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Arados over Normandy?

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The first use of the aircraft in combat took place when the two prototypes V5 and V7 were sent to France on the German base of Juvincourt, in the department of Aisne, on July 25, 1944, to photograph the Allied bridgehead in Normandy, which ordinary reconnaissance planes could no longer do. Only the V5 could be used, the other plane having to return to Germany due to engine problems. Piloted by the Leutnant Erich Sommer, he carried out a first flight over the beaches on August 2, 1944, flying at 9,000 meters at 740 km / h; it was not even detected by Allied hunting. For this mission, two Rb50 / 30 cameras were mounted at the rear of the fuselage, tilted at 12 ° on either side of the aircraft, which made it possible to photograph a strip of ten kilometers wide around the trajectory of the plane. On the same day, the aircraft was joined by the other prototype, and between them they carried out thirteen other missions of this type during the following three weeks. The data they brought back, even if it was of high quality, was of little use to the commanders of the Wehrmacht, who already knew what they were showing: the German forces were clearly outnumbered. In September, the two planes were withdrawn from operations and replaced by the first Ar 234B. The latter operated from October, still in a reconnaissance role, even flying over England, to determine if a new landing was in preparation on the coasts of the Netherlands. It was not until November 21 that a P-51B escort formation first sighted the aircraft. The Arados, seeing themselves discovered, and with the advantage of altitude, dodged taking advantage of their higher speed.

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Thank you so much. I was wondering why it was included in the Battle of Normandy expansion. Do you think we could see reconnaissance equipment outfitted to the aircraft as a modification?

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17 minutes ago, Steel_Arbiter said:

Thank you so much. I was wondering why it was included in the Battle of Normandy expansion. Do you think we could see reconnaissance equipment outfitted to the aircraft as a modification?

I won't be privy to such secrets, you have to ask the developers.😎

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1 hour ago, namhee2 said:

I won't be privy to such secrets, you have to ask the developers.😎

Again thank you for answering my questions. Do you think the developers are open to suggestions on whether the aircraft in question maybe substituted in favor of a different bomber/reconnaissance aircraft?

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^ They are open to reading suggestions, but Jason already addressed this issue in one of the threads a few weeks ago. If I recall correctly it basically was a question of not having enough data/resources to model more relevant or desired planes/versions and thus going for the ones which might not be 100% relevant, but which would bring something fun and interesting to the whole franchise.

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And plus, the Ar 234 is going to be highly relevant for ops on the Rhineland map. It's not some oddball that has no historical relevance to the timeline being simulated.

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7 hours ago, Art-J said:

^ They are open to reading suggestions, but Jason already addressed this issue in one of the threads a few weeks ago. If I recall correctly it basically was a question of not having enough data/resources to model more relevant or desired planes/versions and thus going for the ones which might not be 100% relevant, but which would bring something fun and interesting to the whole franchise.

Thank you for the insight on Jason's response.

 

25 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

And plus, the Ar 234 is going to be highly relevant for ops on the Rhineland map. It's not some oddball that has no historical relevance to the timeline being simulated.

True but would a Ar 234 collector plane make more sense as an separate extension to BoBP than Normandy. I'm not saying the Arado shouldn't come just not yet. But be held off for now with a more relevant aircraft taking it's place. I'm still willing to buy the next expansion even if they do not take my recommendation.

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17 minutes ago, Steel_Arbiter said:

True but would a Ar 234 collector plane make more sense as an separate extension to BoBP than Normandy. I'm not saying the Arado shouldn't come just not yet. But be held off for now with a more relevant aircraft taking it's place. I'm still willing to buy the next expansion even if they do not take my recommendation.

 

You have to look as well at what research material is available to model a particular plane. The Ar 234 has a relatively abundant amount of data available, and with just one crew position it's a relatively easy plane to model in 3D. By contrast, from what I have seen, info on planes like the Ju 188 or Ju 88S is not so readily available. Believe me, I would love to see some late-war German prop bombers as well, but the time needed to model them properly is probably going to be significant.

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5 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

You have to look as well at what research material is available to model a particular plane. The Ar 234 has a relatively abundant amount of data available, and with just one crew position it's a relatively easy plane to model in 3D. By contrast, from what I have seen, info on planes like the Ju 188 or Ju 88S is not so readily available. Believe me, I would love to see some late-war German prob bombers as well, but the time needed to model them properly is probably going to be significant.

Thank you for the insight. I was going to suggested a Ju 88S-1/T-1 but I've been having a hard time finding information online and now I'm guessing there must not be any books on said aircraft variants based on your information. But I feel like if the developers do not procure the resource now, it's highly unlikely to appear later on due to the popularity of said aircraft compared to a Arado 234 popularity.

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