fast job myself.

Still have not found out for which group the red frame is but white is definately 1/KG51 and black is 7/KG51

just took a bit of digging in my books about KG 51.

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II./KG53 emblem added

 

III.KG53 early and late emblem added

 

7./KG53 emblem added

 

?./KG63 "Ace of Diamonds" emblem added

 

 

Various corrections, color adjustments and new variants added - check all pages for details.

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II.(Sch)/LG2 used Hs123 from 1939 to june 1940, then Bf109E from july 1940 to january 1942

 

Stab II.(Sch)/LG2

post-1464-0-04017700-1384100679_thumb.jpgpost-1464-0-18941700-1384100699_thumb.jpg

 

4.(Sch)/LG2

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5.(Sch)/LG2

post-1464-0-24958800-1384100747_thumb.jpgpost-1464-0-39242600-1384100803_thumb.jpg

 

6.(Sch)/LG2

post-1464-0-22856800-1384100766_thumb.jpgpost-1464-0-79111800-1384100789_thumb.jpg

 

10.(Sch)/LG2 (used only Hs123 with Inf.St.Abz.)

post-1464-0-82172400-1384101049_thumb.jpgpost-1464-0-37639000-1384101062_thumb.jpgpost-1464-0-22039900-1384101077_thumb.jpg

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Looks like I found a referance for a red frame of a KG 51 shield:

junkers88blog_zps085c6551.jpg

as it is too dark for a white frame, but to light for a black frame, of coarse it could be also a yellow which I have seen as modern art work, but I have not seen any original pictures

that could confirm that.

 

Here a picture of a very early I/KG 51 shield

GILZDO17_zps9e29577a.jpg

 

Another odd thing are pictures like this with numbers up front, one finds them every now and then, do you or CS Thor know

what they are for?

kg51part3_zpsbe45f65f.jpg

 

Here is also a interesting picture where the unit emblem is added to the tail above the kill marks:

junkers-ju-88-bomber-01_zpsae50ef0d.png

 

Here a view we should have very often during the winter part of Stalingrad:

Junkers_Ju88_KG51_EDELWEISS_zpscce5fdcc.

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Three more additions:

1. Staffel   Küstenflieger-Gruppe 506   1./ Kü.Fl.Gr.506   IX. Flieger-Korps

1StaffelKuumlstenflieger-Gruppe5061Kuuml

 

Wetter-Aufklärer   Westa 1 / Luftflotte 1   Ostseeraum   Wappen (Wetterfrosch und Jesauschild)   Schriftzug "Wolkenjäger"

Wetter-AufklaumlrerWesta1Luftflotte1Osts

 

KGrHqZHJCYFHR8SuZkmBR5PNpdg60_12_zpsed17

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Your KG3 emblem should be round and not shield shaped:

ju88blog_zpsd801516d.jpg

 

The KG 51 emblems where in use till the end of the war, also the middle should not be a yellow smudge

but 5 to 6 yellow balls see these examples:

kg51part6_zps00bd26c7.jpg

Scan10031_zps0af2aa60.jpg

in comparison early KG51 emblems are more angler and pointy on the bottom like this:

Aufkl_rer-43.jpg

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Looks like 4.(Sch)/LG2 needs to use his insurance card.

 

 

Lord Haw-Haw its' interesting that you posted 1. Staffel   Küstenflieger-Gruppe 506   1./ Kü.Fl.Gr.506   IX. Flieger-Korps. I designed an original emblem similar to that and someone said it would never be used as a Luftwaffe emblem.

 

As far as the KG3 chirping bird emblem I used a shield because I used squadron concept art see the attachments. I will make the corrections later :biggrin:

 

 

 

My original design I spoke of:

 

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And KG3 concept art:

 

post-12904-0-62989300-1384127428_thumb.jpg

 

 

 

 

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Yes I know the temptation of following art work is there, as you usually will find more, than of original photos of the emblems on the aircraft.

But as you see when it comes to squadron emblems there is nothing standardised.

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Yes I know the temptation of following art work is there, as you usually will find more, than of original photos of the emblems on the aircraft.

But as you see when it comes to squadron emblems there is nothing standardised.

 

 

Corrected III./KG3, hey what do you think of the stacked playing cards on a shield was that ever used. It's the other one from the concept art page.

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Corrected III./KG3, hey what do you think of the stacked playing cards on a shield was that ever used. It's the other one from the concept art page.

Well I have not seen it yet on an aircraft so I am not certain, but I would not go so far as to say not likely,

as when you look at this picture, you have I/KG51, II/KG 51 and III/KG51 united on one aircraft (These are old pre war emblems, as with the beginning of WWII only the Edelweiss version was then in use):

Ju88_KG51_xxAA_He111inback_2_zps13562ddd

 

To be on the safe side I would just add a question mark, until maybe something turns up to confirm it?

 

Didi you see the /KG63 "Ace of Diamonds" which is differant from the other KG63 emblems as it uses a shield shape?

