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The mixture does make a difference. But mountain flying is something with that bird. If you make use of the wind to carry you, you are always at risk that this very wind can exceed the strenght of the airframe...


This plane is fun!

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21 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

Lost planes after last update. They are in the content manager as uninstalled. And update 0mb until I restart the game , then I can dl it again. But still say uninstalled. It is bought modules like the L 19. Yet I have the Bleriot. In the markedplaced it say I own them. And they worked before


These are planes you bought through the market place?

 I had this problem recently.

 I’m not at my pc but from memory you have to navigate your way to the folder where they reside in your game.

They will not be in your community folder.

Once you find them you can delete them and then restart the game and they will be available to download again in your content manager.

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Some more Blériot flying.


Now I used the supposedly difficult to fly Channel Flight "RIP" edition. While it is drastically underpowered and weighting more than 40 kg creats overweight should you consider bringing along an engine. Never mind fuel in reasonable quantity.


While it is true that the aircraft is handicapped in controls, it is actually simple to fly as such if you can make your peace with the fact that the only control you can use is the rudder. If you think of that aircraft as the very, very beginner type of RC model with only rudder control, then it becomes straight forward to use. This mainly due to the fact that the programmers put the aircraft in trim such, that the one and only position of the elevator control is neutral stick position. Hence, even this aircraft can well be flown hands off. It is actually best that way. But I do have serious doubts that even with perfect rigging, "neutral" elevator doesn't create a stick force, namely a stick back force.


If the tailplane is rigged correctly, I agree with the implementation of this brid that, level flight is achieved with "center position" of the stick. There are many pictures of Blériots taking off or landing that have deflected elevator surfaces, like this one:




This is the late Javier Arango piloting a homebuilt version (built 1911!) of the Blériot XI. See here.




This is an old picture from the Shuttlewoth Collection Blériot, from a time where they flew more than just straight down the runway. Note, also this one features elevator up significantly. I would say that both pictures are taken during the final flair in landing the aircraft.




Here, monsieur himself, flying an incredible 6 minutes at an amazing 40 meters altitude. One can see that the outer elevator parts are flush with the stabylo. A photo I have of him, taken from a ship during his channel flight, also shows the elevator being flush.


Some say that it is best taking off this aircraft by pushing forward and accelleratin in the ground effect until "safe" airspeed is reached. At least in this addon, I very much advise against that practise, as you make the aircraft fly out of trim. What works best (and makes the aircraft easy to fly once you get used to the rudder that handles the aircraft in flight as we have the Spit do it on the ground in this sim) is just don't touch the stick at all. Move it away and just let it go. The RIP edition will fly itself off at some point, and all you have to do is keep direction with the rudder. It will automatically accellerate in ground effect, as it cannot outclimb ground effect altitude, until sufficient airspeed is reached. You have no instruments, nothing to tell you about the plane. You cannot trim the plane either, but conveniently enough, default neutral stick position is the trim for the best (and only possible) flight speed. Pushing forward will make you go too fast. Pulling has no purpose in this aircraft anyway except flair out in landing.


A propos landing, we need proper devices for that:




Make no mistake, this cable can be used for landing and take off. Adolphe Pégoud though this was a great idea and demonstrated how it is done. This was thought as an alternative to a patch of grass, should that not be available. Him being French, it must have confused the English considerably, as he got extremely popular in London and Paris. I'm just trying to think where exactly in England or France you cannot find a flat patch of grass. And where you'd still want to venture with such a crate.


Anyway, I gave it a try to do some more world flying, Blériot edition. From Krueger Park Airport to Maputo. Reasonably close, no mountains in between that I can remember. Sure, @Dakpilot would know better. Still, on the map it shows that it is out of the range. But there's some airstrip in between. I'll gas up there. But these aircraft are meant for just one way to operate them: "I have no idea, let's try."




Taking off went reasonably well, given I am obscenely overweight, about 200% or so. Filling the tank excludes having a pilot on board. But be it. I have a very hard time entering more than 70 kg for the pilot, but it dn't want to cheat. Full tank. Live weather.


Whoo-hoo, it lifts off readily, but then... it remains in the ground effect. I just let it hover and it gets faster... but you see those treeline at the end of the runway. They had to collect me from such a tree.


