Redwo1f 371 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 EAW is now available if anyone is interested: Ā https://www.gog.com/game/european_air_war Ā Nice to see this classic finally arrive there!Ā š 3 Link to post Share on other sites
raaaid 850 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 where you have been happy better to never return 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Amiral_Crapaud 389 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Yes, lovely days these were...! Link to post Share on other sites
danielprates 581 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) It is an eyesore compared to what we know today, and the realism of... well, everyrthing, has improved greatly. Still...Ā it was wonderful for the day (IĀ still hum the main menu song now and then). Hundreds of planes, really long missions due to a huge seamless european map, a colossal realism improvement after earlier sims (aces over europe was just a few years older, right? 1942 tpaw wasnt much older too). Ā This one left a mark. Honestly if it had heavies I would be revisiting it again today. Edited February 21 by danielprates Link to post Share on other sites
Redwo1f 371 Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 30 minutes ago, danielprates said: Ā Ā This one left a mark. Honestly if it had heavies I would be revisiting it again today. Ā You might want to look here š: Ā https://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4502725/uaw160-2020-downloads#Post4502725 Ā -- massive amounts of add-ons/aircraft/theaters, etc - and yes, the bombers are there. (simhq is the place to peruse for EAW items if you are interested) Ā Link to post Share on other sites
Kapteeni 20 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Omg! My Second Combat Flight sim after Rowans Flying circus! Ā Link to post Share on other sites
danielprates 581 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/21/2021 at 6:22 PM, Redwo1f said: Ā You might want to look here š: Ā https://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4502725/uaw160-2020-downloads#Post4502725 Ā -- massive amounts of add-ons/aircraft/theaters, etc - and yes, the bombers are there. (simhq is the place to peruse for EAW items if you are interested) Ā Ā Interesting! Thanks.Ā I took a look.Ā Ā Many pics but surprisingly little in the cockpits. Link to post Share on other sites
Aurora_Stealth 222 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Ha wow!Ā what a throwback! such nostalgiaĀ šĀ I think European Air WarĀ was my second flight sim after Flying Corps... Ā One thing I really liked about EAW wasĀ the backdropsĀ in between missions... really added to the atmosphere;Ā seeing inside the officers huts, being under the camo netsĀ before the briefings and peering into the hangars... watching the cigarette burn slowly from the ashtray in the foreground, or the fan on the table blow around while you heard aircraft pass by in the distance... and the echo and sound of ground crew and tools. Ā That made it feelĀ like something special, especially considering for a game from 1998! Ā Nice to see itĀ living on... even thoughĀ surpassed. Ā Link to post Share on other sites
danielprates 581 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 11 hours ago, Aurora_Stealth said: Ha wow!Ā what a throwback! such nostalgiaĀ šĀ I think European Air WarĀ was my second flight sim after Flying Corps... Ā One thing I really liked about EAW wasĀ the backdropsĀ in between missions... really added to the atmosphere;Ā seeing inside the officers huts, being under the camo netsĀ before the briefings and peering into the hangars... watching the cigarette burn slowly from the ashtray in the foreground, or the fan on the table blow around while you heard aircraft pass by in the distance... and the echo and sound of ground crew and tools. Ā That made it feelĀ like something special, especially considering for a game from 1998! Ā Nice to see itĀ living on... even thoughĀ surpassed. Ā Ā Yeah me too. It seems little by today's standards, but back then it really brought immersion and ambiance.Ā 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gambit21 5700 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 4 hours ago, danielprates said: Ā Yeah me too. It seems little by today's standards, but back then it really brought immersion and ambiance.Ā Ā By today's standards it still possesses superior immersion. Flight model, graphics, ballistics, damage model...no of course it can't compare. User interface, immersion however? Fantastic...nothing else has come close. Ā Ā 2 Link to post Share on other sites
danielprates 581 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) 23 hours ago, Gambit21 said: Ā By today's standards it still possesses superior immersion. Flight model, graphics, ballistics, damage model...no of course it can't compare. User interface, immersion however? Fantastic...nothing else has come close. Ā Ā Ā In fact one of my first memories of the original il-2 is that it had only thatĀ faux-vintage intro video followed byĀ nothing but the bland menu emulating aviation lights and switches. I remember thinking "what, is that all?". EAW got me used to something better. Ā Then of course I saw the actual sim and forgot all about that. Hehe Edited February 26 by danielprates Link to post Share on other sites
