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Ju 52 kinda want it because I always use it for target practice when I play but seems like it would be worthless in Mp same with the u2 soviet bi plane. And also the Bf 109 G6 ( but I mean is it an improvment over the other kuban models) I cannot decide for the life of me also I think im missing one of the yaks and La planes. Can maybee get 2 now what should I get.

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i adore the ju52 and the u2.

 

but theyre not gonna give you l33t killz in mp.

 

a great change of pace though.

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I haven’t bought the Po-2, but if they added stretcher pods and the ability to land in the field I would be all over it.  

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G6 is heavier than all the older 109s and not really more powerful, it does have improved firepower though, with the 7.92mm LMGs being replaced by 13.2mm HMGs and the option of mounting the MK108 30mm cannon. So if you want more forepower at the cost of some performance the G6 is good. If you're missing the La-5FN that is a must have, the La-5 is nice but not the powerhouse the FN is.

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Flying a career with the Ju-52 is really relaxing, until your delivery takes you a bit too close to the frontline and Soviet fighters decide to come bully you lol.
I would definitely recommend it when the plane goes on sale, I've noticed that I appreciate the little details of the maps a lot more while flying it.

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2 hours ago, Gamington said:

but seems like it would be worthless in Mp

In TAW the usefullness of the Ju 52 had to be toned down, because everyone and her mother was dropping Paratroopers into dropzones to move the map. Ahh .. those were the days. :biggrin:

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2 hours ago, GOA_Karaya_VR said:

I have the 52 and the G6 , the Macchi .. Mmm I dont know if buying it or not.. ( I should give a chance ? )

 

You definitely should - nice airplane!

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Im prob gonna do the Ju 52 because I have slaughtered thousands of them as target practice. And That post won me over. Also I like firepower and a bit heavier BF sounds like id like it more as im more of a fock wulf fan. I really need to start using Soviet planes more however so maybee Ill just get 3.

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Taking the U-2VS into multiplayer is like playing a survival horror game, hiding in between tree lines and hugging the deck, hoping no 109 is looking at the floor because you know all you can do is dodge and hope they lose you again if you're spotted

 

It's great, 10/10 airplane

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The JU-52 is a funny plane, it gets lost in the midst of all the fancy fighters, and maybe you don't fly it that much, but every time you do fly it you realize how beautiful the model is and how great it is to fly. Early morning takeoff, rough weather, the instruments a' glowing. It really is a treat.

 

(I was lucky enough to have mine gifted to me by a fine Girtish gentleman.)

 

The only bad thing about the JU-52 is the lack of a "Lukla" airfield on the Kuban map. That would be a riot!

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9 hours ago, GOA_Karaya_VR said:

I have the 52 and the G6 , the Macchi .. Mmm I dont know if buying it or not.. ( I should give a chance ? )

 

I adore the Macchi. She is a treat to fly even if her guns are anemic. 

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Just now, pfrances said:

 

I adore the Macchi. She is a treat to fly even if her guns are anemic. 


Also, it’s just really enjoyable to fly an Axis fighter that isn’t a Bf-109, Bf-110, or Fw-190.

 

It always makes me kinda sad to see how under appreciated Italian aircraft are. The G.50 in CloD and MC.202 in GB can really shift the playing field with how good they are at turning.

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Nothing like flying JU52 online, hugging the ground, going from one small hill to another with a delusion that they will provide some sort of cover and seeing how far you can get before the bullets rip through your fuselage.  

 

It is actually pretty fun, I'm not being sarcastic.

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13 hours ago, Gamington said:

Ju 52 kinda want it because I always use it for target practice when I play but seems like it would be worthless in Mp same with the u2 soviet bi plane. And also the Bf 109 G6 ( but I mean is it an improvment over the other kuban models) I cannot decide for the life of me also I think im missing one of the yaks and La planes. Can maybee get 2 now what should I get.

I would wait for summer sale that will probably come in 2-3 weeks, and then you can get 4 for price of 1 now as i expect they will be useual 75% off.

G6 have benefit of 30mm compared to G2 or G4 that you would expect to see on same missions. I got it when it was 5$ worth the price.

For Yaks, you can get Yak1B for 5$ then and then Yak-9T (probably not gona be on big 75% sale as its new, maybe 25-33% off), i would skip on Yak-9.

La-5 i would also think if i need La-5 or Yak-1b, would go for La-5 if i buy Yak-9T, would probably not get both or all 3 if i dont have to, but would get La-5FN for sure for 5$ as its best late vvs fighter in game.

For MP yes you dont realy need Ju52 or u2, i skip on them even if they are 75% off.

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7 hours ago, Gamington said:

Im prob gonna do the Ju 52 because I have slaughtered thousands of them as target practice. And That post won me over. Also I like firepower and a bit heavier BF sounds like id like it more as im more of a fock wulf fan. I really need to start using Soviet planes more however so maybee Ill just get 3.

