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On 5/17/2020 at 9:39 PM, Arthur-A said:

 

Can other game replicate this?

There are many other things, FM, DM, AI, absence of "miracle timers", etc.

 

It looks very pretty.  Always sunny and clear skies in CLOD-land though.  It would be nice to see the same test in heavy cloud.

 

I do wonder what will happen in VR with it looking that and with clouds and functioning AI.  I may need to play in a freezer to keep my pc cool.

 

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On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2020 at 5:10 PM, Dagwoodyt said:

What gear?

I got lost in the VR discussion. I'm already committed to buying all Cliffs stuff--whether it's VR-capable or not. I just like it's atmospherics (and can't wait for new weather), and the way TFS has worked from the start. A potential gem was saved.

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7 hours ago, buster_dee said:

I got lost in the VR discussion. I'm already committed to buying all Cliffs stuff--whether it's VR-capable or not. I just like it's atmospherics (and can't wait for new weather), and the way TFS has worked from the start. A potential gem was saved.

Still unclear as to what gear you would buy for TF 5.0 that you wouldn't buy for CloD 4.57 or whatever. Just as well not to get hung up over any potential VR upgrade. As far as I can tell the GUI can't be upgraded and a one-click record function is unattainable. If you are happy with those as is you are in luck. I cannot imagine how those GUI idiosyncrasies would be tolerable for VR users.

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Next gen video card and, with all this VR talk, I might take the plunge regardless of what Cliffs does. As I said, I will continue to like Cliffs and support TFS. I have nothing against BoX: 777 is a tremendous team, but Cliff's atmospherics look more 'right' to my eye-candy eye, and TFS seems to be preserving that look.

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4 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

Still unclear as to what gear you would buy for TF 5.0 that you wouldn't buy for CloD 4.57 or whatever. Just as well not to get hung up over any potential VR upgrade. As far as I can tell the GUI can't be upgraded and a one-click record function is unattainable. If you are happy with those as is you are in luck. I cannot imagine how those GUI idiosyncrasies would be tolerable for VR users.

Which doesn't reflect TF's statements at all. Those could be summed up: "It's a lot of very doable work which we don't have time for yet but will engage after 5.0 has been commercial success"

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2 hours ago, buster_dee said:

Next gen video card and, with all this VR talk, I might take the plunge regardless of what Cliffs does. As I said, I will continue to like Cliffs and support TFS. I have nothing against BoX: 777 is a tremendous team, but Cliff's atmospherics look more 'right' to my eye-candy eye, and TFS seems to be preserving that look.

Not sure why a "next gen" video card would be required for TF 5.0. I am still using a 1080Ti. Would that card be inadequate to run TF 5.0?

 

1 hour ago, Eisenfaustus said:

Which doesn't reflect TF's statements at all. Those could be summed up: "It's a lot of very doable work which we don't have time for yet but will engage after 5.0 has been commercial success"

 "Commercial success" is more achievable when based upon having enabled enhancements that make a product more accessible to a larger audience than those already invested.  If OTOH "commercial success" is defined as making TF 5.0 acceptable to those users still active in CloD then VR, updated GUI, one-click "record" capability and a DCG might not be worth the expense, assuming they are even possible. "Doable" is irrelevant until "done".

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Hallo an alle,

ich habe ein neues System gebaut, Prozessor Ryzen 9, Grafikkarte MSI RTX 2070 S,

HP Reverb: Das Bild ist sehr scharf, klar in der Auflösung. Fliegengitter sind nicht mehr erkennbar.                                                                                                                                      Aber 2 Dinge stören:

1. Der FoV ist sehr klein, genau wie die erste Generation.
2. Der "Fokus"-Punkt, d.h. der "süße" Punkt, ist noch kleiner als in der ersten Generation.
Bei der höchsten Auflösung bekomme ich Track Ir ca 160 - 180 fps, mit der HP Reverb zwischen 45 und 90 fps. nur, war mich über den Reverb stört, hat es ein kleines Fenster, in dem Sie deutlich sehen kann.

