What kind of module would you like to see after BoN?

[vonGraf 72]

A new game 'engine'. Etc.

[=AFJ=JaMz 79]

On 9/30/2020 at 8:44 PM, 76IAP-Black said:

I ca even imagine an 60's or 70's scenario with this engine, like Vietnam, divided into different "Battles" 

Seriously?

 

You think this engine is 'decent'?

[Eisenfaustus 233]

18 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

Henschel 123, Hs-126, Fw-189, Ju-87B, Dornier Do-17?  There must be others.  

Because doing a full release with one side having no fighters sounds reasonable ^^

[ww2fighter20 65]

On 10/13/2020 at 9:06 PM, Eisenfaustus said:

With what axis planes? And due to the German army’s quick advance one wouldn’t be very long in the area of a typical box sized map I guess. 

Well the most ideal would be Leningrad which can start at 25/06/1941.

You get an new axis nation (Finland) while still being able to fly for Germany, planeset could be early war and mix between finnish and german aircraft, for example:

 

Fighters: Brewster B.239 (F2A)/Fiat G.50/Hawk 75A (P-36)/MS.406/Fokker D.XXI/Gloster Gladiator/Hurricane MkI

Attackers: Ju87B or R/Hs123/Bf110C or D

Bombers: Blenheim I or IV/Do17Z

 

If they need to include an bf109 they can still go for the Bf109F1, Bf109E7N or Bf109E4BN.

Finnish could also fly captured soviet aircraft so quite an variety is possible to fly on the axis side.

 

Soviets can also have several aircraft that have been asked several times in the past like the I-153, early variants of the LaGG3 and Yak1, P40b/c, Db3/IL4, Sb2, Su2, Pe3.

 

Another benefit for Leningrad is that the map can be used all the way into 1944.

[Semor76 621]

None of them. Forget about carrier ops. They get boring very quickly with hours of flying over endless waters. I prefer the Burma campaign. It´s the the most feasible module for a pacific scenario.

 

BtW..I want my KI-43 Back! Fighting angry tea bags over the green hell..those lovely times with the classic IL-2 series.

 

[Trooper117 2541]

Malaya... The British got a shock when they first faced those light, agile and fast Japanese aircraft.

Buffaloes, Blenheim's , Hudson's, Beaufort's, and even older types were hard pressed to survive.

[Beebop 611]

3 hours ago, Semor76 said:

Forget about carrier ops. They get boring very quickly with hours of flying over endless waters.

Could read "Forget about taking off and landing.  It gets boring very quickly with hours of flying over landscape."

 

I'm impressed that your takeoff and landing skills are so perfect that you can accomplish that in the confines of a carrier deck.  I'm often challenged to takeoff and especially land, on a long paved airbase on the BoBP Rhineland map.

IIRC bomber and escort flyers flew for over 8 hours in Europe to drop and few bombs on targets in Germany.

With the possible exception of the Battle of Britain, war wasn't just 30 minute dogfights that happened withing a few minutes of takeoff.

But then, to each his own as for how they like to play the game.

[ACG_Burdokva 53]

22 hours ago, Beebop said:

With the possible exception of the Battle of Britain, war wasn't just 30 minute dogfights that happened withing a few minutes of takeoff.

But then, to each his own as for how they like to play the game.

 

To be honest, that's how it actually was for the defending Axis nations pilots when intercepting American and British bomber formations. And, a significant portion of the air war on the Eastern Front was a constant stream of quick tactical engagements, often take off, fight and land within thirty minutes.

 

Doesn't detract or contradict you comment but hours long escort or bomber missions weren't how the entirety of the air war went.

Edited October 16, 2020 by Burdokva
Typos

[Beebop 611]

Point taken.

[messsucher 232]

52 minutes ago, Burdokva said:

 

To be honest, that's how it actually was for the defending Axis nations pilots when intercepting American and British bomber formations. And, a significant portion of the air war on the Eastern Front was a constant stream of quick tactical engagements, often take off, fight and land within thirty minutes.

 

Doesn't detract or contradict you comment but hours long escort or bomber missions weren't how the enterity of the air war went.

 

It was like that in Finland too.

[Gambit21 5281]

On 10/15/2020 at 7:55 AM, Beebop said:

Could read "Forget about taking off and landing.  It gets boring very quickly with hours of flying over landscape."

