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2 hours ago, Blitzen said:

Has anyone answered the question whether removing SteamVR does anything to improve VR performance? I can’t think it makes much difference & wouldn’t allow adjustments made in Steam VR settings...which I have questions about as well.

 

Hi James.  I can tell you that for me it makes a good difference not using Steam VR.  I've got a Rift so I can use OpenComposite but you're using a Pimax I believe so.....whatever SteamVR does.....

 

Not too sure what adjustments SteamVR can do for me anyway.  If I want to adjust SS I know I can do it in OpenComposite or use the Tray Tool.

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1 hour ago, Han said:

ATI specialists have responded to our "Batman Searchlight" - they have confirmed that it is driver issue.

OK.  So if the testers using Raedeon cards didn't report any problems during testing, what driver were they using?  That way I can roll back to that driver until a fix for current driver is found.

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2 hours ago, Han said:

ATI specialists have responded to our "Batman Searchlight" - they have confirmed that it is driver issue.

What will be the solution - driver update or game changes which will buffer driver disadvantage - time will show. 

But at least - there is a light in the end of the tunnel (and it seems that it is not a train headlight 🙂 ).

Gave ATI you any clue, how long it will take for them, to solve the problem with a updated driver?

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On 5/21/2020 at 8:32 AM, 9./JG27golani79 said:

Thanks for the update - it´s looking quite nice and performance is also good!

Just need to tweak my settings for VR a bit I guess.

 

There is one issue though I ran into - not sure if it was posted already.

Water looks a bit strange depending on lighting and angle.

 

 

These are my settings:

 

 

Yes when the sun is low and reflecting on the water it does look quite strange.

 

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7 minutes ago, Tbolt47 said:

 

Yes when the sun is low and reflecting on the water it does look quite strange.

 

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What exactly is strange about it? I'm pretty sure I've seen water look like that while I was traveling by plane over the great lakes, here are some pictures of water at sunset:

 

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7 minutes ago, unlikely_spider said:

I don't think I would accuse the color saturation those photos of being representative of reality. Especially the last one.

Yes, but the choppy look to the water doesn't look that far off. Maybe a bit too sharp in game though.

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9 minutes ago, unlikely_spider said:

I don't think I would accuse the color saturation those photos of being representative of reality. Especially the last one.

 

True, but the game is much less saturated than those photos. The fact remains that the water looks choppy and also diffuses a lot of yellow-ish reflection when there are no shadows to block it. Again, I've seen this same effect in real life from a plane.

 

A lot of times real life will surprise you.

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4 hours ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

Yes, they included Hurricane in hotfix! 

 

No, they did not. Please don't spread misinformation.

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2 hours ago, Beebop said:

OK.  So if the testers using Raedeon cards didn't report any problems during testing, what driver were they using?  That way I can roll back to that driver until a fix for current driver is found.

they did, however there is only 2 or 3 of us it seems. But for many reasons it never appeared isolated to radeon cards. There were problems shown for everyone, they gradually got whittled down but the small shimmering on ground at very low altitude (ie landing) appeared to slip through. As for seeing it over snow where it is much more pronounced - I have to admit I never took off from snow field to see it. I rolled back to 18.x something and 19x (from 20.2.2)and nothing changed so do not believe that will help.

I have 10 year old processor (phenom 965) guess it may have been thought my hardware is to blame although video card is much newer

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1 hour ago, flyingfisch said:

 

 

What exactly is strange about it? I'm pretty sure I've seen water look like that while I was traveling by plane over the great lakes, here are some pictures of water at sunset:

 

 

 

 

Because all those picture you have used shows the high reflectivity of the water surface - in game at this angle you don't get that, it looks more matt and more like a hard surface than water. Go look at it in game for yourself in early morning Autumn and tell me then you think it looks realistic.

 

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9 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

No, they did not. Please don't spread misinformation.

Sense of humor....zero! 🤖

I believe this community is intelligent enough to get that joke!

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1 minute ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

Sense of humor....zero! 🤖

I believe this community is intelligent enough to get that joke!

 

Yellow Card! Next time you're out!

 

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Mark me unintelligent...I thought somehow I had missed it , so I dropped everything , fired up the ol' PC and GB & yes cursed myself when I found out I was a late April Fool!

Shot down again!

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3 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

Mark me unintelligent...I thought somehow I had missed it , so I dropped everything , fired up the ol' PC and GB & yes cursed myself when I found out I was a late April Fool!

