dotDeutschland 38 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) Everytime I play on the Rhineland Map I feel like somethings Missing, and the main thing to me is the Autobahn, which was like one of the Main Transportation ways and the Beating heart of 3rd Reich Logistics, Economy and Automotion and still is to this day in Modern Germany, and seeing all these Pity Little Dirty roads (Sometimes Cobble Stone Roads) on the maps just Ruins the Emersion and Feel for me, so I wanted to hear what you guys think about it ? Should it be Added ? They would Obviously Serve as Dominant land marks for Orientation and Navigation and way to move for Tanks and Ground units, and Key Autobahn Bridges would make Great Mission Targets. Spoiler A Map Showing the Already Existing Route (Thick Black like) and Planed Routes (Thin Black Lines) Map from 1940 Spoiler We All know that Scene from Band of Brothers 😉https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/reichs.cfm I hope to hear your Thoughts and Opinions about it! If you have any other Sources like Map or Pictures just post them, ill be more than happy to take a Look at them! Edited October 9, 2020 by [N.O.G.F]dotDeutschland 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
vonGraf 99 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) Yes, of course. But the map is finished I've heard. For me personally the worst surprise was to see that my hometown Duisburg has no harbor and the size it had in medieval. I'm too afraid to have a look at Rotter- or Amsterdam... Edited October 9, 2020 by vonGraf Link to post Share on other sites
dotDeutschland 38 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, vonGraf said: For me personnally the worst surprise was to see that my hometown Duisburg has no harbor and the size it had in medieval. I feel you on that one, my home town isn't even on the map, it's right below gymnich and to the right of Kerpen to the south west of cologne, even tho it existed during ww2, and even has a massive castle in it Link to post Share on other sites
Lemsip 701 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 hours ago, [N.O.G.F]dotDeutschland said: If you have any other Sources like Map or Pictures just post them, ill be more than happy to take a Look at them! Check this out if you haven't already, https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/65384-autobahn-rijksweg-–-adding-the-most-modern-road-design-to-the-rheinland-map/ Link to post Share on other sites
blue_max 171 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I wish they'd open up the maps a bit more to modders... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
norsetto 37 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Yes, the Bodenplatte map is a shame. Lets forget it and move on though, hopefully it will be useful as a "lesson learned" and will benefit future work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie_Mental 404 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 How about some Me262 sorties flown from stretches of Autobahn? Link to post Share on other sites
dotDeutschland 38 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Lemsip said: Check this out if you haven't already, https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/65384-autobahn-rijksweg-–-adding-the-most-modern-road-design-to-the-rheinland-map/ Yea I already saw that one and tried it, looks spot on, I just wish something like that would make it into the official version. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JG7_X-Man 555 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) I think the entire map need editing - more relevant rivers, roads and correct elevation. A U.S Soldier passes by an abandoned Me 262 A-1a/Jabo (Wk.Nr. 170312) of I./Kampfgeschwader 51 resting near the Frankfurt Autobahn. 1945. Edited February 6 by JG7_X-Man 3 Link to post Share on other sites
vonGraf 99 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, JG7_X-Man said: I think the entire map need editing - more relevant rivers, roads and correct elevation. A U.S Soldier passes by an abandoned Me 262 A-1a/Jabo (Wk.Nr. 170312) of I./Kampfgeschwader 51 resting near the Frankfurt Autobahn. 1945. Wow look at the size of those 30 mm shells! Maybe not on the Autobahn and not a 262 but these shells look nice too. Edited October 10, 2020 by vonGraf Link to post Share on other sites
Quax 229 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 1:40 PM, norsetto said: Yes, the Bodenplatte map is a shame. Lets forget it and move on though, hopefully it will be useful as a "lesson learned" and will benefit future work. I don´t think so. Many towns, that I know well, are much better, than i had expected. The problem is, that it is impossible for a few devs to fill such a big map as it was. From the castles at the Rhine to the Autobahns. The only way to make it better would be, if modders could create those additional content. How many more copies would have been sold, if the Autobahns were included ? I guess zero, to be honest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Feathered_IV 7286 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I can’t say I ever really missed the autobahns, but the zero representation of the Allied bombing around airfields and towns is remarkable in its absence. Link to post Share on other sites
LukeFF 6788 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said: I can’t say I ever really missed the autobahns, but the zero representation of the Allied bombing around airfields and towns is remarkable in its absence. If you would ever play any of the single-player content, you would see that mission designers have done a fine job of showing airfield and city damage (Wind of Fury, Lightning Strikes, career mode, etc.). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dotDeutschland 38 Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 1:59 PM, vonGraf said: Maybe not on the Autobahn and not a 262 but these shells look nice too. Thats an Hs 129 somewhere on the eastern front, you can tell by the engine housing and the cannon in the very top of the pic Link to post Share on other sites
vonGraf 99 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, [N.O.G.F]dotDeutschland said: hats an Hs 129 somewhere on the eastern front, you can tell by the engine housing and the cannon in the very top of the pic Ok, I had guessed a Dackelbauch Bf-110, if someone had asked me. But I just see the instruments on the motor gondolas aren't right for a 110. Link to post Share on other sites
=AW=drewm3i-VR 97 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 10/9/2020 at 4:10 AM, blue_max said: I wish they'd open up the maps a bit more to modders... And then once the moders make the good maps great like they did in 1946 by adding landmarks, country barns and houses, bails of hay, livestock, roads, etc., they could patched into the game like the 4k pits. Link to post Share on other sites
J2_Oelmann 129 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I dont like the Rheinland map. The repetitive texture and lack of landmarks, towns and village makes it hard to navigate. Another downpoint is the lack of the Ruhrgebiet Area. The Industrial heart of germany looks like a a gew middle sized small towns in a Green countryside. Not an area where you couldnt dry your sheets without turning grey after a half day. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
II/JG17_HerrMurf 2826 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) I think Jason and Co have proven, if you are a supremely gifted modder there is room for you to take up some work - possibly for pay. Getting every town on the map or even getting ever detail right is not realistic. Make a stunning portfolio with in game modifications/FMB that don't bog the playability and see where it goes from there. The screenshots are a nice start but the quality probably has to be bumped up a bit to qualify. 4K skins by ICDP and other talented modders, careers for pay by those talented with the FMB, and the Velikiye Luki map are prime examples. Edited January 20 by II/JG17_HerrMurf 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bremspropeller 2677 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Well, IF there's ever gonna be an Autobahn, we'll also need a model of a 3 series BMW with hard-wired high-beams on the lefternmost lane... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ZachariasX 2836 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 5 hours ago, Bremspropeller said: Well, IF there's ever gonna be an Autobahn, we'll also need a model of a 3 series BMW with hard-wired high-beams on the lefternmost lane... ...that goes faster than your Yak. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
II/JG17_HerrMurf 2826 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, ZachariasX said: ...that goes faster than your Yak. Doesn't matter. The Yak will still out zoom climb it........ Link to post Share on other sites
ZachariasX 2836 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 9 hours ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said: Doesn't matter. The Yak will still out zoom climb it........ Because it's affaraid of flying under bridges. Spoiler Link to post Share on other sites
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