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Late war online MP is almost dead because of the ineffectiveness of the in game .50 cal s. 

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Diggun
40 minutes ago, Voodoo-BlackDog said:

Late war online MP is almost dead because of the ineffectiveness of the in game .50 cal s. 

what specious nonsense.

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QB.Creep
On 4/17/2021 at 12:28 PM, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

the .50 guys would spend sixteen pages explaining why the DM doesn't match the palm data.

If an easily repeatable test which shows that 1 round of HE HMG is equivalent to 80 rounds of AP HMG in terms of aerodynamic drag is "palm data", you might be a flat-earther.

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4 hours ago, Diggun said:

what specious nonsense.

It is true that it's not "dead", however, I know a couple people that have quit playing because their favorites are next to useless in air to air and few more that have greatly reduced their playing time for the same reason.   The frustration level gets real high when you hit with a couple dozen rounds of AP and nothing happens while the enemy only needs a single hit of any kind of HE including < 20mm and your plane is completely unfightable.

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Thad
On 4/26/2021 at 11:38 AM, Eisenfaustus said:

This is a simulation - no action game. So balancing doesn’t matter - historical accuracy does. That is why the discussion is centred around wether the current FM/DM are historical accurate and not wether they are balanced for MP. 

- historical accuracy does (OR SHOULD) matter the most.- :salute:

Perceptions are hard to overcome. Currently the games 50cal effectiveness is obviously perceived as weak and flawed. 😐

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BCI-Nazgul
11 minutes ago, Thad said:

- historical accuracy does (OR SHOULD) matter the most.- :salute:

Perceptions are hard to overcome. Currently the games 50cal effectiveness is obviously perceived as weak and flawed. 😐

It's more than "perception".  The average number of hits required and their immediate effects don't appear to track with history while the HE round effects also don't track with history.  This has been shown by a number of careful experiments and statistical studies by players under controlled conditions. Some of which took a lot of time and effort.  I'm not going to quote all the sources,  but there are PLENTY of them in this forum including one my friends and I did.  Unfortunately, only the devs have the tools to do conclusive tests on this.

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CountZero

Spit14 is finaly in game so there is no reason to complain any more. 

We even got mod on it that have only 20mm, and gets rid of .50 or .303 cals.

Its like having cooler P-51 in game with 20mm guns and without anti g-suit, and real ww2 larping pilots dont wear G pants they go comando vs axis.

 

problem of inferior allied airplanes is solved by introduction of more raf airplanes, long live the king

 

P.S.

petitions for collector Meteor F.3 should start asap to counter ar234 advantage incoming next year... or top reserchers should be on the case.

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