Shot down again!

Flex tape will fix this, i‘m sure

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6 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

Mark me unintelligent...I thought somehow I had missed it , so I dropped everything , fired up the ol' PC and GB & yes cursed myself when I found out I was a late April Fool!

Shot down again!

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Nah...you just love that plane too much!

At least you were happy and excited for a moment and happy life is made of those small happy moments😁

6 minutes ago, H_Stiglitz said:

Flex tape will fix this, i‘m sure

He's an American, chewing gum should be more handy😉😜 (this should look like ww2 joke)

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9 hours ago, Voidhunger said:

I have overclocked CPU to 4.4ghz and my memory to only 1866. I need to lower it because I have BSOD before.

I know that my PC is old now (although I cannot run career since beginning), but unfortunately my wife disagree with me, that I need better one.

 

I would start with the over clock as a potential cause...

 

Monitor  with task manager running in background. After a session with freezing (pause game) , swap out and have a look at the usage graphs (cpu , gpu , system memory , video card memory, hard drive use)

IL-2 is single core speed intensive

 

I would highly recommend using something like MSI  Afterburner software as it makes doing troubleshooting far easier

(both in game and via logging info)

Also another useful tool is hardware monitor (classic versions is free), or some other tool like this , people use to check and monitor when doing overclocks.

If you are doing over clocking I would expect you have these kind of tools installed(as you should be checking this kind of thing with overclocks)

 

I use these tools all the time when performance turning my pc on any game or program, like Il-2, DCS etc.

 

You may be getting CPU throttling , if its getting to hot , this is a built in method to stop damage to cpu or save power

If you don't know what you are doing overclocking is not a good idea....

 

https://reviewspapa.com/cpu-throttling-and-how-to-fix-it/

 

Links

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor-pro.html
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3 hours ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

Nah...you just love that plane too much!

At least you were happy and excited for a moment and happy life is made of those small happy moments😁

He's an American, chewing gum should be more handy😉😜 (this should look like ww2 joke)

Well we have ducked tape. BTW Blitzen what did you get in the way of?

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I am running the latest version Wondows 10 1909 Build 18363.836.

IL-2 V. 4.006b

I'm running Radeon 20.2.2 (WHQL) others drivers are not recomend you guys should use this driver. It's the most stable new driver, others are optional and 20.2.2 is Windows certified.

CPU: i7 4770K 

GPU: RX Vega 64 LC.

 

Turning off grass and changing to MSAA helped but it's still not fixed. In the Air it's not so bad but when you get close to the ground the flickering starts again with dark blotches flashing on the ground as you get closer to the terrain even with the grass turned off.

 

I also tried bringing up the AMD overlay as it always would kill the games performance from 144fps to 10fps in the past versions of IL-2. The FPS seemed stable at 144fps but for some weird reason Steam started taking screenshots and wouldn't stop. It catured 50+ screenshots in a few seconds. The weird thing is I didn't activate the steam overlay, not even close and I have nothing bound in steam to take screen shots so it shouldn't take any screenshots at all. Looks like the overlays are getting mixed up between AMD and steam as I did bring up the AMD one and took screen shots using Radeon driver earlier but not then and steam doesn't even have a keybind recorded for screenshots. Very weird issue and no other game has any issue with Radeon Overlay or seam overlay.

 

You guys will have to test the new 5700XT and RX Vega seperately as they are very different. RX Vega series cards have HBM2 memory and a high bandwidth cache controller and 5700XT's have GDR6.

 

Call of Duty: Modern warfare just fixed a issue that only affected RX Vega series cards and not the new 5700 series so it shows they are very different and both need seperate testing.

 

AMD cards are only becominng more and more popular so you guys need them for testing on new updates. Many new people are going to buy IL-2  because of the sale and will have a bad experience on AMD cards so I hope you guys sort it out soon. 

 

Good luck fixing this guys.

Really looking forward to playing the new updated graphics.

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1 hour ago, =IL2AU=astrix_au said:

 

AMD cards are only becominng more and more popular so you guys need them for testing on new updates. 

 

I will be upgrading my video card to a 5700 xt in the future after two decades of using Intel. So I'm hoping things will improve. Intel is just too over inflated in their costs now.

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4 hours ago, Geronimo553 said:

 

I will be upgrading my video card to a 5700 xt in the future after two decades of using Intel. So I'm hoping things will improve. Intel is just too over inflated in their costs now.