2nd try. This time I was careful about chosing the smaller trees to overfly. It worked.




The problem is now that passing the perimeter of the airport, you're going over a drop into a shallow valley that is home to town like Broedersvrede, Nyamazaneni, Daantjie etc. A bunch of settlements grown together. What whorries me is whether I make it across the ridge ahead. I have no instrumentation, but it is late afternoon. If I keep the shadow of the rigging projecting ahead, I should be venturing east. And there is no way out in that direction but crossing that ridge ahead of me.


Hands off the stick, keeping the aircraft on course with the rudder, I venture on, hoping for the best.


There is this old joke (I heard it in the guise of a joke about the Polish) about an advice the mother would give her daughter, saying that if there's absolutely nothing she could do about it, she might as lie well back and enjoy it. I think this largely covers flying the Blériot as well. 




I barely make it across that ridge, updrafts have been helpful. Eventually and over time I even make some altitude.




I finally can make out FAMN - Malelane airport. But as I still have some drops of fuel left and have an almost obscene amout of altitude, hence I venture ahead. There's another airstrip down the way, Komatipoort Airport (FULB).




What airport? I am struggling with reading my printed maps and I am sure I must be right overhead that "airport". I just can't see it. At some point I just decide that this patch of grass must be it and I throttle back to make for landing. Oops. Throttling back makes the engine cut such that it can't be reasonably restarted. No matter. The Blériot is so slow, you can just circle directly over your seleted fairway and once you're down, just straighten out and you're there. Where am I? Hic sunt leones, I guess...




I restart with full fuel, selecting the airport as departure where I assumed I did the landing. Lo and Behold, looking over my shoulder, I just came down next to the runway on that slope next to those trees.




Indeed, looking back after take off, it is in that clearing on the other side of the trees lining the "runway". All hands off flying. There are several hills that surround this place, all uncrossable. Getting around the trees is problematic enough.




But once I am clear, I just can let it fly... fly.... And I make some altitude. Past these hills must be Maputo. It shold be easy to find, as large of a place as it is.




Indeed. The airport is just ahead of the left wing. I cut the engine and circle down. Using the shadow of the rigging really did the trick. There's no playing with the mixture on this Azani powered crate.




Now that went well, even tough I got lost plenty of times. But not having controls on your desk in front of you makes pondering the maps more convenient. Is it always that easy? How is the weather on the Channel?




Les Deux Caps (LFIS). It could be worse, but it is really windy. I proceed down the runway at the speed of someone walking next to me and by the time I am clear if the airport, I already have altitude enough to cross things. Again, I put in 80 kg of pilot & full fuel. I'll need that.




As I am crossing the Channel, I make a bit of altitude all the time. As the winds from the west get stronger, I for the first time start pushing the stick forward, even though this means basically overspeeding the aircraft. Winds get stronger the closer I get to the English coast ahead.




By the time I reach the cliffs, the wind carried me eastward such that I now have to fly west to reach Dover. Now the winds are such that the aircraft is almost stationary.




But just north of Dover, there is a glider airfield. I fly crabwise in that direction, shut down the engine and land... and get blown over, once the aircraft came to a halt. Crash. But this is the way you cross the Channel in a Blériot.




Funny, I did this "Blériot-detour" as well.




How cool.



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I am looking forward to the 25th of july and many bleriots crossing the channel


right now I did some holiday trips to france.. and flying back from the Ile de Yeu in poor weather was quite one of the most fun MSFS2020 experiences.. the weather is great and flying short hops in a bleriot in marginal weather feels really good and moody.



I noticed that it is a lot more stearable on the ground if you ad forward stick and use the negative turnmoment (counter aileron, so to speak, despite having none).. which makes the Bleriot halfway taxiable.

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Picked up the Bleriot in the market place sale to be ready for the twenty-fifth of July😃.


Paris by Gina and 16gigs of DDR3.


Even after the slightly eccentric update process I’m still amazed by how well my rather ancient rig can run this thing.

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On 4/15/2021 at 8:51 AM, Blooddawn1942 said:

Picked up the Bleriot to. Man is this kite fragile. Don't know if I get to fast or jerking her to hard around. And I'm obviously to stupid to get her started from cold and dark. 