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45 minutes ago, III./ZG15_Siggie said:

Hallo an alle,

ich habe ein neues System gebaut, Prozessor Ryzen 9, Grafikkarte MSI RTX 2070 S,

HP Reverb: Das Bild ist sehr scharf, klar in der Auflösung. Fliegengitter sind nicht mehr erkennbar.                                                                                                                                      Aber 2 Dinge stören:

1. Der FoV ist sehr klein, genau wie die erste Generation.
2. Der "Fokus"-Punkt, d.h. der "süße" Punkt, ist noch kleiner als in der ersten Generation.
Bei der höchsten Auflösung bekomme ich Track Ir ca 160 - 180 fps, mit der HP Reverb zwischen 45 und 90 fps. nur, war mich über den Reverb stört, hat es ein kleines Fenster, in dem Sie deutlich sehen kann.

 

Ich habe das selbe Problem mit meiner Reverb G1, in der Mitte sehr scharf, ab 45° nach aussen wird das Bild unscharf und ich erkenne chromatische Abration (siehe unten, das obere Bild ist in der mitte des Display fotografiert, das darunterliegende Bild zeigt den rechten Rand des rechten Auge).


Ich habe den HP Support kontaktiert und nach einigem hin und her wurde mir gesagt, dies sei der Bauart des VR-Headsets geschuldet und kein Fehler an meiner Einheit. Zuvor hatte ich eine Oculus CV1 und obwohl ich den Umstieg auf die Reverb nicht bereue, bin ich etwas enttäuscht und hoffe auf eine Verbesserung der Bildschärfe und optischen Qualität ausserhalb der Bildmitte in der nächsten Generation.

 

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On 5/24/2020 at 1:18 PM, III./ZG15_Siggie said:

Hallo an alle,

ich habe ein neues System gebaut, Prozessor Ryzen 9, Grafikkarte MSI RTX 2070 S,

HP Reverb: Das Bild ist sehr scharf, klar in der Auflösung. Fliegengitter sind nicht mehr erkennbar.                                                                                                                                      Aber 2 Dinge stören:

1. Der FoV ist sehr klein, genau wie die erste Generation.
2. Der "Fokus"-Punkt, d.h. der "süße" Punkt, ist noch kleiner als in der ersten Generation.
Bei der höchsten Auflösung bekomme ich Track Ir ca 160 - 180 fps, mit der HP Reverb zwischen 45 und 90 fps. nur, war mich über den Reverb stört, hat es ein kleines Fenster, in dem Sie deutlich sehen kann.

 

German Forum is here https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/23-deutsches-forum/ and here is not corner for support of VR mode and any problems because Blitz doesnt use VR mode 😄 .... I hope yet! :)

 

On 5/24/2020 at 1:47 PM, ACG_crane said:

..... ausserhalb der Bildmitte in der nächsten Generation.

 

In the Gen2 of Reverb will be better with this.

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Ok, so release very  soon, I know, not VR yet but will it planned more than likely ;)? What is mean "succes"?

I fly ONLY VR (no VR = no joy for me). Id like to support this tittle but it will be very nice to have promise about VR implemantation in the next for example half a year ;).

 

I remember it was sentence about some 2D gauges in Today's CoD/Blitz - its not a big problem, in Prepar3D some of addons use 2D gauges, in 3D environment it looks still ok, maybe not perfect like 3D gauges but it looks still ok (this can be improved in the future by patches). It will be big jump of CoD/Tobruk to the future and Todays standards - simulator with support of VR (like IL-2 BoX, DCS, P3D, new MFS2020 ect). It will be new life for CoD/Blitz/Tobruk and it will be totally different (and better) immersion. VR means = more customers also.

 

Fingers crossed for this, CoD/Blitz was on my top list and now all planes stayed in hangar here from the long time :bye:.

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On 3/4/2020 at 7:52 PM, Arthur-A said:

Most people are playing BoX on a flat screen, I'm sure a lot of people will enjoy CloD when they realize that the game is constantly being developed and updated.

I will fly it as soon as I can find my trackir

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8 hours ago, YoYo said:

Ok, so release very  soon, I know, not VR yet but will it planned more than likely ;)? What is mean "succes"?