 

I'm impressed that your takeoff and landing skills are so perfect that you can accomplish that in the confines of a carrier deck. 

 

Exactomundo

[Tuesday 331]

On 10/11/2020 at 10:23 PM, Gambit21 said:

We need fresh blood on the Axis side...and you know what that means....

 

If you're referring to players - then clearly PTO because they will all fly American... and then only fly German when they buy into the earlier war stuff. 

If you're referring to aircraft - then clearly PTO.

[DN308 202]

I clearly would like battle of France

1- it’s a great battle too

2- the map would link the BoBP and the BoN one

so the full (or quite) west campaign could be re-enacted properly 

[Semor76 621]

On 10/15/2020 at 4:55 PM, Beebop said:

Could read "Forget about taking off and landing. 

 

 

Yes, could, but didn´t

 

On 10/15/2020 at 4:55 PM, Beebop said:

 

 

I'm impressed

That´s nice

 

On 10/15/2020 at 4:55 PM, Beebop said:

 

I'm often challenged to takeoff and especially land, on a long paved airbase on the BoBP Rhineland map.

 

Really? LoL. If you still have problems to start and land even on long paved runways in this Sim "game" then you should really work on your skills. 😉

 

 

 

 

 

[Gambit21 5281]

🙄

[Beebop 611]

2 hours ago, Semor76 said:

If you still have problems to start and land even on long paved runways in this Sim "game" then you should really work on your skills

What.  And start treating the game like a job?  What's the fun in that? 

I may not be an ace pilot but I enjoy the heck out of flying a game that accurately, to the current best ability of computer programmers, portrays flying cool looking WWII planes.  And looks so good to boot.

I know there are some very serious people out there playing this game and that's fine.  I'm just not one of them.

[Ghost666 89]

6 hours ago, Beebop said:

What.  And start treating the game like a job?  What's the fun in that? 

I may not be an ace pilot but I enjoy the heck out of flying a game that accurately, to the current best ability of computer programmers, portrays flying cool looking WWII planes.  And looks so good to boot.

I know there are some very serious people out there playing this game and that's fine.  I'm just not one of them.

+1

[VA_NAVY 16]

The same plane sets that 1946 has nuff said

[Beebop 611]

4 hours ago, VA_NAVY said:

The same plane sets that 1946 has nuff said

I hear that's planned for release in the 2nd quarter of 2045.

[VA_NAVY 16]

Wow that soon cant wait thats 10 years before Star Citizen.

[kestrel79 246]

I like the idea of going to the Pacific in an early war scenario, Burma, or Flying Tigers era would be pretty cool and would give us the Pacific without as many carriers or ships to build.

 

Either that or Italian Theater, mid war seems pretty fun to me.

 

I'm not a fan of super late war, UFO planes like how IL-2 got with the 1946 expansion. Planes that were prototypes, barely flew, or just design plans never really interested me.

[downedpilot 23]

lets have a very big zeppelin, over  London, dont forget the 1st ww

[pippa101 1]

 The Balkans, Crete, Malta. Many have suggested Finland; I really liked Finland in the original IL2 'Complete Edition/Forgotten Battles'.

[Hanu 322]

Early Pacific/indochina has a nice ring to it... You could see some Fokker D.XXI's, P-36's and Brewsters (with lighter B-239 mod) and Blenheims... 😁 I'd buy that for a several dollars more.

 

But overall, any early war stuff would interest me much more than (prototype planes or) planes that hardly made any effect anymore when all of it was resolved already.

 

Sure it's great that we got for example Me-262 and you had to learn how to master it, but for example regarding BoBp planes still I've spent most of my time in cockpits of P-38 and Bf-109 G14 after that.

[VA_SOLIDKREATE 2224]

Battle of Berlin, late 1945 or what I voted for above.

[DN308 202]

Italy 1943 would be more than interesting and welcome.

Lots of combats, interesting terrain and for devs, a great low-cost release or extension. Except the map, quite everything already exists.

 

However, I would like to see bombers. Flyable bombers. If HBs are impossible, I would like to fly some MBs like the B25 and 26. Blenheim, Beaufighters or Wellington. 