That should not be too difficult.. on the anzani engine you just need to put iginition on and pull the prop with the mouse.. on the gnome engine you need some pump strokes to pressurize first. done in seconds.


22 hours ago, 216th_Cat said:

Got it as well. Half-price seemed well worth it. 🙂


Oh absolutely.. be ready to join for the aniversary channel crossing bleriot swarm on July 25ths?



8 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

Edgley Optica.


freeware: https://flightsim.to/file/12731/ea-7-edgley-optica


Apparently there is a payware Optica in production too. Perhaps surprising for such an obscure aircraft - only 22 built.



Hey, it was the star of this absolutely fantastic C-movie with Mark Hamill: Slipstream!!


Also on a side note: There is kind of a tunnel in MSFS


but the walls are non-colidable



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My new toy. A payware Bell 47G for MSFS from FlyInside. :cool: 🚁













It costs £25, and is well worth it in my opinion. The flight model (in 'realistic setting') is fairly similar to the DCS Huey, and seems plausible enough, from a brief couple of flights. It looks a bit too clean, but apparently they are working on 'dirty' versions.


The real thing has a piston engine, with no throttle governor, though they've made the latter an option to simplify things. I kept that on, and turned off damage, after my initial effort at taking off went a little awry. Obviously needs practice, and a lot of concentration.


Flyinside website: https://flyinside-helis.com/
MSFS forum thread: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/payware-bell47g-by-flyinside-available-now/379099

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Allright. Some more flying, PTO flavor.


With MSFS being what it is, we now have a good impression of where or in what kind of environment the southwest Pacific offers. Hence, some bush flying in Papua New Guinea and other islands of the theater is on the menu now.


It is of note that I did have to make three attemps to this first leg of the journey, as after about an hour into the flight, I got very bad framerates, they dropped from 30+ to 10+. Deleting both manual and rolling cache solved the issue. It might well be that my 300 GB rolling cache, that after my world tour was certainly full, was too much for the sim to handle. I could see that the main thread got stalled by other threads not fetching data in time. After deleting the caches and making them smaller, all went well agin.


I decided to start from Cairns, Australia with the Cessna 172. I don't really feel like taking the cheat woth powerful aircraft and GPS.





The C172 can do 1000 km at best, hence in Australia still means I still have a full fuel load to go before I reach Horn Island Airport (YHID).




At least the weaher is nice and I take oof to the south, then a lefthand climbing turn passing Cairns and the airport and on my intended course. Flying like that is easy. No wonder they were happy with having the central base for the southwest Pacific in Townsville.




Suprprisingly enough, I have to climb as fast as I can to make it across the mountains lining the Kuranda National Park. They have Kangaroos on trees down there!




But after a while, the unexpectedly large forest gives way to an incredible expanse in reddish-brown. That's about 500 km with hardly any road. Looking down, it just makes it apparent how lost the Japanese would have been, should they have tried to conquer this continent form any beachhead on the far side. If the supply could (and most certainly would have) been attacked, they would have met their end all by themselves out there in the sun.




Reaching my first waypoint, Rocky Point. Took a good while until I could tune in on the localizer, for the most part on the way here, I was following the "From" localizer from Cairns and after losing that one, kep on going by use of the heading bug. As my destination airport does not have a localizer, I use the localizer from Weipa Airport just ahead.




On my way to Horn Island Airport, I am passing Jardine River National Park, an area that encompasses several Aboriginal groups, a living cultural landscape.




Crossing into Torres Strait, I reach Prince of Wales Island (Muralug) and Horn Island (Ngurapai) beyond.




There is no ATC service on Horn Island airport, so I have to guess a runway by looking it up on Windy. Turning in on approach.




At least I am not alone out here. I fetch some gas and fill her to the gills. My previous would tour taught me well, that pointing your nose toward the ocean without havig the tank full is a big no-no!.




For the next leg, I chose one of the few localizers as first waypoint and navigate from there to my destination Moro Airport (AYMR). I don't expect too many mountains as I am crossing Torres Strait and then a huge river delta on New Guinea. Moro Airport supposedly is at 6 ft. altitude.




