AndyJWest 2614 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, Pict said: I though as much, but figured that it might pull the wings off. Incidentally, was the elephant also intended as a payload to be collected after the bungee launch in a sort of perpetual motion great egg race fashion Sadly, the elephant was a little reluctant to cooperate. Perpetual motion was still possible though, using this technique pioneered by the yanks back in the 1920s: The top aircraft refuels the bottom one, and then they swap places, thereby ensuring that at least one of them always has a full tank. You could keep it up for days. 😉 Link to post Share on other sites
Pict 549 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, AndyJWest said: The top aircraft refuels the bottom one No wonder they got to the moon Link to post Share on other sites
Field-Ops 366 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) A-20 G Bf-110 F IL-4 Edited July 9, 2020 by Field-Ops 1 Link to post Share on other sites
=gRiJ=Roman- 668 Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 If I could go for bombers only .... very unlikely to see them in collector planes, but .... 1. Do17/217. 2. DB3/TB3 3. A British one which could be feaseable to be done. Link to post Share on other sites
Voyager 195 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) On 7/4/2020 at 9:04 PM, Oliver88 said: If I could choose three that would fit into current announced and released battles then; Seafire L.III and Seafire F.III These fit into the Battle of Normandy module as there was three fighter squadrons from the Fleet Air Arm equipped with these and taking part in the invasion from shore bases. The type was also used in the BPF/BEF so scratches that itch for the OP. It's Fleet Air Arm so scratches the itch I've got also. Avenger I and Avenger II Again these would fit into the Battle of Normandy module as there were three squadrons from the Fleet Air Arm equipped with these and taking part in the invasion from shore bases. The type was also used in the BPF/BEF (and yankee fleets) so scratches that itch for the OP. It's Fleet Air Arm so scratches the itch I've got also. Also you would be nuts not want to experience some torpedo bombing in the sim. Airco DH.4 Because the Entente could do with an aircraft with a decent bombsight. It's also another RNAS aircraft and one that I loved in Rise of Flight. Continued to be used into 1918 so it is not out of place among the current plane set. I completely agree with that list. Bringing in some carrier fighters early also given them the opportunity to get some of the carrier related work funded and done prior to embarking on an expansion with a heavy naval presence. Though, if we could find any Marlets that were also operational during that frame, they could also be a handy swap-out for the Seafire. Either, or both would be very nice. Edited July 9, 2020 by Voyager Double post for the win... Link to post Share on other sites
twilson37 40 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I would love to see the Westland Lysander. Would be cool to try to make an SOE drop in some Normandy field in the middle of the night. Bristol Beaufighter C-47 Link to post Share on other sites
GOA_Companere_Karaye-*VR*- 104 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I dont know the two others.. but one of these must be the I-153/ I-15 Chaika 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Oliver88 246 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Voyager said: Though, if we could find any Marlets that were also operational during that frame, they could also be a handy swap-out for the Seafire. Either, or both would be very nice. I've written about this before as others have suggested them before. But for squadrons that operated in the map area and time that the module covers (808, 819, 848, 854, 855, 885, 886 and 897 Squadrons) you are in essence restricted to these types; Seafire L.III Seafire F.III Spitfire L.Vb Swordfish I Swordfish III Avenger I Avenger II There were carriers and squadrons using the Martlet and Hellcat that were supporting the invasion (shown as receiving the battle honour) but these were quite some distance outside the area that the module is giving us. Emperor, Pursuer and Tracker were in the South West Approaches and had on them Hellcats (800 and 804 Squadrons) and Martlets (881 and 896 Squadrons maybe 846 Squadron also) and Avengers (846 Squadron). There are other squadrons (816, 838, 849, 850) that also gained the battle honour but during the invasion these were for most part just using some of the same aircraft as in the above bullet list and based outside the modules proposed map area. Data gained from The Squadrons and Units of the Fleet Air Arm through seeing what ships and squadrons were given Normandy for Battle Honours. And cross referencing listed bases with the modules proposed map area. Is a chance I've missed something though. Edited July 10, 2020 by Oliver88 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jollyjack 563 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) uhhh, C47? Henschel 126? L2 Grasshopper? Edited July 10, 2020 by jollyjack Link to post Share on other sites
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann 1807 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 4:15 AM, jollyjack said: uhhh, C47? Henschel 126? L2 Grasshopper? L-4 pls. Link to post Share on other sites
SMARTAZZ 150 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 How about this little sweet heart !? A-26 INVADER Or this! Westland Whirlwind 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