I fly ONLY VR (no VR = no joy for me). Id like to support this tittle but it will be very nice to have promise about VR implemantation in the next for example half a year ;).

 

I remember it was sentence about some 2D gauges in Today's CoD/Blitz - its not a big problem, in Prepar3D some of addons use 2D gauges, in 3D environment it looks still ok, maybe not perfect like 3D gauges but it looks still ok (this can be improved in the future by patches). It will be big jump of CoD/Tobruk to the future and Todays standards - simulator with support of VR (like IL-2 BoX, DCS, P3D, new MFS2020 ect). It will be new life for CoD/Blitz/Tobruk and it will be totally different (and better) immersion. VR means = more customers also.

 

Fingers crossed for this, CoD/Blitz was on my top list and now all planes stayed in hangar here from the long time :bye:.

All you really need now is CloD/Blitz. If you don't have it this would be the time to pick up a copy @$6.24. Then just wait until a VR implementation is added to Blitz.

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Got IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Blitz Edition running on my rift s using Oculus Tray Tool v0.86.4.0Steam Virtual Desktop and Opentrack Head tracking it looks cool

Run Oculus Tray Tool v0.86.4.0 with settings

 

 

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 Run Oculus software

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Run IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Blitz with settings 

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 Running on Oculus rift s in VR not bad at all

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13 hours ago, MP995martinl said:

Got IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Blitz Edition running on my rift s using Oculus Tray Tool v0.86.4.0Steam Virtual Desktop and Opentrack Head tracking it looks cool

Run Oculus Tray Tool v0.86.4.0 with settings

 

 

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 Run Oculus software

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Run Opentrack with settings

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Run Virtual Desktop

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Virtual Desktop settings

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Run IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Blitz with settings 

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 Running on Oculus rift s in VR not bad at all

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If you are seeing a VR image in your hmd why do you need Opentrack?

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23 minutes ago, MP995martinl said:

it is the only way i could get it to work i am still testing new ways to get it to work Vorpx is to expensive R 682.73 for us in SA to the dollar.

Could be you are just seeing a 2d image in your hmd. I am guessing that the novelty will soon wear thin.

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I do possess "Cliffs of Dover" since the very first day of its release, March the 31st, 2011. I ended up by uninstalling the game at some point in the course of 2011, but reinstalled it several times since. I updated my game up to the BLITZ version last year and, this time, didn't unistall it again. I find BLITZ is very satisfactory and I look forward to the "Desert Wings - Tobruk" add-on release. Since yesterday, experienced French virtual pilots of the OBT squadron are teaching me how to fly a Hurricane. Engine start sequence, taxiing, takeoff, ammunition ballistics... all of this is real hardcore simulation. I LOVE IT.

 

A few bugs are still a bit annoying, but my overall judgement on that game is that "Cliffs of Dover" is the best WWII combat flight simulator ever. We are no longer in 2011. Those few remaining bugs are insignificant compared to the quality of that simulation. I'm very happy with the "Great Battles" series but IL2GB bears no comparison with IL2CloDo when it comes to historical accuracy and hardcore simulation.

 

I use a TracKIR 5, not VR. I'll buy "Desert Wings - Tobruk" for sure, there's no doubt of this.

 

I address to Team Fusion the following wish: even if I do not have intentions of buying a VR device... after the release of Tobruk, please, focus your efforts and energy on the implementation of VR on BLITZ so that all of these debates are left behind us and some VR fans... leave us alone...

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On 7/28/2020 at 2:51 AM, Buzzsaw said:

As mentioned, whatever the percentage of VR users, TF would still like to implement VR.

 

Wouldn't mind seeing how it looks myself... might spring for a headset.  😉

 

I advice to try it Buzz (with IL-2 BoX for example) with headset with good resolution. Its totaly different impressions. I started to use VR from 11.2019 and I dont to back to flat, poor imersion with 2D monitor. I love it now but before my HP Reverb I was very critical of VR headsets and only used Track IR. Now I cant imagine to fly without this. A lot of better and Im inside of the cockpit and the game! :good: Thx for good info!