The weather looks good as well, although at my destination, it might get cloudy. I have been looing up this area a couple of thimes when playing this sim, but these kind of clouds ALWAYS seem to be present on this island. Be it then. At some point, one takes the chances. At least, a 1000 km theoretical range seems to be ok for getting places on that Island. I downloaded some community airfields to do some bush flying, also the WW2 Buna airfields and the WW2 airbase on Bougainville island.




Australia is great for flying. The weather always nice and off to the north I go.




There are plenty of islands in the Torres Strait. Saibari Island ahead and Dauan Island to the left, behind them should be New Guinea.




Indeed, there it is.




They definitely called the wrong island "Greenland". The one they call such I remember as an infernal orgy in white and grey.




Occasionally, there's a hole in this sea of green that they deem an airfield. Most have no localizer. With the appearance of these clouds, it seems to me that even the simplest of all fields might pose some challenge. This is Andakombe Airport (AYDC), I suppose. While I am cruising at 3'000 ft. to get a look at what might be down there, clouds get denser and denser.




And suddenly there's somethething in my way. I still can't tune in on any of dear localizers, and now I know why.




Ok, the trees are creeping now up under my but and I am climbing as much as I can. But now... if I manage to climb above all that, will I ever find a way below that to find my airfield?? At least I can pick up Moros localizer and go in that direction. That the ground climbs as fast as I can is most disconcerting.




Yey, there is a gap! It is incredible how fast these clouds formed and and towered up, engulfing me. Just incredible!! Luckily, I can see the lake next to which the airfield is supposed to be located. As I crossed that ridge, I follow the localizer from Moro Airfield. The approach to Moro has to be done from the side of the lake, as only there I get an idea of the ground elevation without relying on a map alone.




At least I have a good visual now. Those hills behind the airfield.. ugh...




As I continue the approach, the weather over the airfield is clearing up. I am surprised how clear it gets next to the rain cells.




The only place not in a swamp that I can find is a helo pad. Be it. That started out so easy but turned out to be a rather neasty affair. Aequatorial flying indeed has some charm to it. As there are no real seasons here, I cannot expect the weather to be nicer at any time. Now I've flown in many places in this sim and I can hardly think of pristine weather to be closer to heavy weather than this. Flying here just by dead reckoning and inaccurate maps must have been extremely entertaining.




Some defbrief. One can see my three tries departing from Cairns until deletion of the cache solved the FPS issues. But it was easy flying. Even though the repeater compass in the Cessna is a danger for anyone involved, the auto pilot maintains direction even though the repeather creeps off constantly. Passing the Torres strait, I couldn't pickup the localizer of WP1, but at some point I could tune in to Moro. That is when cloud problems really started. I was lucky finding a gap in the clouds to descend through. One thing I've noticed is that cloud base in these parts goes often all the way down to the trees.


Hopping from airfield to airfield here is gonna be some work...


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Question now that I’ve got my new rig built - are you guys using Steam for FS2020 or buying it direct?


Any advantages or disadvantages of either? 



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3 minutes ago, CUJO_1970 said:

Question now that I’ve got my new rig built - are you guys using Steam for FS2020 or buying it direct?


Any advantages or disadvantages of either? 


Doesn't make a lot of practical difference, since regardless of where you get it from it ends up doing its own thing, installation-wise, rather than following the standard Steam install. Microsoft like to be in charge...

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1 hour ago, CUJO_1970 said:

Any advantages or disadvantages of either? 

It‘s up to you how many or which installers you want to have on top of what MS is doing anyway. Least complexity you have when using the MS store. And that is IMHO complex enough by all means.

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I let my impatience to continue my world trip get the better of me. Clearly shouldn't have. 😟 That's Vladivostok below me. I'm stuck in low cloud and rain, and may end up flying back to Japan if I can't find clear skies any nearer.  More details later, including an explanation of why I was over Vladivostok in the first place...






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Some more flying in the PTO. This just show @AndyJWest that he's actually not doing that bad. There's many shades of bad.


This is the one in which where I didn't even get half way, but inexplicably, I didn't die.