[-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR 460 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Based on existing aircraft inside IL2 these might be easy to make: 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Heliopause 901 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Maybe a crop duster for the fun of it 😀 We've got the fields ... Link to post Share on other sites
JG300_Winterz 95 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Do-217, Yak-3, C-47. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bremspropeller 2292 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Given the possibilities arising out of the upcoming Normandy Map: Semi-serious: "Lost Butcher Birds" bundle: - Fw 190A-1 - Fw 190A-2 - Fw 190A-4 "Lost Spitfires" bundle: - Spitfire FL VB - Spitfire IX "early" - Spitfire XII On a slightly more serious note: 1)"Dieppe" - Fw 190A-2 (maybe an A-4, but those just started delivery in August '42) - Mustang I, IA and II - Spitfire IX "early" and Spitfire LF VB 2) "Achtung Jabos!" Package - Spitfire XII - Fw 190A-4 - early Typhoon Ib with a three-bladed prop and the car-door 3) "The Yankees are coming!" - P-38F/G/H (only the H was used in-theater starting in september '43; F and G were used in the MTO, though) - P-47D (lower block numbers, maybe -5, -15, -20) - A-36 (only used in the MTO, but fun nonetheless) 3 Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Cat 1052 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said: Given the possibilities arising out of the upcoming Normandy Map 1)"Dieppe" - Fw 190A-2 (maybe an A-4, but those just started delivery in August '42) - Mustang I, IA and II - Spitfire IX "early" and Spitfire LF VB You have to have to have the Do217 here - everything else can be 'approximated' from what we have or are getting. I'd love to see a full, accurate, Dieppe planeset though. One hell of a day's aerial combat in a very tight location. 👍 Edited July 17, 2020 by 216th_Cat 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bremspropeller 2292 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, 216th_Cat said: I'd love to see a full, accurate, Dieppe planeset though. One hell of a day's aerial combat in a very tight location. I'd rather not fix it to a single day's fighting, but the whole timeframe (summer of '69 42 to summer of '43), so one can do more than just playing Operation Jubilee over and over again. Other than that, I agree - a whole plane-set would be fun. And it doesn't stop there: There could be bomber-Mossies and especially in Normandy, recce/ tac recce missions would be very interesting! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
41Sqn_Skipper 200 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said: Given the possibilities arising out of the upcoming Normandy Map: Semi-serious: "Lost Butcher Birds" bundle: - Fw 190A-1 - Fw 190A-2 - Fw 190A-4 "Lost Spitfires" bundle: - Spitfire FL VB - Spitfire IX "early" - Spitfire XII On a slightly more serious note: 1)"Dieppe" - Fw 190A-2 (maybe an A-4, but those just started delivery in August '42) - Mustang I, IA and II - Spitfire IX "early" and Spitfire LF VB 2) "Achtung Jabos!" Package - Spitfire XII - Fw 190A-4 - early Typhoon Ib with a three-bladed prop and the car-door 3) "The Yankees are coming!" - P-38F/G/H (only the H was used in-theater starting in september '43; F and G were used in the MTO, though) - P-47D (lower block numbers, maybe -5, -15, -20) - A-36 (only used in the MTO, but fun nonetheless) Make all of them and then add a "Channel Front" map by merging parts of the BOBP and parts of the BON map and take my 80€ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
icecream 30 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I hope we get a Do217 variant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
migmadmarine 294 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) Would love to see the A-26 invader come in, in some form. Would be amusing if they put in the Martlet or Hellcat Mk.1 seeing as the FAA operated a small number on D-Day, could be a way to give a little Pacific taster. I'll also cast in my vote with the I-153 and Ju-87B that others have mentioned. HS-129B-3 would be cool, but doubt it will come any time soon as none of our current theaters fit it I believe. Edited August 2, 2020 by migmadmarine 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gimpy117 132 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I'm still wanting the Wildcat (martlet) and the Il4 one plugs a hole is Russian ground attack, the other opens a door for pacific. Link to post Share on other sites
Oliver88 246 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, migmadmarine said: Would love to see the A-26 invader come in, in some form. Would be amusing if they put in the Martlet or Hellcat Mk.1 seeing as the FAA operated a small number on D-Day, could be a way to give a little Pacific taster. I'll also cast in my vote with the I-153 and Ju-87B that others have mentioned. HS-129B-3 would be cool, but doubt it will come any time soon as none of our current theaters fit it I believe. And where do you imagine being able to use these Martlets and Hellcats? The Fleet Air Arm was operating Martlets and Hellcats in support of the invasion. But these were not in the area that we are being given. They remained in the South Western Approaches. To include thier area of operations you would need to move the map so far west that Normandy would have to be excluded from Battle of Normandy or stretch the map to over double the width. I guess you could ask for a small map of just ocean to use them on. Not sure that would see much use, with no other opposition but enemy submarines. If you want some naval aircraft that were used in both Neptune and Pacific to give you a taste of the latter then I believe you should be asking for Seafires and Avengers. But you would be using them from shore bases for Battle of Normandy. Edited August 2, 2020 by Oliver88 Link to post Share on other sites
