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9 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said:

 

Can you provide a link to anyone actually saying that?

If you are on other groups and sites. You would know that Corsair no matter version is about as popular as pixels in a computer ever can be. 
People with any knowledge to ED knows that whatever said on their part do not mean it going to happened. When you press buy button you know you got the corsair. But you do not know if anything else related to pacific will. You might get offered a Cessna next

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9 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Nah, you guys will have fun...I'm happy for you.

 

Fly an airshow in Vegas, buzz the Strip, go sight-seeing over Normandy, practice formation flying with Spitfires or some Hueys, fly another Air Show in Guam and take part in a Legacy Flight with an F-18, then park next to the F-16's and B-52's stationed there.

What's not to like?

That sounds perfect to me, after over a decade of pretending to shoot at stuff I need a change.

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1 hour ago, No.322_LuseKofte said:

If you are on other groups and sites. You would know that Corsair no matter version is about as popular as pixels in a computer ever can be. 
People with any knowledge to ED knows that whatever said on their part do not mean it going to happened. When you press buy button you know you got the corsair. But you do not know if anything else related to pacific will. You might get offered a Cessna next

 

I wouldn't mind a Cessna. That's why I bought the Yak-52.  It's a fun little plane.

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39 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

I wouldn't mind a Cessna. That's why I bought the Yak-52.  It's a fun little plane.

Yak 52 is great. There are a few owning it for real that fly it in DCS. They are pretty positive when they compare real and virtual

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4 hours ago, No.322_LuseKofte said:

If you are on other groups and sites. You would know that Corsair no matter version is about as popular as pixels in a computer ever can be. 
People with any knowledge to ED knows that whatever said on their part do not mean it going to happened. When you press buy button you know you got the corsair. But you do not know if anything else related to pacific will. You might get offered a Cessna next

There is nothing, zero (no pun), nada on the DCS horizon, and that stretches into decades, in regards to WW2 pacific. The F4u and its assets, carrier ai zero, are a one off. All 3rd parties have their roadmaps set. Even leatherneck, the maker of the F4u, have the F8 next. ED have said that western Europe is their WW2 theatre and have no intention of moving it to the pacific. If they did you would still be looking at 10 years in the future considering how long it's taking them to get the 109, 190, spitfire out. Not to mention the P47 and 262. The only hope for a fully realised WW2 pacific theatre in DCS is a brand new 3rd party. Not going to happen in our lifetimes. 

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Well I'm still holding my breath for an F-104.

 

Ya gotta dream, baby.  :cool:

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47 minutes ago, Rolling_Thunder said:

The only hope for a fully realised WW2 pacific theatre in DCS is a brand new 3rd party. Not going to happen in our lifetimes. 

I given that idea up too. I use ww 2 modules for fsx kind of flight inbetween chopper flying

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9 hours ago, Archie said:

That sounds perfect to me, after over a decade of pretending to shoot at stuff I need a change.

 

I know that feeling.  I get much more of a kick out of formation flying with the chaps than 'kersplosions these days:)

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is it posible to play a modern jet in dcs no spending any money?

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17 minutes ago, raaaid said:

is it posible to play a modern jet in dcs no spending any money?

The SU-25 or the A-4. Those are the only free jets that I know of.

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I have feeling the next DCS ww2 map will include fjords just  because of the mosquito. Just a feeling. So if LN were to include a clipped wing corsair in their package it would have a home. Just a feeling and wishful thinking.

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6 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

Well I'm still holding my breath for an F-104.

 

Ya gotta dream, baby.  :cool:

 

Here's my problem.

I don't have the time in my life to actually learn how to fly a modern jet.

I want just enough complexity so that I can pretend that I know how to fly an F-16 and operate it's systems, without actually having to know how to operate all it's systems.

The latter is sounds great in theory, and it's all...you know "hard core" and stuff, but 'life' doesn't allow for this...it just doesn't. Maybe if I was single and nothing better to do.

 

I used to study the Su-27 and F-16 systems on my lunch breaks at work back in the day before going home to practice what I read about...it was like taking a college class.

I just cant' do that anymore

 

So something like the MiG 15 is right up my alley...in theory.

I need at least a fully populated air show if not a Korea map and assets. 

 

Someday down the road I may get the F-14, but I doubt it. It's another "great in theory" equation for me .

The reality is that the novelty will wear off, and I'll forget all my key binds, procedures etc after letting it go for a few weeks and trying to fly it again...like I see happen to others on here over and over and over again with just about every DCS aircraft.

 

So basically WWII is my jam, and even that I don't have time to fly right now.

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1 hour ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Here's my problem.

I don't have the time in my life to actually learn how to fly a modern jet.

I want just enough complexity so that I can pretend that I know how to fly an F-16 and operate it's systems, without actually having to know how to operate all it's systems.

The latter is sounds great in theory, and it's all...you know "hard core" and stuff, but 'life' doesn't allow for this...it just doesn't. Maybe if I was single and nothing better to do.

 

I used to study the Su-27 and F-16 systems on my lunch breaks at work back in the day before going home to practice what I read about...it was like taking a college class.