But first things first. The plan. After my arrival at Moro Airfield, I picked some jungle fields for a visit. Komo airfield is one of the very few featuring a beacon. It even has an ILS. by now, I consider that a threat regarding weather I might encounter. But I do not plan on landing there, maybe a touch and go. I mainly plan to use its the beacon to direct me to Wanikipa Airstrip (AYWP). I even have a sketch of that airstrip:




There's a river, the runway is sloped, and weather: "Morning fog, afternoon showers" Given that it is probably not advisable to land there at night, when the heck is one supposed to land there???


As usaual in life: There's only one way to find out.


Enough paperwork in the flight information office. I step out and...




This is not rain, this is a deluge! Thank God I parked the aircraft on the concrete helo pad last night. I do know that in direction of the runway I am supposedly flying toward a lake and I am surrounded by hills otherwise. I can't see any of that. But I figure going straight the direction of the runway, I can keep climbing until maybe I can see something. And not run into things.




Full power, release brakes and off I go into the grey.




LOL... At the precise end of the runway, I emerge in beautiful and clear weather. Welcome to New Guinea! Then again, I suppose this works the other way around as well.




As I climb as fast as I can while maintaining some speed (just in case) not only the ground rises as fast as I climb, but there's an awful cloud layer sitting on top of these mountains. It is obvious, there is a lot of pretty hard stuff in those clouds...




Komo airfield is less than 5 miles away and by now I'm up at 7'000 ft. It must be directly behind that ridge. Komo is at ~5'000 ft. Most uncomfortable. I decide to aim for the ILS apporach opposite to my current flight course. I don't feel like diving into these clouds.




As I pass that ridge, I quickly see half of the airfield. Again, there's areas that are completely blanked out, the rest being pristine weather. There's hardly anything in between. I don't feel like landing. I have plenty of tailwind and the ATC wants me to land in the "correct" direction. Good luck doing that. ¡Adiós!


Ehm... this basically has been the "easy airport". Let's see what Wanikipa has to offer.




Full power climb, using the Komo localizer to give me the direction to Wanikipa. Like that, I also have a range indication (without using GPS as a cheat). These mountains. Those rocks being all green jungle, they don't seem as high as they are. I'm up at 7'500 ft., climbing and it is far from a safe altitude in case clouds colose on me.


In this part of the Island, there's almost only jungle, you can hardly see any settlements. If you had to bail out, you'd be trapped in an impervious jungle that even surrounds you not by one but several cliffs of an average height if 2'000 ft.! Not to mention forced landing would be lethal in almost all cases. This is indeed a difficult place. It is remarkable that this very feature seems to be a cause for the spectaclar biodiversity present.




I'm passing what is probably Pori landing strip (AYTX). What the heck are people doing out there? I don't feel like doing appraches there, I try to keep those 2'000 ft. altitude and go to Wanikipa first.




I am at 8'500 ft. now and the airstrip must be right behind that ridge, I am very close now. People land here??




Look at that! Just passing the ridge, there's a gap in the clouds and I see the river that must come from where Wanikipa is located. The "Turkish experience" during my world trip taught me everything I need to know when it comes to follow rivers and roads in non-permissive conditions. I spiral down 5'000 ft. (!) almost to to the riverbed in that gap.




Here we go! About one mile up, there must be a river coming in from the left. I must take this left and after another mile I should have reached the airstrip .




HOLY SH*************************************T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I yank the crate around, the repeater compass is way off, and somehow I manage to fly back the direction where I came from.




At least, in this direction, it is clearing up quickly as I reach the gap in the clouds where in descended. Now I'm really in a spot here. I have to climb some 5'000 ft. in this narrow valley to get out. This is gonna take some time. Good I took all the fuel I could. But while I waste time, climbing in tight circles.. Lo and Behold! Weather starts clearing up! I try again, up the river! Wanikipa, here I come.




There it is, in the fog. If I had to picture an airstrip on Skull Island, that would be it!




Sup. Chocolate for fuel?


I fly some further approaches as the weather indeed clears up slightly more in between the normal spells of outwardly unflyable conditions. The rule to new Guinea flying seems to be that in principle, it is usually nice weather, but you have to wait up to half a day at any location until that happens.


I realize now that my original plan of making four stops to Madang (next to Lae) is slightly optimistic. I spend the night here in the jungle, as after some go-arounds, weather closed again. I wait for "morning fog" to clear and take off then.