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21 minutes ago, YoYo said:

 

I advice to try it Buzz (with IL-2 BoX for example) with headset with good resolution. Its totaly different impressions. I started to use VR from 11.2019 and I dont to back to flat, poor imersion with 2D monitor. I love it now but before my HP Reverb I was very critical of VR headsets and only used Track IR. Now I cant imagine to fly without this. A lot of better and Im inside of the cockpit and the game! :good: Thx for good info!

How much better is the Reverb? I am using the O+ and ordered the G2. Hope plane spotting is much better...Also plan on getting a 3080ti to upgrade from my 1080ti. Should be awesome..I hope🤔

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13 hours ago, CDRSEABEE said:

How much better is the Reverb? I am using the O+ and ordered the G2. Hope plane spotting is much better...Also plan on getting a 3080ti to upgrade from my 1080ti. Should be awesome..I hope🤔

 

 

A friend of mine is a VR fanatic and he recently replaced his old Oculus Rift with an HP Reverb. I've already tried several times the Oculus before... and when I used my friend's Reverb, trust me, I clearly noticed the difference. The Reverb is, in all fairness, a real improvement in terms of image resolution.

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1 hour ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

A friend of mine is a VR fanatic and he recently replaced his old Oculus Rift with an HP Reverb. I've already tried several times the Oculus before... and when I used my friend's Reverb, trust me, I clearly noticed the difference. The Reverb is, in all fairness, a real improvement in terms of image resolution.

I had a Rift too. The O+ was a big improvement over the Rift. The O+ is not bad. Just hoping for another big improvement. Sounds like it will be.

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On 7/28/2020 at 8:51 AM, Buzzsaw said:

As mentioned, whatever the percentage of VR users, TF would still like to implement VR.

 

Wouldn't mind seeing how it looks myself... might spring for a headset.  😉

I'm very pleased to read this. 

I have had CloD for a long time, but have not played it as it doesn't have VR support. I have TrackIR too but cannot use it properly on my PC for now.

I really want VR support for CloD and Tobruk! 

On 7/7/2020 at 7:03 AM, Langemannmartinl said:

Got IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Blitz Edition running on my rift s using Oculus Tray Tool v0.86.4.0Steam Virtual Desktop and Opentrack Head tracking it looks cool

Run Oculus Tray Tool v0.86.4.0 with settings

 

 

 

This is awesome! Thank you for posting this news and procedure.

I have the Oculus Rift S too, and want to play CloD in VR. 😄

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23 hours ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

"Joe Stricklin I watched one of them. He said VR is imminent. Well see."

 

I copied-pasted the above from a comment posted yesterday in the evening at the TFS's Facebook.

 

What does it mean? I don't know that guy, Joe Stricklin, and can't join him as I don't have any FB account.

Wolfpack345 on Youtube. He also said winter 2021 it was coming. Not sure where he is getting his info from.

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Latest time set for VR is 2021. Buzza said it is possible but will take time. 
He also urged to give good reviews on steam. Because if 5.0 is not successful, it wont be continued. 
I can understand that statement, the heavy workload they had getting 5.0 must have been exhausting 

Personally I do not miss VR. I rather buy two new screens one for instrument

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On 8/10/2020 at 2:47 PM, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Latest time set for VR is 2021. Buzza said it is possible but will take time. 
He also urged to give good reviews on steam. Because if 5.0 is not successful, it wont be continued. 
I can understand that statement, the heavy workload they had getting 5.0 must have been exhausting 

Personally I do not miss VR. I rather buy two new screens one for instrument

 

 

Understood, thank you for your response.

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On 7/28/2020 at 2:51 AM, Buzzsaw said:

Wouldn't mind seeing how it looks myself... might spring for a headset.  😉

It has advantages. Great feeling being inside the cockpit. But it is not very comfortable. 
However I miss it the most when wanting to lean forward to look at the instruments in the wellington.  Other than that I can live without it

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Guys, I hate for break in here but I am back after 6 years and frustrated to find on Steam a listing of forum, or seach for them to get to IL-2 Sturmovik Form from where I get these missives by sub.

 

I am trying to connect to a community that is engaged in the IL-2 efforts to read and learn. Please...

 

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