I just cant' do that anymore

 

So something like the MiG 15 is right up my alley...in theory.

I need at least a fully populated air show if not a Korea map and assets. 

 

Someday down the road I may get the F-14, but I doubt it. It's another "great in theory" equation for me .

The reality is that the novelty will wear off, and I'll forget all my key binds, procedures etc after letting it go for a few weeks and trying to fly it again...like I see happen to others on here over and over and over again with just about every DCS aircraft.

 

So basically WWII is my jam, and even that I don't have time to fly right now.

 

You're kinda talking about the low fidelity planes in DCS, and they are perfect for me. I would prefer all low fidelity planes, but they don't make them.

 

I don't use the high fidelity DCS modules I have in a high fidelity way. I get just deep enough into them to have fun, which is why I only buy them on sale. I want fifty maps and fifty planes and the ability to just tool around in whatever is enjoyable at the moment. I just want to fly for the fun of it. As for your statement, ". . . it was like taking a college class", that's exactly(!) how I feel about the BOX _________ __________, and why, even with the endless patience you and others have shown, I never use it. It's simply no fun at all, and I have no inclination to spend my flighstim time not having fun. I do however use the __________ ___________ in DCS all the time.

 

Like you I prefer the WWII stuff, but as a lifelong sandbox flyer, I like the variety. And with BOX and DCS, we got variety. Throw in FS2020 and it will be fat city for flying fun.

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On 1/7/2020 at 4:42 PM, Gambit21 said:

 

Here's my problem.

I don't have the time in my life to actually learn how to fly a modern jet.

I want just enough complexity so that I can pretend that I know how to fly an F-16 and operate it's systems, without actually having to know how to operate all it's systems.

The latter is sounds great in theory, and it's all...you know "hard core" and stuff, but 'life' doesn't allow for this...it just doesn't. Maybe if I was single and nothing better to do.

 

I used to study the Su-27 and F-16 systems on my lunch breaks at work back in the day before going home to practice what I read about...it was like taking a college class.

I just cant' do that anymore

 

So something like the MiG 15 is right up my alley...in theory.

I need at least a fully populated air show if not a Korea map and assets. 

 

Someday down the road I may get the F-14, but I doubt it. It's another "great in theory" equation for me .

The reality is that the novelty will wear off, and I'll forget all my key binds, procedures etc after letting it go for a few weeks and trying to fly it again...like I see happen to others on here over and over and over again with just about every DCS aircraft.

 

So basically WWII is my jam, and even that I don't have time to fly right now.

 

I can relate to where you are coming from.

I have a ridiculous number of hours put into the Hornet now, learning all it's systems to hopefully someday be able to competently fly and fight in it.

It has both been fun ride so far, but a frustrating one at the same time. I am getting there though and determined to see it through. About all I have left is the weapons  and countermeasures systems. 

And of course there is IL-2 which is my # 1 so I put more time in it which takes away from my learning time on the Hornet. Spent about 3 hours with the Hornet yesterday and about 4 hours flying my IL-2 Career today.

 

However I have the benefit of being old and  retired with a lot of time on my hands, but even with that it is still taking me quite a long time. I suppose I would get there a lot quicker if not for IL-2, but that won't happen. Plus last week I ended up playing Asgard's Wrath all week which did not help...

 

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The cool thing about the F-16 is that it's an airplane for dummies (like me): Throw a hand full of switches and you're going.

Just put everything in the forward/upward/outboard position and you're pretty much good to go. That's literally how I start the MiG-21, BTW.

 

Seriously: The F-16 is quite easy to learn if you skip the BITs and all the stuff you don't have to worry about if you can't die for real.

The F-18, however, is a royal pain in the butt. You can also launch without a lot of switches thrown, but the weapons are a lot of keystroking.

It's got nice, big colour MFDs, though. And that greek-letter. What's it called? I believe it's called ALPHA.

 

Don't you just like parking at 50° AoA, reading 60KCAS on the HUD and walking the jet with the throttles?

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That's one reason I life the F5E. The panel is like operating an old oven. I get to break the sound barrier and launch missiles and don't feel like I have reset an iPod while doing it. And it can land on carriers and has a drag chute system for landing. I love that stuff.

 

The Harrier is more complicated, but kinda straight forward and with enough techno to make it cool. And the hovering thing is just too much fun.

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Im starting to suspect that Pacfic news will be overshadowed, today!

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On 1/7/2020 at 10:26 AM, CanadaOne said:

Well I'm still holding my breath for an F-104.

 

Ya gotta dream, baby.  :cool:

Someone just needs to mod an AMRAAM to be pilotable, then you got a Missile with a Man In It. 
/more survivable than flying F-104s 

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2 hours ago, Sharpe43 said:

Im starting to suspect that Pacfic news will be overshadowed, today!

I just checked the DCS forum for the weekly update news letter.  It is a lengthy one and it does include some Pacific map news and more information on WW11 damage model and the Channel map time period of 1939 to 1945.

 

The real question  is how many years before release and the proper plane set for 1939 to 1945?