Tritsch 3 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Dewoitine 520 would great to recreate the battle of France when we will get the new France map. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SqueakyS 66 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 How about a recce pack? Arado Ar 196 Fieseler Fi 156 Storch Westland Lysander 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AndytotheD 54 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I also believe aerial reconnaissance would be a welcome addition in the form of a mission mechanic, modifications to existing aircraft and of course the addition of new aircraft to the game. In particular, I’d advocate for the Spitfire PR.XI, as it served with 2TAF and the USAAF, as arguably one of the more famous WW2 recon aircraft. Link to post Share on other sites
SCG_FeuerFliegen 128 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 He 219 Ju 188 Do 217 Ju 87 D-5 Do 17Z I-153 IL-4 Tu-2 La7 Yak 3/3P Fw189 P63 P61 Fairey Firefly Beaufighter I would personally pay $1500 if I could get all of these planes. Link to post Share on other sites
mattebubben 114 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 5:39 PM, Tritsch said: Dewoitine 520 would great to recreate the battle of France when we will get the new France map. Would probably be best left for a full Battle of France Expansion though. Since there are no other aircraft of that timeframe in the game. (No 109E-1,E-3,E-4,Bf-110C and no Ju-87B,Do-17 etc) So far Collectors aircraft have primarily been aircraft that can be fitted into current scenarios (Both Map wise and amongst the existing aircraft). Though i would love to have a Battle of France Expansion centered on the 1940 invasion. But until then we now have the D.520 in Clod (Its part of the Desert Wings Expansion) and its a fun little aircraft. (and It can ofc also be flown over France on the old Clod map) Link to post Share on other sites
L3Pl4K 204 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Bf110 F1 Ju188 A2 DO217 K2 Link to post Share on other sites
=gRiJ=Roman- 668 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Now, here we start again The Hurricane is great, I love it! Link to post Share on other sites
ITAF_Rani 677 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Mc 200 for Battle of Moscow 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TikiBar_Ted 12 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Early P-40B or C 2 Link to post Share on other sites
cardboard_killer 1117 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 NONE. We need to conserve planes for more modules, unless we want map only modules in the future. Link to post Share on other sites
Redwo1f 346 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, cardboard_killer said: NONE. We need to conserve planes for more modules, unless we want map only modules in the future. Well, yes and no... Yes, they do need planes for more modules in the future and they need to be completely mindful of that. But no, in the sense that all collector planes have pretty much been done to enhance already produced modules (and not be extremely "required" planes) - and also generate sales. So in that vein, some of the suggestions in this thread do really work too. Edited November 6, 2020 by Redwo1f Link to post Share on other sites
ww2fighter20 71 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, cardboard_killer said: NONE. We need to conserve planes for more modules, unless we want map only modules in the future. Depends on what aircraft and type, there are quite some aircraft that we will never see included in an new module. Aircraft like the Fw190A9 and Bf109G10 are needed for an late eastern front release while aircraft like the Gloster Meteor can't be used on different modules that we don't have already and aircraft like the LaGG3-66 will very unlikely be part of an new module because it's unlikely to go for that map/time period or better options of aircraft are available. There are also plenty of medium bombers they can still do without harming future modules like the Tu2 for Kuban (Tu2S for late war), Do217 and Ju188 for Normandy, A20, B25, B26 and A26 for Normandy and/or Bodenplatte of which some can have several variants as seperate releases (A20 for example Boston III and A20G). There are also many recon/transport options still left open like the Fw189, Westland Lysander, Piper Cub, C47, that will never be included in the standard package of modules (An flyable C47 was for example not included in Normandy). Edited November 6, 2020 by ww2fighter20 Link to post Share on other sites
Balto- 66 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I would like the see the following added He-177 B-25-J Tu-2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Browning 1012 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) Let's give every nation a proper medium bomber: B-25 IL-4 Vickers Wellington Edited November 8, 2020 by [DBS]Browning 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GOA_Companere_Karaye-*VR*- 104 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1- I-153/15 Chaika 2- D520 3- L4 . Link to post Share on other sites
Gimpel 48 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 J2M3 Ki-84 F-4U-1D 1 Link to post Share on other sites
EAF19_Marsh 799 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Quote battle of France when we will get the new France map We have a pretty-good BoF map - albeit it does not get quite as far south as Sedan. Link to post Share on other sites
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