 

Ju52 is very enjoyable to fly.  Awhile back I changed PWCG to allow multiple pilots in a career.  I like fighters day to day, but other things are fun to fly as well.  So it I want a change of pace or my pilot gets wounded I jump into a different persona and fly a Ju52 or He111 mission.  I'm not an MP guy but I know some people do fly the Ju52 in MP.  It's like a small slice of MS Flight Simulator in the middle of WWII.

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The Ju52 was a great surprise to me.

I did not think that I would have so much fun flying over the maps with this plane.

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I like em all, because I bought ALL available ones. Every single plane in the game has it´s advantages or disadvantages, it´s all personal preference. But talking about the Ju-52...……...it´s really fun in VR to sit in that nice Cockpit and cruise around very slowly, very nice for fun and sightseeing flights.

 

The Macchi is also really fun, it flies lovely and has a unique look.

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18 hours ago, Gamington said:

Ju 52 kinda want it because I always use it for target practice when I play but seems like it would be worthless in Mp same with the u2 soviet bi plane. And also the Bf 109 G6 ( but I mean is it an improvment over the other kuban models) I cannot decide for the life of me also I think im missing one of the yaks and La planes. Can maybee get 2 now what should I get.

I cant unddrstand why not have-’em all. I bought the G6 and I do not fly 109

17 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

I haven’t bought the Po-2, but if they added stretcher pods and the ability to land in the field I would be all over it.  

Sometimes your just stubborn. It is a beauty. Look again, you never will admit it but you will love it. 

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Agree w/most.  I'd say getting VVS fighters is a must.  I originally flew only German, but playing both sides teaches you to be a better pilot.  Yak9 and Yak1B are close enough that you really only need one.  Get the 9T if the firepower of a high-velocity 37mm appeals to you.  Capable of potting tanks (but not usually a one-shot wonder) and enormously capable against aircraft (though again, not always with one shot) on a fairly high performance solid maneuvering platform.  I would also think the LA-5 and LA-5FN are musts.  The 5 because you have access to it a lot more frequently than the FN.  It is pretty fast, has superior firepower to most other VVS planes, and doesn't seem to lose much if any performance running with the cockpit open, so its fun to fly.  The FN is, as C-Zero said, the best VVS fighter in the game, but its only available in 43 or later scenarios, and while it is a superb fighter, I am unsure which model 109 and 190 will truly outclass it.  However, it will certainly struggle against D9 and K4.  Probably fairly even up against A-8, G-14 and earlier.  Will be interesting to see how/when 1C brings in later war VVS figher a/c.  On the G6 while you could buy it for the firepower upgrade, it definitely underperforms the G4.  Plus, if you plan to buy BoN you'll get the G6 'late' with the pack.  As for the 52, I don't have it yet either - only one I don't have.  Maybe I'll pick it up on sale, but the whole cargo thing just doesn't do it for me.  "Rubber dog shit from Hong Kong...."  Perhaps I'd like dropping paratroops though....  

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I have the 52 and it's fun if you like more relaxed types of missions, i.e. flying a bus. It's slow, it's low and it can't shoot and you'll be in trouble if you're not being escorted when someone jumps you. It's a unique plane though so worth it in my view (I bought it for something like $5 so can't complain).

 

Regarding Bf 109 - I don't really know why you'd want one seeing how many variations we already have in the game. I think there's like 10 or 12 if you own all expansions. Not worth it if you ask me but I'm sure people that are more knowledgeable than me will say otherwise.

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If you can learn to long range, low level navigate in the Ju-52 with precision, all map nav aids off in all weather, there's no way that you will ever get lost in a fighter again, period.

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3 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:
21 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

 

Sometimes your just stubborn. It is a beauty. Look again, you never will admit it but you will love it.


In a video game I put more value on gameplay over anything else.  I’m very interested in the Po-2 in the real world, but in the game it does not have the core features that I need.  
 

to misquote a popular phrase..  I’d definitely buy it tomorrow if the gameplay gets updated today.  :biggrin:

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The Po2 and Ju53 are great. P38 is great. MC202 is great. I'd really only recommend the P40 unless you really like the Hawk family of planes. Spitfire 5 is a must. Really the only planes I'd not recommend are the Yaks, La5s and Bf109s since... the differences between them are so minor IMO. A bigger gun here, a different canopy there.

 

But the Ju53 and Po2 are good perchases. Easily worth it.

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Macchi cockpit is spectacular in VR, the skins and normalmaps are in desperate need of an upgrade but that will come with time.

 

It's not the best armed plane but certainly a little gem in the BOX repertoir.

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Ju-52, Po-2/U-2VS, and Hurricane are pretty much Must Have planes. Along with the Spit, Hs-129, P-40, P-38, and in the near future, Arado 234.

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I love all the Yaks, but with the exception of the 9T with the BIG CANNON they are indeed rather similar. The La-5 and La-5FN are great fun and a real contrast to the Yaks. The La-5 gives us a VVS aircraft that can actually outrun an 109 below 2000 m and rolls like crazy. If you play career etc on the Kuban map it is a good opponent for the 109G2 and G4. The La-5FN is vastly better than the La-5, but in career mode it only comes in right at the end of the Kuban campaign when the LW had withdrawn most aircraft apart from some 109s. Both the La-5 and La-5FN recently got beautiful 4k exteriors done by ICDP, which added to the canopy reflections, instrument glass and Oysters 4k interior mods gives them a real refresh.  