Looking at my flight log, I'm lucky to be alive. When I ventured up the valley, I took a left one turn after I should have.




My new plan is a tad simpler, as even Windy is threatening with a very low cloud base here be very high mountains.


The idea is now just to fly to Lae Nadzab (AYNZ) via Mount Hagen Airport (AYMH) and Madang (AYMD). I hope I can tune in in one of the beacons. I don't count on evading the clouds all the time.




Waiting for a suitable weather event like sunshine, I take off. Flying here has two modes. Full power climb or steep descent.




Representative weather along the way. Somehow i can't pick up Mount Hagens VOR and I fly by heading bug, constant full climb. I eventually reach 12'000 ft. to have a somewhat safe altitude in between the thunderstorm clouds.




There's a road in this country! It connects Porgera with Mount Hagen, Madang on the coast in the north and Lae. as I simply can't dial in on any beacon It's the road that guides me.




Mount Hagen. A real Airport. And typical weather. Horrible-nice-horrible.




Dodging clouds and hills, I arrive at Madang. The weather over the coast and the sea is usually nice. But as soon as you go inland it is like a steampot running on it's own timer.


Crossing the bay in direction to Lae, I am siilly enough to descent from 12'000 ft. to about 8'000 ft. for catching a breath. When I arrive at the coast again, I have to turn back as I needed to climb to 14'500 ft. to cross the mountain range in between the clouds.




Saidor along with its landing strip.




As I cross the mountain range, the weather opens up and over Lae it is sunny. Lae is just dead ahead. It is just to the left of the river flowing in direction away from me, just where it flows in the other river. I initiate a rather steep descent now from absolute maximum celing of the Cessna.




Lae Nadzab. And the total mess of weather, clouds and mountains that I've just crossed.




A real airport. And that was work coming here as well. The idea of pilots using inaccurate paper charts and vague instructions to find airstrips flying their Dakotas in this country coudn't impress me more.


It's fair to say, not PTO combat simulator ever came close to what flying in this part of the world really means.


Some debrief again.




Finding Mount Hagen was not that easy, but looking where the Highway goes helped. For some reson, I couldn't dial in the VOR. The mountains north of Lae are are truly monumental. 14'500 ft. is what you should have, given thos emountains come with a nice topping of thunderstorms.


Next is finding my way east to Milne Bay and Bougainville.



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Yeah, that's why I avoided the New Guinea highlands on my trip, ZachariasX. Almost permanent clouds.


More on last night's flight into stupidity. First, what was I doing in Vladivostok? Having arrived in Japan a month or so back, my trip was rather on hold while I waited for the weather to warm up northwards: the XCub has no de-icing. With time to spare while I waited, it seemed worth taking a diversion west, to look at an isolated but geologically-interesting volcano: Paektu, on the China/North Korea border. Or at least, that was the idea. Vladivostok seemed a sensible place to head for on the way, after waiting a week or so for a break in the weather, off I went, 419 nm across the Sea of Japan. My first attempt was going well, until I realised that after updating the XCub to the latest mod, I'd forgotten to reenable the auxiliary fuel tank.  This shouldn't have been an issue, except that I was flying into a 39 kt headwind, which would make it a little marginal. And then, well out to sea, the MSFS weather started  playing up. First, the headwind instantaneously changed to a 19 kt tailwind, which was a little disconcerting, but harmless. And then, a few minutes later, it reverted to the headwind. Not good. Suddenly well over VNE, climbing like a rocket. The wings were still attached at this point, so I carried on. Until it did the same thing again, with fatal structural damage. Having turned off damage, and enabled the extra fuel tank, I got across safely a couple of days later, landing at Emar Airport (UEMR), a few miles NW of Vladivostok itself.


And then I had to wait for the weather again. And to ask myself whether I'd made the right decision. Despite its latitude (Vladivostok is the same latitude as the south of France) it seems to be a bleak, cold, windswept region. And Mt Paektu is over 9000 ft. My chances of being able to climb high enough to see it without icing up seemed increasingly slim, unless I was willing to wait until midsummer.