[Beebop 611]

A flyable B-25 would be a godsend IMO.  It would open up all kinds of possibilities for BoBP and BoN not to mention future releases.  If all those gunner positions make it difficult to realize how about just a pilot and bombardier version to start with?  🙏

[ACG_Smokejumper 275]

1 hour ago, Beebop said:

A flyable B-25 would be a godsend IMO.

 

 

I'd pay $50 for it without batting an eye.

[VA_SOLIDKREATE 2224]

2 hours ago, DN308 said:

Italy 1943 would be more than interesting and welcome.

Lots of combats, interesting terrain and for devs, a great low-cost release or extension. Except the map, quite everything already exists.

 

However, I would like to see bombers. Flyable bombers. If HBs are impossible, I would like to fly some MBs like the B25 and 26. Blenheim, Beaufighters or Wellington. 

 

 

Exactly, those would be epic. I've always said if the B-25 or 26 even came in here as a flyable plane, you'd probably see 100 units form up on release day.

[ACG_Smokejumper 275]

All I want is Midway. We can island hop after that.

Edited November 1, 2020 by ACG_Smokejumper

[Beebop 611]

6 hours ago, ACG_Smokejumper said:

All I want is Midway.

 

Wish granted;  Battle of Gorky Park. 

Release planned for 3rd Quarter 2021.

 

Early Access purchase includes Su-26 Aerobatic plane with 2 ShKAS 7.62 mm guns, new skywriting loadout for Po-2, flyable Ferris Wheel, drive-able Bumper Car,  animated 3D Clown Infantry, VR Cotton Candy Machine and Collector Vertigo Sky Ride.

 

 

😁

Edited November 1, 2020 by Beebop

[Hiuuz 1]

I voted for Easter Front because I would like to fly over Hungary 😄
Siege of Budapest, and the Balaton lake could be interesting.

Moreover in summer of '44 there was fight against B-24, B-17, P-51, P-38. After that in late '44 - early '45 against the soviets. Could be an interesting mix in a career playthrough.
Could the famous (at least in Hungary) Puma squadron introduced, and a little extra that in December '44 the JG52 arrived to Veszprém.

[Juri_JS 1641]

It's a less well known scenario, but my personal favorite would be Battle of East Prussia. This would allow us to cover the whole time from October 1944 to May 1945. An interesting feature would be to add the French Normandie-Niemen Regiment that was very active in this region. Moreover there were lots of naval operations by the German navy, so anti-shipping missions would be possible too.

 

Operations/battles during this time:

 

- Gumbinnen Operation (October 1944)

 

- East Prussian Offensive (Januray 1945 - April 1945)
    - Heiligenbeil pocket
    - Battle of Königsberg
    - Samland Offensive

 

- Battles around Danzig (March/April 1945)
    
- Operation Hannibal (January - May 1945, largest evacuation by sea in history)

 

- Vistula Estuary Bridgehead (April/May 1945, parts of JG 51 and SG 3 flew missions from the bridgehead until the last days of the war)

 

Possible German aircraft:

- Bf-109 G-10
- Fw-190 A-9/F-9
- Fw 189A
- Hs-129 B-3
- Ju-87 D-5/G-2
- Ar-196
- Ju 88 G-6
- Bf-110 G-4

 

The Arado 196 operated from German cruisers that gave fire support for German ground forces. They were mostly used as spotters, but apparently also flew some ground attack missions and even scored some kills.

Ju 88 G-6 and Bf-110 G-4 were used as night fighters by parts of NJG 5 and 100 against Soviet bombers. The units also flew ground attack missions. NJG 100 also had a few Fw-189 that were used as night fighters.

Edited November 14, 2020 by Juri_JS

[Beebop 611]

That would be very interesting theatre.  More boats....YES!!  An ambitious plane set though but the idea of getting a flyable (hopefully) seaplane is pretty irresistible to me.

Just think, moving the Wizard of Oz from 1930 Kansas to Europe during WWII and replacing the army of flying monkeys with fleets of Arado's....

😲 UH-OH!!  There's goes my imagination again. 

I really need to keep that in check. 😆🙄

 

Seriously, good suggestion.  I really do like the more obscure areas of the war.  I learn so much from them.

[FlyingShark 312]

I would like to see more early or mid war stuff.

