Reverb G2 Mod to increase FOV

[dburne 2461]

 

 

I may have to give this one a try.

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf 1377]

Yeah I have already ordered it as well, I'll check it out.

[PB0_Foxy 83]

It's probably a good idea.

Already saw this trick in a comparaison video between G1 and G2

 

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf 1377]

Just arrived. Will check tonight.

[30speed 607]

honestly it'll do little for getting the wider FOV, but it'll surely help with the nose gap so you can see a keyboard. The current G2 facepad is pretty annoying in that regard. 😄

[chiliwili69 838]

It is amazing that the second version of a well sold G1 is still needing some mods to get an extra FOV.

It is incredible that HP engineers left on the table a portion of the FOV.

HP is a large company with many resources. Do they know what is ergonomy?.

How a guy can find improvements in FOV vs. a ton of well paid engineers?

 

I wonder if other foam covers different from the Samsung Odyssey can be used as well? for example the covers for Quest or Quest2 or VivePro? Something more breathdable than PU.

[enyak 13]

A configurable way to setup the G2 would have been nice. If you reduce the distance between lenses and eyes the headset becomes incompatible for wearing many glasses though, so it's understandable they built in a safety margin.

[ACG_Mephisto 121]

22 hours ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

Yeah I have already ordered it as well, I'll check it out.

 

Where did you order in DE? Thanks. 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk 1255]

Ordered my HP G2 last week, today it arrived 🙂

[dburne 2461]

6 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

Ordered my HP G2 last week, today it arrived 🙂

 

 

Enjoy!

[PB0_Foxy 83]

That's pretty fast ! good for you 👌

Mine should arrived for december 23rd but at least I still have my Reverb G1while I wait for it

[unlikely_spider 287]

5 hours ago, enyak said:

A configurable way to setup the G2 would have been nice. If you reduce the distance between lenses and eyes the headset becomes incompatible for wearing many glasses though, so it's understandable they built in a safety margin.

To their credit, the existing face gasket just attaches via magnets and is a very simple design. I expect that they anticipated third parties to step in and provide alternatives. I'll likely get one whenever thinner gaskets become available.

[Hetzer-JG51 294]

I found an old android phone headset and took off its 'gasket'. As I found by just holding the headset to my face with the stock gasket off, it doesn't increase the horizontal FOV so much as it removes the obstructions down at 8 and 4 o'clock low. I don't feel it's worth the loss of comfort personally. Once I'm in action I don't consciously notice the added FOV but I do notice the reduction in comfort.

[Drum 28]

Any Oculus Rift CV-1 facial interface & foam replacement gasket set should work well on the Reverb as it's lens bucket is basically the same shape

and size.  I bought one for my CV-1 and looking at it here, my guess is that it should work perfectly.  They come with a separate rubber nose shroud as well.

Edited December 13, 2020 by Drum

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf 1377]

I tried it, and it does increase the FOV considerably.

 

However, I don't like that it's sweatier than the original one. The skin cannot breath as much in this one. 

It's also way more difficult to dial in to the sweetspot. But once there, the clarity is great.

[41Sqn_Skipper 200]

I'm considering to try the mod. However I fear that my head is not large enough. I have the horizontal straps almost in the smallest setting with the normal gasket. If I replace the gasket I fear I will not be able to tighten the strap enough so that the headset is very loose :(

 

I always thought I my head is on the bigger side, so I'm wondering if others have similar issues with this mod and if there's a good workaround (I'm thinking of adding some padding to the back of the strap).

 

[dburne 2461]

Still waiting on delivery of mine, plus I need to pick up some Velcro.

I will give it a try whenever it does get here. I think the holiday shopping has really slowed down package deliveries.

[Charlo-VR 174]

I tried a version of this mod with my just-arrived WidmoVR prescription lens adapters, but my eyelashes brush against those lenses.

[Toxin1 70]

On 12/14/2020 at 1:50 AM, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

I tried it, and it does increase the FOV considerably.

 

However, I don't like that it's sweatier than the original one. The skin cannot breath as much in this one. 

It's also way more difficult to dial in to the sweetspot. But once there, the clarity is great.