 

The MC.202 is a great looking aircraft, but the cockpit interior isn't really up to the standards of later efforts and it's frustratingly lacking in firepower. I also have the Ju-52 and the biplane. Flown each about twice. If I want fun at low speeds with truly terrible handling characteristics, I will go fly something in FC :)

 

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The other point is that the MC202 operationnal career on the eastern front is very small : I think only 17 sorties, no combat

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10 minutes ago, jeanba said:

The other point is that the MC202 operationnal career on the eastern front is very small : I think only 17 sorties, no combat

 

They did apparently see combat, escorting bombers and transports as well as flying fighter-bomber sorties.

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11 minutes ago, [Pb]Cybermat47 said:

 

They did apparently see combat, escorting bombers and transports as well as flying fighter-bomber sorties.

Do you have sources and accounts for this ?

 

I searched for years, but did not find one

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I'll pipe in here,

 

I love the U-2VS. It's legitimately one of the planes I've had the most fun in. It would be awesome if you could load cargo or medivac or whatever, but just using it to fulfill a ground attack role is amazing.

 

I've had pilots in Bf-109s simply ignore me while attacking objectives; and because of its slow speed you see an uncatogorized level of accuracy. Even just the pure level of modifications for the aircraft is amazing.

 

Don't want navigation lights, artificial horizon, or radio? Don't need them.

Rockets, a forward firing gun, and bombs? You want it, you got it.

A turret to defend yourself? Optional.

 

It is an utter joy to fly characteristically, with my only problem being that you CAN'T carry every ordinance option at the same time or it won't take off.

 

So that's enough from me, I'll leave you with some backing media, all from MP matches:

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And FYI: I do use timed fuzes on my bombs.

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This thread motivated me to flu a Ju52 mission last night.  Got attacked by fighters.  Our escort did a mostly good enough job but one leaked through.  He focused on me.  Every time he approached I banked hard into him then watched him go by with one of my escorts close behind.  Rinse, wash, repeat for about 10 minutes.  He did get me pretty good one time causing me to leak coolant from engine 1.  My Iron Annie still made it home.

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On 6/9/2020 at 10:24 PM, Gamington said:

Ju 52 kinda want it because I always use it for target practice when I play but seems like it would be worthless in Mp same with the u2 soviet bi plane. And also the Bf 109 G6 ( but I mean is it an improvment over the other kuban models) I cannot decide for the life of me also I think im missing one of the yaks and La planes. Can maybee get 2 now what should I get.

 

G-6 with the 30mm is my fav aircraft for furballing on Berloga.

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3 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

This thread motivated me to flu a Ju52 mission last night. 

Was this online or your generator? 
I love the JU 52 to death. 
I find career too repetative. So I only use it on finnish server

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2 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Was this online or your generator? 
I love the JU 52 to death. 
I find career too repetative. So I only use it on finnish server

 

PWCG. 

 

Sort of by definition Ju52 flights are going to be repetitive :)  - but they are fun every so often.  What I do is create an alternative persona to fly Ju52s and fly a mission every once in awhile.  Ju52 missions in PWCG take you closer to the front.  Small scale parachute or cargo drops or simple transport to a front line field.  

 

Once I have had my Auntie Ju fix I go back to being a fighter pilot.

 

There are a few (IMHO) really nice things going with PWCG these days.  The first is the ability to have multiple personas.  I have my fighter pilot, my bomber pilot, and my transport pilot.  I like fighters so I fly that probably 80% to 90% of the time.  But now I can switch personas when I want a break and just fly bomber or transport as I feel the want or need.

 

The second has always been there: transfer.  If you don't like the campaign just transfer.  You don't have to start from the beginning again.

 

Looking forward to the appearance of the Hs129 to start a little ground attack.  

 

Short version is I really do like the main types, but flying the outliers is a fun too.  Now I can get what I want in the doses that I want it without committing to flying 500 transport missions :) 

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15 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

He did get me pretty good one time causing me to leak coolant from engine 1

Leaking coolant from radial engine?

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10 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

going to be repetitive :)  - but they are fun every so often.  What I do is create an alternative persona to fly Ju52s and fly a mission every once in awhile.  Ju52 missions in PWCG take you closer to the front.

Yes I have s oroblem with installing this mod and last time I tried it spread all over the gamefolder. It kept telling me it was placed on wrong place. 
I am a huge fan of your product we use it for coop. I will try again. Shorter trips will make wonders, I love flying it but I never use [A] So career is just too long time. And I do not have it

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3 hours ago, Elem said:

Leaking coolant from radial engine?

 

Good point :) . What's the greenish smoke?  

 

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2 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

 

Good point :) . What's the greenish smoke?  

 

Fuel

 

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