But if more late war stuff is the way to go to keep this great sim going, by all means let them do so.

They'll have my support anyway.

Korea would be a nice side project by a partner but I'm mostly interested in WWII and WWI.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Eisenfaustus 233]

1 minute ago, FlyingShark said:

I would like to see more early or mid war stuff.

But if more late war stuff is the way to go to keep this great sim going, by all means let them do so.

They'll have my support anyway.

Korea would be a nice side project by a partner but I'm mostly interested in WWII and WWI.

 

Have a nice day.

 

I agree on every word

[BinakZaino 8]

If anything PTO related is out of limits, I would love to see a map set in the Spanish Civil War, maybe Madrid-Turel where the major battles and air combat took place. I think it would be interesting because it was that brief moment when biplanes were at their apex, monoplanes were still unproven, the Regia Aeronautica was master of the Sky, Germany had bad planes and was the prelude for ww2 in the west.

[Beebop 611]

12 minutes ago, BinakZaino said:

Germany had bad planes

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It was the proving ground for the 109, one of the finest fighters of WWII.  Even when it became long in the tooth towards the end of the war it was a better plane than some still in service.

We'll see PTO long before SWC.  The Spanish Civil War is just Flying Circus with planes on steroids, save the 109.  (That one is Conan the Barbarian on steroids).

 

Still, I would like SWC cuz I love "crap planes".  And, it's an interesting bit of 'Conflict History'.

Edited November 18, 2020 by Beebop

[BinakZaino 8]

On 11/18/2020 at 1:23 AM, Beebop said:

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It was the proving ground for the 109, one of the finest fighters of WWII.  Even when it became long in the tooth towards the end of the war it was a better plane than some still in service.

We'll see PTO long before SWC.  The Spanish Civil War is just Flying Circus with planes on steroids, save the 109.  (That one is Conan the Barbarian on steroids).

 

Still, I would like SWC cuz I love "crap planes".  And, it's an interesting bit of 'Conflict History'.

 

Sure, the 109 was the best plane in the war, but it was one of the last ones to reach the conflict, I think none was present in the battles of Madrid or the more decisive battle of Teurel. I used wrong words there, it wasn't that Germany had bad planes just that at that moment, Italian and Soviet planes had most of the action. And yes, lot's of biplanes, some of the best ever done and I like that.

 

Another battle I would like to see too is about Greece as a player could progress from Gladiators and CR. 32 to better planes like the Hurricane and the Fiat G.50. There are also some planes that I don't think I have seen in other games, like the CANT Z.1007. The devs could add a lot of good planes there. Maybe the problem would be the map as it would have to be quite big. But there could be solutions like make two smaller maps, one for the early conflict at the Albanian border and another one for Crete. 

Edited December 19, 2020 by BinakZaino

[216th_Cat 1037]

21 minutes ago, BinakZaino said:

 

Another battle I would like to see too is about Greece as a player could progress from Gladiators and CR. 32 to better planes like the Hurricane and the Fiat G.50. There are also some planes that I don't think I have seen in other games, like the CANT Z.1007. The devs could add a lot of good planes there. Maybe the problem would be the map as it would have to be

quite big. But there could be solutions like make two smaller maps, one for the early conflict at the Albanian border and another one for Crete. 

 

The Italian invasion of Greece from Albania - Battle of Epirus - my no.1 wish and I do bang on about it from time to time 😉.

 

Fiat CR 42

Fiat G.50bis

Macchi MC.200

Ju87B2 or R5

Cant Z.1007bis or Savoia SM.79

 

versus

 

PZL P.24

Gloster Gladiator II

Hawker Hurricane I

Fairey Battle

Bristol Blenheim I/IF or IV

 

Collector Pack:

 

Bloch MB151

Henschel Hs123 or Potez 63 or Fairey Swordfish

Henschel Hs126

Dornier Do17Z

Cant Z.1007bis or Savoia SM.79 or Fiat BR.20 or Vickers Wellington

 

Don't know if the collector pack would be viable; not much for the fighter jocks, although the three Luftwaffe aircraft are sorely missed on the Russian front.

The Battle of Crete? No, not a good scenario. No RAF/HAF planes based on the island during the invasion so a very one-sided air war.