Agree. I used the velour VRCovers gasket I purchased for my CV1 and it works well similar to the G2 material for comfort and dryness.  Agree on the extra effort to dial in the sweetspot.  Also being closer to the lenses, I am able to discern the screen door just little now.

 

[chiliwili69 838]

There is also this more elegant solution (and expensive):

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4666466

Perhaps I will try.

[30speed 607]

11 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

There is also this more elegant solution (and expensive):

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4666466

Perhaps I will try.

 

thank you for finding this solution, @chiliwili69 !  

 

I was hoping someone would engineer a closer gasket and this is it!

 

in US I found a print service where it'll get built + shipping for a total of $20..  ( craftcloud3d.com )

 

I used to order parts from 3dhubs.com but they've implemented a minimum $60 order, which gets added to any work item below $60... very strange indeed..  anyway, I hope things are on the level in your country.

 

 

Edited December 18, 2020 by 69th_Didney_World

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf 1377]

This gasket looks really well. I'd just want the same cloth as the Index/ReverbG2 have as a cushion. And the one on the G2 is fixed to the original gasket, you can't just take it off. The noseflaps are also important imho.

Edited December 18, 2020 by SCG_Fenris_Wolf

[chiliwili69 838]

Here in my city it is about 60€ because the printing services said they will use a dust polyamide 12 industrial printer from HP.

In a filament printer it should be much cheaper but the geometry will be not reproduced exactly.

 

For the cushion I was thinking to use something like that:

 

https://www.amazon.es/Almohadillas-Ciclismo-Bicicleta-Universal-Repuesto/dp/B07288C7DL

https://www.amazon.es/Replacement-Universal-Specialized-Schwinn-HFK/dp/B004GBN916

https://www.amazon.es/Himetsuya-Almohadillas-Revestimiento-anticolisión-Motocicleta/dp/B08N4SG4GG/

 

or generic VR covers:

https://www.amazon.es/HEMOBLLO-Cubierta-Reemplazo-Paquete-Experiencia/dp/B07T886RQK/

https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B083YVLC98/

 

 

 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk 1255]

I'm gonna 3d print HP Reverb G2 remix "wide wings" based on face gasket v7 by jewcookie.

 

BTW HP have released the CAD designs of the headset, and the faceplate so soon there will be some third party products avaliable on the market.

Edited December 19, 2020 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[dburne 2461]

Still waiting on my VR Cover to get here...

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf 1377]

...I'm returning the VRCover, doesn't work well enough for me. I see the borders of the screen, it's 1-2mm too close. I just prefer the Index-style cloth of the original gasket.

[dburne 2461]

Still waiting for mine - tracking shows it still in Thailand...

[=VARP=Ribbon 1099]

On 12/18/2020 at 10:38 AM, chiliwili69 said:

There is also this more elegant solution (and expensive):

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4666466

Perhaps I will try.

Thnx for the link!

Even my G2 is somewhere in Germany traveling to Leipzig my friend already 3d printed that modded gasket to me 😃

Now i only need to find sponge for it!

[1PL-Husar-1Esk 1255]

3 minutes ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

Thnx for the link!

Even my G2 is somewhere in Germany traveling to Leipzig my friend already 3d printed that modded gasket to me 😃

Now i only need to find sponge for it!

I gonna use my gear VR cover, should work .

[=VARP=Ribbon 1099]

2 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

I gonna use my gear VR cover, should work .

Will try to find some good quality stiff sponge, if not i might order VR cover and glue it, but i need something breathable..….

[chiliwili69 838]

This is a video of Voodoo about this mod. I like his criticism to HP for not doing this from the begining as an accesory.

 

 

I just have printed the v9 (40€), Vive mask and magnets (4x3, and 4x7) and will try this afternoon, but there is a new v10.

 

 

[dburne 2461]

Still waiting for mine to arrive from Taiwan.

[Hetzer-JG51 294]

I'm not sure of the need for a whole printed gizmo, all I've done is taken one off a cheap android headset and rest it between headset and face (until I get around to velcroing it).

[E69_Qpassa_VR 204]

16 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

This is a video of Voodoo about this mod. I like his criticism to HP for not doing this from the begining as an accesory.