 

You're using integrated graphics GPU or did I miss something else Intel have done? I know there's talk of them bringing a card out this year but I don't think it's a serious contender.

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9 hours ago, =RS=Stix_09 said:

 

I would start with the over clock as a potential cause...

 

Monitor  with task manager running in background. After a session with freezing (pause game) , swap out and have a look at the usage graphs (cpu , gpu , system memory , video card memory, hard drive use)

IL-2 is single core speed intensive

 

I would highly recommend using something like MSI  Afterburner software as it makes doing troubleshooting far easier

(both in game and via logging info)

Also another useful tool is hardware monitor (classic versions is free), or some other tool like this , people use to check and monitor when doing overclocks.

If you are doing over clocking I would expect you have these kind of tools installed(as you should be checking this kind of thing with overclocks)

 

I use these tools all the time when performance turning my pc on any game or program, like Il-2, DCS etc.

 

You may be getting CPU throttling , if its getting to hot , this is a built in method to stop damage to cpu or save power

If you don't know what you are doing overclocking is not a good idea....

 

https://reviewspapa.com/cpu-throttling-and-how-to-fix-it/

 

Links

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor-pro.html
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Thanks for the tips. When the game is slow taskmanager is showing disabled in cpu throttling.

Anyway I clocked down CPU and set memory to default clocks and its still slow.

This is my CPU load when the game is slow, one core is almost full.

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

Thanks for the tips. When the game is slow taskmanager is showing disabled in cpu throttling.

Anyway I clocked down CPU and set memory to default clocks and its still slow.

This is my CPU load when the game is slow, one core is almost full.

 

 

 

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I would advise making a new thread so ppl can help optimise and troubleshoot this for you , as its going into different topic territory to this thread.

 

Provide a clear description of the problem and what steps u have already done to try and resolve it.

 

I would suggest to include a copy of dxdiag.exe output  would be help (its a program on all windows versions) that produces txt file with hardware and driver info

data should be anonymous, but you could just cut and paste relevant info if u want, its not that big a file.(*zip it up with the post, )

 

You can find it by typing the name in the search field on the start menu see below spoiler

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18 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Hi James.  I can tell you that for me it makes a good difference not using Steam VR.  I've got a Rift so I can use OpenComposite but you're using a Pimax I believe so.....whatever SteamVR does.....

 

Not too sure what adjustments SteamVR can do for me anyway.  If I want to adjust SS I know I can do it in OpenComposite or use the Tray Tool.

Are you running IL2 with the standalone launcher? I have it on Steam (I bought some planes on there with a gift card) and Steam VR always launches.

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35 minutes ago, GearheadXII-A said:

Are you running IL2 with the standalone launcher? I have it on Steam (I bought some planes on there with a gift card) and Steam VR always launches.

 

I am running the standalone version but I do know you do not need Steam VR running to run OpenComposite with the Steam version of the game.

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Hello,

I tried to get a picture of the problem I have, but it does not appear on any picture only during the game and only if I fly under 50 maters over land without forest. Over water no problem over forest it is on the forest floor and invisible most of the time. It is like a partial second layer of grass that flickers and precede the plane. Putin the graphics to max or not or FXAA or MXAA does not change anything (except that MXAA reduce my FPS by 50% at least!). Once over 50m altitude this glitch disappears. 

I hope and am certain this shall be resolveld in the next patch, thank to the team for their hard work. :salute:

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To the game developers:

 

I've been flying carrer mode on the Bf 110, but something happened to the tail structural integrity. Upon 4.006 update the tail breaks suddenly without any apparent reason half of the times I fly it. Maybe its some bug with the damage model because with very slight damage on the airplane (and not necessarily on the tail) it just breaks up. I haven't found a reason, because I had not exceeded the G limit, nor the maximum airspeed. It wasn't that way before.

 

Another issue I've found is that 4x and 8x time compression is not working in Carrer and Mission Modes, it only works with Quick Mission Builder. If you have an external view with Cinematic activated it seems that its working correctly, but it's not. To test this, you have to be inside the cockpit and check the clock. If you chrono 1 minute in 2x time compression it delays 30 seconds on real life, but if you chrono on 4x or 8x it's the same time and it shouldn't, it should be less. In QMB it delays 20 secs. and 12 seconds respectively.