Foto__JU_88_mit_Staffelwappen_zpsd5e42fe

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 Am 8. Juni 1942 zur II. Gruppe des Kampfgeschwaders 26 umgewandelt

Which means as of June 1942  Kü.Fl.Gr.506 was changed to II/KG 26

This is how the emblem looked like in color:

1kuflgr506.jpg

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Here are some emblems of reconaissance units should we get a FW 189, Ju 88 or a FW 200

Aufklärungs-Gruppe 122

1AufklGr122-1.jpg2AufklGr122-1.jpg3AufklGr122-1.jpg

 

          Staffel 1                                                                Staffel 2                                                      Staffel 3

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I have one that I believe is on an Hs-123 of a cartoon Luftwaffe officer peering through a telescope. I will post it later on today when I get home. The Fw-200 Condor would be a bomber I'd buy in the store for sure. The units who flew them were considered the 'elite' of bomber crews. I bet that plane would be $25.00 USD in the store but worth it.

 

 

 

===update===

 

 

Here it is:

 

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?./KG63 emblem added "Ace of Diamonds" alternate?

 

Could actually be:  Stab/FAGr. 4, Early?

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Looks good! Up to now have only found one picture of this version

and none yet of the playing card example. But who knows what might pop

up yet?

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Stab./KG6 emblem added

 

I./KG2 emblem added

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Here a picture with the emblem from 1/KG 40

6903810821_328c6d7127_z.jpg

 

6 Seenot-Staffel

96seen.gif

Disbanded 1944

 

This aircraft belongs to III/LG1

KGrHqZHJCYFHR8SuZkmBR5PNpdg60_12_zpsed170-emblem-III(K).LG1-0A.jpg

 

spaceout.gifII/ JG 20

2jg20-1.jpg

III/JG 20

3jg20-1.jpg

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Nahaufklärungsstaffel 1.(H)/11

1H11.jpg

Aufklärungsgruppe 14 4(F)/ 14

4AufklGr14-1.jpg

You where right found some German material:

2. / Aufklärungsgruppe 22

2AufklGr22-1.jpg
2AufklGr22-2.jpg

3/Aufklärungsgruppe 22

3AufklGr22-1.jpg

Nahaufklärungsgruppe 4

nagr4-1.JPG

 

Nahaufklärungsgruppe 12

2NAGr12-1.jpg

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  • Corrected III./KG53

 

  • Corrected I./KG51

 

  • Corrected 7./KG51

 

The KG 51 emblems look good now! :good:  But I would put with the red framed one  ?/KG51 and not 7/KG51 like the black framed one

which definately is 7/KG51.

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Do you guys think I should get rid of the allied emblems and just focus on Russian, Romanian, Hungarian, German emblems?

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Well sooner or later they will be hopefully needed, so I wouldn´t get rid of them, but no one knows when they might be needed.

At least for BoS and the next extension Kuban or maybe Med. not that likely?

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I'm hoping for the Med (Sicily, North Africa, Libya). I hope this game gets as big as IL-2 1946. I've been playing that game to get used to flying in a non-arcade environment like War Thunder. I'm actually making a skin for that game for a Fw-190A-8 for Sturm.1/JG4 W+14.

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I've been working on the cartoon playing card motifs for JG53. I have six photos of them. I'll be releasing them soon. So hopefully in the future if they release a Bf-109G-6 you guys can use them for skins.

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EMBLEMS WILL BE RELEASED TOMORROW AT 02:00 (-8GMT) 19NOV2013


:salute:


Eisen oder Holz



As a piloten of Erg./JG54 I salute you all, see you in the sky.

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EMBLEMS WILL BE RELEASED TOMORROW AT 02:00 (-8GMT) 19NOV2013

 

:salute:

 

"EISEN ODER HÖLZ"

 

 

As a piloten of Erg./JG54 I salute you all, see you in the sky.

 

Hmm I am asuming you wanted to write "Eisen oder Holz"? There is no word Hölz

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Dear  Adler Kunst Team.

Are you planing to add the 15(Span.)/JG51 "Escuadrillas Azules" emblems?

 

Pictures and emblem of the 1st Escuadrilla:

50_zps96aa987b.jpg

 

67_zpsa7ac9c4f.jpg

 

And a variant without the roundel.

81_zps86b910cd.jpg

 

Emblema1ordmEAbiscopy_zpsbd53aea8.png

 

Pictures of 2nd. Escuadrilla:

34_zpsa02485d1.jpg

 

40_zps7d761366.jpg

 

62_zpsb39c1f77.jpg

 

Emblema2ordmbisEA_zpsc420286c.jpg

 

 

 

there were five squadrons but only the first two took their emblems on the plane

 

Tx.

Costa.

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Yes I sure am! THANK YOU for the really great close ups! I have been searching everywhere for 'good' images. I will get to work this weekend Costa!

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