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26 minutes ago, Taxman said:

The real question  is how many years before release and the proper plane set for 1939 to 1945?

 

Knowing DCS´s pace when it comes to releases, this is avalid question. I guess they didn´t call it "DCS World 2020 and Beyond" for nothing... 🤣

Don´t get me wrong, I´m glad they do that Channel map and I´m looking forward to it, but I don´t think it will drop this year. A complete plane set? Who knows...

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It's a flightsim, we have access to it now, it does a lot of pretty cool things in an enjoyable way, and if people don't like it they can fly a variety of high-fidelity planes over multiple maps with really nice eye candy in that other sim over at itdoesntexist.com.

 

 

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That new map announced for Delay Combat Simulator is dissapointing. It's not free so it will divide furthermore the player base. The area is too small, most action was on the South or inland for the V-2 sites. Instead of trying to gather more players they end up doing what many people say, turning in circles gathering cash in the process. It is not that I dislike it but it is not the saviour many believe it is. It could be fun but reality is this.

 

This is the detailed map area
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Sorry, but no wonder sim with allmighty B-17s and long range or superduper Pacific everybody wants. There is only one real sim in the park now with the ww2 combat theme, maybe Tobruk later and it will be two.

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Look at the detail and textures on the map. That's pretty damn good.

 

 

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Now that is a map crying out for a Spit mk 1 and an emil😎

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There'll be kurfürst over the white cliffs of Dover. I dont get why they dont make a map for the available aircraft?

They have the 2 iconic korean war aircraft and they ignore them. 2 new maps, a missed opportunity.

The channel map? Why not a rheinland to go with the WW2 planeset? I just don't get it, sure it looks good but c'mon. There are no "late 30s" aircraft.

Who the f**k comes up with these ideas?

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1 hour ago, DD_Arthur said:

Now that is a map crying out for a Spit mk 1 and an emil😎

 

Bonus points if anyone can guess what airfield that is. :) 

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So they have the Normandy Map, and now a Channel Map? Don't those two cover the same ground in a few places? You'd think they'd spread it out a bit, or make a map for the planes they have in game. This seems odd to me...but it does look very nice.

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19 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

So they have the Normandy Map, and now a Channel Map? Don't those two cover the same ground in a few places? You'd think they'd spread it out a bit, or make a map for the planes they have in game. This seems odd to me...but it does look very nice.

 

Well, for one, the distance between UK and France is quite different. I have flown DCS missions where I took off from UK and escorted B-17's to Caen and it does take a lot more time than I thought to cross the Channel. It shouldn't be a problem for SP missions, but for MP I predict a Channel Map focusing around Dover / Calais will be a lot more popular than the current DCS Normandy map!

 

It's good that the proposed map for IL2 covers more area to the North East of Normandy for this very reason.

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37 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

Bonus points if anyone can guess what airfield that is. :) 

Yep. It’s Detling. Pity they’ve given Manston a concrete runway.  That makes it ‘44

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Apparently the map gets a 30% pre-order discount in February. With ground textures like that I'm definitely in.

 

 

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S! 

 

Will definitely get the map. Also buying the P-47D. It looks marvellous. Good to have options. Going Vulkan also is interesting, never have enough performance :)

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13 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

Look at the detail and textures on the map. That's pretty damn good.

 

 

That single screenshot represents Europe far much better than the entire BOBP map.

 

Talking about details...

C'est magnifique.

 

Oh dear.jpg

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I was wondering if they were getting help from ORBX.

 

A map like that will beat the sh-t out of our hardware, but I don't care. With FS2020 coming, and the possibility of multiple cores CPU being utilized, a bunch of us will be finding the cash to get a honking good CPU. Maybe a 3900X is a good idea. :biggrin:

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Just mentioned it because they have alluded to helping with other sims, perhaps not just FSX, X-11, and FS2.

 

Let them help out here, I'll buy it!

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On 1/10/2020 at 8:43 PM, CanadaOne said:

Look at the detail and textures on the map. That's pretty damn good.

It‘s a pretty damn small map. I‘m honestly not very impressed by getting the same flat napkin over and over again. Yes, it has more colors since Their Finest Hour, but you cannot do thing you couldn’t do back then. In that price range, that‘s not what you want for 2020. For that price.

 

And yes, they are great in making screenshots and even way more great in making videos.

 

But looking at FS2020, this looks like Pong.

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25 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

It‘s a pretty damn small map. I‘m honestly not very impressed by getting the same flat napkin over and over again. Yes, it has more colors since Their Finest Hour, but you cannot do thing you couldn’t do back then. In that price range, that‘s not what you want for 2020. For that price.

 

And yes, they are great in making screenshots and even way more great in making videos.

 

But looking at FS2020, this looks like Pong.

 

:fool:

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Looking at fs2020 I think that we are more likely looking at napkins and... Pong! With DCS World and il-2 maps we can at least interact in some ways, destroy, move stuff! The fs2020 maps... Wait and see if those are not only great looking placeholders. Dunno for sure of course, but I would not be at all surprised ! I have seen too many truly dead scenery in sims. At least the TC map is nothing like that. 

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