 

Please consider this for the next hot-fix.

 

Thank you very much.

 

P.S. You do a magnificent work!!!!

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21 hours ago, flyingfisch said:

What exactly is strange about it? I'm pretty sure I've seen water look like that while I was traveling by plane over the great lakes, here are some pictures of water at sunset:

 

Where on earth you can see two suns - in the Game of course - just look the shadow direction from the trees, we have two. The water has a strange Emboss Effect. 

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41 minutes ago, Jaguar320 said:

To the game developers:

...

Another issue I've found is that 4x and 8x time compression is not working in Carrer and Mission Modes, it only works with Quick Mission Builder. If you have an external view with Cinematic activated it seems that its working correctly, but it's not. To test this, you have to be inside the cockpit and check the clock. If you chrono 1 minute in 2x time compression it delays 30 seconds on real life, but if you chrono on 4x or 8x it's the same time and it shouldn't, it should be less. In QMB it delays 20 secs. and 12 seconds respectively.

...

 

This has been explained before, the ability to actually calculate time acceleration depends heavily on your PC and how many things are occurring in the mission at the same time.

A single plane solo-flight will most likely handle 8x just fine, but as soon as you add a full mission like in the career, you will most likely handle less than that. You can still see 8x on the hud, but it won't really be capable to deliver real 8x.

 

Each person will have different experiences based on PC specs, in-game settings, and other factors.

 

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On 5/20/2020 at 10:01 PM, -=-THERION said:

 

Moin,

 

mir fällt gerade auf, dass diese Artefakte eventuell die Schatten darstellen könnten/sollten - hast Du mal versucht, die Schatten in den Einstellungen auf Mittel oder

Niedrig zu setzen? Wäre ein Versuch wert, oder?

 

 

Hi,

 

I just noticed that the artifacts might be related with the shadows rendering - maybe you could try and change the shadow quality from high to medium or low to

see how it's then? Would be worth trying it, wouldn't be?

 

Cheerio

Hat leider nicht geholfen, aber Danke für die Hilfe

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I had this strange bug while flying in the finnish virtual pilots server, I could hear my guns but the guns were not being shot in the server, but I depleted my 30mm ammo... in the second 0:16 you can see that I am using ammo, so I am not modifying the sound or whatsoever

 

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Hi,
I also fly the career with the Bf-110.
Since the update to 4.006, the rear of the Bf-110 has broken off at low G-loads or for unseen reasons.
Dogfights are no longer possible.

 

In addition, I have found the 5th / NJG200 career with the Bf-110 that from the 20th Mission, the front flight clasp will be awarded for each additional Mission.

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My only request out of this update would be that small ground objects such as gun emplacements, ammo stacks and trucks be made slightly more visible from a distance when they are out in the open.  

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20 minutes ago, Rassmussen said:

In addition, I have found the 5th / NJG200 career with the Bf-110 that from the 20th Mission, the front flight clasp will be awarded for each additional Mission.

 

Thank you, I will have a look at the issue

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11 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

I am running the standalone version but I do know you do not need Steam VR running to run OpenComposite with the Steam version of the game.

Weird. So I setup opencomposite, it downloads DLLs or something and says it's ready. How then do I start IL2? With the .EXE in the steam folder and the graphics set to Enable VR HMD?

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1 hour ago, Rassmussen said:

In addition, I have found the 5th / NJG200 career with the Bf-110 that from the 20th Mission, the front flight clasp will be awarded for each additional Mission.

 

48 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

Thank you, I will have a look at the issue

 

Ok, I found the problem. Hopefully the issue will be fixed in the next update.

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Hi All,

 

I am having graphics issues with my 560RX Radeon. seems to be a common thing since the new update. Please resolve as I cannot play the game anymore.

 

Regards,

 

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24 minutes ago, Warthogaporob said:

Hi All,

 

I am having graphics issues with my 560RX Radeon. seems to be a common thing since the new update. Please resolve as I cannot play the game anymore.

 

Regards,

 

They are working on a fix with AMD. Have you tried switching the AA method and turning off the grass?

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2 hours ago, GearheadXII-A said:

Weird. So I setup opencomposite, it downloads DLLs or something and says it's ready. How then do I start IL2? With the .EXE in the steam folder and the graphics set to Enable VR HMD?

 

You'll certainly need to check the Enable VR HMD box in the graphics settings.  Have a look through this thread;

 

 

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