Gambit21 5700 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 5 minutes ago, danielprates said: Ā In fact one of my first memories of the original il-2 is that it had only thatĀ faux-vintage intro video followed byĀ nothing but the bland menu emulating aviation lights and switches. I remember thinking "what, is that all?". EAW got me used to something better. Ā Then of course I saw the actual sim and forgot all about that. Hehe Ā I had a similar experience. You can't expect a Russian developer to be in touch with, or care about implementing that "Americana" sort of 1940's feel...but EAW sure hit it out of the park in that department. However even with regard to the Russian experience, (which is how the old IL2 started) immersing the player into the war environment etc just wasn't there in any shape or form. The trend has been "here's what it's like to fly a WWII fighter"....what Oleg and LoftĀ missed wasĀ "here's what it's like to fly a WWII fighter IN WWII" Ā Jason get's it, but he's stuck with many of the legacy decisions that were made before he took over. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaOne 2045 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/12/2021 at 6:48 PM, Redwo1f said: EAW is now available if anyone is interested: Ā https://www.gog.com/game/european_air_war Ā Nice to see this classic finally arrive there!Ā š Ā I was flying Janes WWII Fighters, never got into EAW, but it certainly hadĀ a cult following at the time. Link to post Share on other sites
Gambit21 5700 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 9 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: Ā I was flying Janes WWII Fighters, never got into EAW, but it certainly hadĀ a cult following at the time. Ā Janes was like a sad little turd compared to EAW...lol. I played that thing for a total of 12 minutes, then uninstalled and went back to EAW. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CUJO_1970 1878 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 3 hours ago, Gambit21 said: Ā Janes was like a sad little turd compared to EAW...lol. I played that thing for a total of 12 minutes, then uninstalled and went back to EAW. Like hell it was. You missed out. Ā EAW was great, but so was Janes. Link to post Share on other sites
Feathered_IV 7186 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gambit21 said: what Oleg and LoftĀ missed wasĀ "here's what it's like to fly a WWII fighter IN WWII" Ā Jason get's it, but he's stuck with many of the legacy decisions that were made before he took over. Thatās the bit Iām always looking for. Ā I want a game to focus on the feeling of being a war flyer and less of an e-sport competitor. Ā Edited February 26 by Feathered_IV Link to post Share on other sites
Gambit21 5700 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said: Like hell it was. You missed out. Ā EAW was great, but so was Janes. Ā Nah - I tried it - hated it. Glad you liked the turd š©Ā š Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaOne 2045 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 11 hours ago, Gambit21 said: Ā Janes was like a sad little turd compared to EAW...lol. I played that thing for a total of 12 minutes, then uninstalled and went back to EAW. Ā Link to post Share on other sites
CUJO_1970 1878 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 8 hours ago, Gambit21 said: Ā Nah - I tried it - hated it. Glad you liked the turd š©Ā š Yeah - you tried it for all of 12Ā minutes. Ā I wasnāt particularly impressed with EAW for the first 12Ā minutesĀ Ā either - glad I stuck with it and didnāt draw the same wrong conclusion you did with Janes š Link to post Share on other sites
Gambit21 5700 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) 3 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said: Yeah - you tried it for all of 12Ā minutes. Ā I wasnāt particularly impressed with EAW for the first 12Ā minutesĀ Ā either - glad I stuck with it and didnāt draw the same wrong conclusion you did with Janes š Ā It was actually more than that, but listen itās your right to love a turd...donāt let me or anyone else tell you differently. Ā Horses for courses as they say Let your turdĀ flag fly brotha! Ā I jest of courseĀ Ā Ā Ā Edited February 26 by Gambit21 Link to post Share on other sites
Gambit21 5700 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/25/2021 at 10:06 PM, Feathered_IV said: Thatās the bit Iām always looking for. Ā I want a game to focus on the feeling of being a war flyer and less of an e-sport competitor. Ā Ā Yep Link to post Share on other sites
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