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4 hours ago, Sybreed said:

Planes I have never seen in career mode:

 

Macchi 202

Ju52

Ju88

P38

P51

 

Not sure if I've seen all the yaks in game.

 

I'm sure there are more that I'm forgetting. 

 

Has anyone seen Me262s?

 

Would it be hard to program their appearance? Feels a bit weird to not utilize these assets. 

 

Now that you are mentioning it, I don't remember seeing P51s or P38s... But I only completed 2 very short German careers in BoBP (I only played the final chapter of each, just 20 missions per career). 

 

I do remember seeing 262s (I even shot one down with a Tempests, that was cool)

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9 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Do you know what happened to the scripted missions when they rebuilt the career mode?

 

I'm not so certain. I never bothered to try the packaged stuff in the Missions tab so I don't know if they were placed there.

 

I didn't miss much of it though. The scripted campaigns provided more value to me.

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5 hours ago, MarderIV said:
14 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Do you know what happened to the scripted missions when they rebuilt the career mode?

 

I'm not so certain. I never bothered to try the packaged stuff in the Missions tab so I don't know if they were placed there.

 

I didn't miss much of it though. The scripted campaigns provided more value to me.

I think Avimimus was talking about the scripted missions, which were part of the old campaign mode. You had to play them to be able to go on with the campaign.

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3 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

I think Avimimus was talking about the scripted missions, which were part of the old campaign mode. You had to play them to be able to go on with the campaign.

 

Yeah that's right. I never tried to see if they were moved elsewhere is what I meant. 

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12 minutes ago, MarderIV said:

 

Yeah that's right. I never tried to see if they were moved elsewhere is what I meant. 

I think they were simply removed like one or two mission types as well. Maybe they didn't fit to the concept anymore.

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I've been playing the BoK camping on the Russian side. So far I've encountered 109's, 190's, Stukas and HS-129's. 

 

The weird thing is, the 109's (G-4), are always equipped with the 20mm gun pods. Was this normal in that theatre?

 

 

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On 6/3/2020 at 6:00 PM, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

Bump.

 

As any of you ever seen a U-2 in a career? Wether you are flying russian (any other plane than a U-2) or german.

 

I really wish there will be a patch in the future to fix some issues about variety.

I've created and IronMan Career in BOS. I flew two hours with my leader, where I was shot down by enemy AAA. It was last time I was flying on hard difficulty.

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On 6/4/2020 at 11:40 PM, Sybreed said:

Planes I have never seen in career mode:

 

Macchi 202

 

I met some recently in a sept 42 9th GAP campaign (over Stalingrad)

Which is not historical

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On 6/4/2020 at 11:55 AM, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

Btw has anyone ever seen an AI flown La5FN in a Kuban career?


As of yet I have not seen an AI flown La5FN, though if I'm not mistaken there is only one unit equipped with them by the end of the career and they are somewhat far from the front which makes their appearance probably unlikely, I have encountered the standard La-5 ser. 8s on a semi regular basis though- primarily around the middle of the front in the airspace of the 3rd GIAP and 293rd IAP out of Abinskaya.

Oddly enough however, I have seen Yak-9s over Novorossiysk fairly recently, so those seem to have been implemented- though this raises some questions as at the time I encountered them the in game date was June 12, 1943 and no Soviet squadrons on the map appeared to be equipped with the Yak-9.

On a somewhat unrelated note/rant, the career treats the Ju-87 Stuka as a bomber along the same lines as the Ju-88 and He-111.
While this seems like it would be relatively fine, the end result is that Stukas are often dispatched to bomb facilities and other primarily static targets far behind enemy lines often with heavy flak defenses- missions which, while not without historical precedent, would be far more suited to higher altitude level bombing craft. 
This issue is compounded by the fact that when you are assigned to escort a bomber flight to a given target as a fighter, the game determines which bomber you will be escorting based only off of the proximity of the nearest bomber squadron. 
As a result of this system I haven't escorted a Ju-88 or an He-111 since Moscow, and in Kuban escorting Stukas far behind the lines through a swarm of hostile fighters and flak guns so they can bomb a supply depot is difficult to say the least, theres little I can do but watch as the flight I'm supposed to be protecting is completely thrashed by AA.

I can't help but feel the Stuka would fare better if the game treated it more as an attack aircraft rather than a bomber, and it was only sent to attack front line positions or supply convoys rather than 40 kilometers into the backlines to hit a factory facility.
Plus, assuming the Stukas manage to actually reach the target, generally only 3 or 4 planes actually drop their bombs (and they don't even go into a steep Stuka style dive to do it) while the rest just fly past harmlessly.
I've never personally flown a Stuka career so it might be somewhat different when the player is involved, but I can't help but groan every time I have to escort them in a Bf-109- which is every single time I receive an escort bombers mission.

This might be just me lol, but has anyone else noticed the general ineptitude of AI Stukas?

Pic related: a flight of Stukas trying to bomb Gelendzhik

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@Ram399, next time you see this odd behavior from Ju 87s, please copy the _gen mission files from /data/missions and post it in the Technicial Issues section of the forum. That's the best way for the guys to see where there may be a problem.

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I'd like to see something besides Tempests flying cover for P-47s as well. I've put about 60 sorties into Bodenplatte German careers.

 

The Tempest is a tough opponent, but in a 109K I can out turn it--only with emergency power on. Because of the difficulty in catching them, I don't shoot down nearly as many as I do of P-47s, which are about as difficult to track and hit as the Spruce Goose. A Spitfire or Mustang would be even more difficult to catch than a Tempest, so if I faced them often (or, at all), it'd drastically reduce my kill-per-sortie average.

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On 6/4/2020 at 5:55 PM, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

 

Btw has anyone ever seen an AI flown La5FN in a Kuban career?

 

Historically they shouldn't be there. Probably they are scripted like the Focke Wulf unit in Stalingrad: only if the players join that unit they will appear.

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I think just as big a problem with Bodenplatte is not just seeing the same aircraft over and over again but seeing the same number of enemy aircraft over and over again.  I have flown the exact same mission 5 times in a row. Provide fighter cover over Njimegen and encountered the same number of A-8s coming from the same direction each time.  

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19 hours ago, Wolfpack345 said:

I come across them quite frequently. 

 

4 hours ago, SamVimes said:

 

Yes, I have fought many in my P-51 career along with quite a few 262's.

 

Great to hear, but in my P-38 career I'm in late 44 (December I think) and I have yet to see one...at least Im starting to see G14s and Ks lately, for a while it was A8 non stop. 

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Has anybody met Damon yet?

 

 

2 hours ago, twilson37 said:

Provide fighter cover over Njimegen and encountered the same number of A-8s coming from the same direction each time.

 

Must be Groundhog Day over at OKL then...

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