 

 

I just have printed the v9 (40€), Vive mask and magnets (4x3, and 4x7) and will try this afternoon, but there is a new v10.

 

 

Theres a spanish guys who prints it and send it for 15€, I dont have any vrcover though

[chiliwili69 838]

I have tried the 3D printed mod with the Vive foam. 

The mod is relatively simple once you get the 3Dprint, the magnets (4x4 N42 in my case), the velcro and the Vive foam (really cheap in amazon).

The only thing that require certain care is placing the magnets. I used a 4mm wood drill to refine the interior surface of the holes.

The 3D print is much less thin than the original, so it requires to be trated with more care.

 

Here some pictures:

 

 

 

 

 

After playing it for 15 minutes I resoved to remove some of the foam in the lateral sides of the vive gasket so my face rest better in the front and there is no pressure in the side.

 

 

I have been playing for an hour and comparing the original gasket with the mod.

 

My conclusions are:

 

- The mod adds just only a little bit more of FOV. Not comparable to the Index FOV with the maximun FOV.

- The comfort is close to the original, except texture of the cloth (better than this syntethic leather)

- Finding the right position for the eyes is as easy as the original

- It can be removed as easy as the original.

- Being closer to the lenses do not improve the sweetspot problem. The clarity is only in the center area, but not from edge to edge. (regardeless of the SS% applied)

 

Depending on the shape of the face and eyes, there could be people who can see a better increase of the FOV. In my case, with this mod I am at the maximum FOV that the G2 can deliver. I have tried to push my head more, compressing the foam, and I started to see the square edges of the lenses.

 

If you want to know what extra FOV this mod could give you it is easy to simulate it. You only need to push hard the headset against your face to compressed the foam. The FOV visual you get then is what you will achieve with this mod.

 

Is it worth? I really don´t know. If I would keep the G2 (instead of Index) I will probably use it instead of the original. But it is only a few degrees of FOV more, a very subtle improvement.

[Charlo-VR 174]

For those of us who wear glasses or install prescription lens adapters, I rather doubt this mod is an option. See in these photos how little space there is after I installed my WIDMOvr prescription lens adapters into my G2 headset - just some food for thought.

 

 

[Blitzen 852]

Sorry to ask but the video isn't working for me at present..so what's the name of this gizmo and can I order it ,maybe on Amazon? Thanks!

[E69_Qpassa_VR 204]

16 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

Sorry to ask but the video isn't working for me at present..so what's the name of this gizmo and can I order it ,maybe on Amazon? Thanks!

You need a 3d print to be done, there are many online companies that deliver them but it could be pricey.

 

Also you will need a face cushion and some velcro.

[Blitzen 852]

I'll make do for the present I guess.Christmas & New Years has taken its toll....

[dburne 2461]

OK finally got my VR Cover and picked up some Velcro and applied this VR Cover mod to my Reverb G2.

Very easy and quick to do no problem there at all. 

 

I am quite pleased. First let me say I am not the best judge of FOV as I am half blind and see nothing right of center when looking ahead.

But I can tell it has increased slightly. I can see this mainly in my left periphery.

Appears another benefit from getting the eyes closer to the lens is increased clarity of the image. That is what I am impressed with.

It is quite comfortable, however I suspect long gaming sessions especially at warmer times of the year might get a little sweaty with the PU Leather or whatever it is made of. 

I used it about an hour for my first session. Also nice that you get two of these with the VR Cover Kit, so at least I have a spare if the first one starts to get cruddy over time.

Also nice to now have a little peep hole around the bottom center to look at my keyboard if needed.

 

So yes I am glad I did this mod. Will see how it does in longer sessions and also when the climate gets warmer. Thankfully I have air conditioning constantly blowing on me so that helps. I don't see me going back to the original faceplate, but I made sure to put the Velcro where it would not interfere should I decide to put the original back on at some point.

So as far as I am concerned , I give this mod a big:

 

Edit: Oh and I will also mention, I don't see a really small sweet-spot in my Reverb G2 at al, even with the original faceplate.  It seems pretty good to me, but again this is only judging by what I see in periphery to my left.

 

Now, back to flying baby!

 

Edited January 2 by dburne