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i know some assembler and i understand how computers work and i realize you can make a thinking machine but it wont exist beyond inert info, theres none inside to percieve those thoughts

 

so was descartes a terminator paving the way?

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you exist before you think

but that "i" can only exist interms of thinking 

becasue unless you have others you have no reference to know who you are 

but there's existence before "I" the concept that humans are holding on

i do this , i got this job , i'm good at this , i have this and not so on

according tothat everyone has their own idea of who they are in their mind with thinking 

but that thinking requires background also to aknowledge itself

just like you can't have figure without background

you can't see the colors if other colors are not there(we can't percieve what black is unless we see white also so as other colors)

if you have a deep interest in this kind of subject chck alan watts on youtube

 

and in terms of AI 

i think humans are making same mistake 

they think they are so sepcial among anything else when infact they are just as anything else

thoughts are electrical process in the brain

and if you really look closely what thought is made out of 

it's basically self reflecting system 

mirror upon mirrors

so self thinking AI is abosolutely possible 

IBM just made prototype of quantum computer 

which doeesn't process like ordinary computer(which can only caculate in linear terms with 1 and 0's)

if scientist can somehow make self procedure function 

the equation generates it by itself (just like how nomans sky works)

with quantum computing with existing data(google and social media data)

that they can surely mimic the human's thinking process

in that perspective

humans are basically advanced AI 

or AI's are primary creatures

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Vig said:

Critique of Pure Reason.

try reason out the "reason" itself 

you'll see what western society calls reasons and logis are made out of another reasoning and logics 

so there's none actually

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Kant's "Critique of Pure Reason" was his attempt to reconcile Descarte's rationalism and Hume's empiricism.  If you are interested in modern theories of knowledge, that is the place to start.

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On 11/22/2021 at 2:08 PM, raaaid said:

i know some assembler and i understand how computers work and i realize you can make a thinking machine but it wont exist beyond inert info, theres none inside to percieve those thoughts

 

so was descartes a terminator paving the way?

 

On 11/24/2021 at 8:35 PM, NoelGallagher said:

you exist before you think

but that "i" can only exist interms of thinking 

becasue unless you have others you have no reference to know who you are 

but there's existence before "I" the concept that humans are holding on

i do this , i got this job , i'm good at this , i have this and not so on

according tothat everyone has their own idea of who they are in their mind with thinking 

but that thinking requires background also to aknowledge itself

just like you can't have figure without background

you can't see the colors if other colors are not there(we can't percieve what black is unless we see white also so as other colors)

if you have a deep interest in this kind of subject chck alan watts on youtube

 

and in terms of AI 

i think humans are making same mistake 

they think they are so sepcial among anything else when infact they are just as anything else

thoughts are electrical process in the brain

and if you really look closely what thought is made out of 

it's basically self reflecting system 

mirror upon mirrors

so self thinking AI is abosolutely possible 

IBM just made prototype of quantum computer 

which doeesn't process like ordinary computer(which can only caculate in linear terms with 1 and 0's)

if scientist can somehow make self procedure function 

the equation generates it by itself (just like how nomans sky works)

with quantum computing with existing data(google and social media data)

that they can surely mimic the human's thinking process

in that perspective

humans are basically advanced AI 

or AI's are primary creatures

 

 

 

You two are the same person.

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