Waiting for midsummer clearly wasn't sensible though, if I'm going to get back to GB this year - I've got the north Atlantic crossing to do too. If I can't see Paektu, I should be heading towards the Aleutians instead. The weather was still grim, but if I stayed over low ground, or out to sea, at least it should be a little warmer. 


Anyway, yesterday found me looking at the weather on Meteoblue (where it is supposed to be coming from), and convincing myself that it was going to be flyable. I even thought I might have a chance to head SW towards Paektu, though failing that, Plastun airport (UHWP) up the coast in the other direction would be a sensible option for continuing the trip. I decided to take a look at least, and decide which way to head once airborne. I started MSFS, set everything up, and clicked 'Fly', only to find the airport in a downpour, with solid grey murk overhead. Somehow I convinced myself that this was just a local shower. It wasn't, which is why my earlier screenshot shows me at 2000 ft over Vladivostok, wondering whether I should pick a more sensible hobby. 


It was clearly decision time. Landing back at Emar was clearly going to be tricky, and heading inland over high ground was probably suicidal. Which left me little choice but to head out to sea, hoping it all cleared. I could maybe make it to Plastun, though the worst-case scenario would have been to fly back to Japan. Using GPS and the autopilot, I flew blind a few miles offshore, following the coast to the northeast. Eventually it began to clear a little, and I was feeling a bit more optimistic. Plastun looked reachable.



At least, Plastun looked reachable until I got close. The weather was closing in again. I dropped down to 1000 ft, but the patchy murk was right down to sea level in places. The track from Little Navmap tells the story well. Came in close, couldn't see a thing, so turned out to sea. Decided to try the grass strip a few miles northeast, but soon realised it was even worse in that direction. Back to Plastun. Nope. Still can't see a damn thing coming in from the sea. One last option was to come in from the south, over the settlement. It looked a little clearer that way, and if I had to abort, I'd only have to make a 90-degree turn to safety.


In over the bay.


Over Plastun, and I can see the road leading to the airport.



The airport appears through the murk. A nice long runway.


A close-in circuit, and I'm almost there.


Safely down. Until the next leg...


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42 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

Anyone bought the Spitfire Mk IX yet?


Yes - I'd probably class it as decent but not great. Looks and sounds nice enough but when I compare the FM to the DCS one it doesn't match up. They got the pitching moment from the flaps the wrong way around. The torque from the engine seems to disappear once you get off the ground e.g. when in the air you can pull the throttle all the way back and then jam quickly it all the way forward and it doesn't induce any sort of rolling motion from the torque (I haven't tested this in a few weeks so potentially has been improved). I find the Milviz Corsair better all round - it's more expensive though

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3 hours ago, Tektolnes said:


Yes - I'd probably class it as decent but not great. Looks and sounds nice enough but when I compare the FM to the DCS one it doesn't match up. They got the pitching moment from the flaps the wrong way around. The torque from the engine seems to disappear once you get off the ground e.g. when in the air you can pull the throttle all the way back and then jam quickly it all the way forward and it doesn't induce any sort of rolling motion from the torque (I haven't tested this in a few weeks so potentially has been improved). I find the Milviz Corsair better all round - it's more expensive though


I’ve got the Spitfire and the P40. Neither are comparable to either GBS or DCS in terms of the flight model order  the 3D model and are a slight disappointment in my opinion.


 I think a lot of it is to do with shortcomings with the MSFS physics modelling as it is at the moment. This will develop as it’s a work in progress but high power, low weight taildraggers exacerbate these problems.


Some of the 3D modelling also seems....interesting. The Spitfire cockpit is pretty good but the external model seems to have more fuselage than it should have and the Corsair has been modelled incorrectly. The devs themselves estimate it’s five percent too large which seems a rather basic error from an experienced developer.

The P40 is the first attempt by a new team of devs and in my opinion reflects this.


Sounds are generally good but need tuning.


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21 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

Seems to me there’s no quality control gateway or reasonably high standard upheld with regard to flight models, 3D models etc for this product. Is that a fair statement?


Yup. The stock aircraft are mostly pretty good visually, but often missing significant functionality, and with sometimes questionable FMs. The third-party market has seen some absolute crap sold, and Microsoft have made it clear that they aren't going to apply any sort of quality control to the in-game 'market place'. Caveat emptor.

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