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Corsair coming to MSFS very soon apparently via Milviz. Between this, the Spit IX, CRJ and Piper Arrow III there's a few interesting releases coming up shortly.

 

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12 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I have a 1090 ti. I use VR in GB and most modules in DCS.

I rather use application on phone and a extra screen than VR in fs 2020.

Flying over a landscape you actually recognize, and is beautiful I simply cannot compromize with lower settings , also I find VR extremely uncomfortable in longer flights. 

Yeah, same. I have a 2070 and whilst it’s smooth enough the lack of detail when compared to the 2d view is just too much for me in FS2020. GB and DCS are vr only for me now. 

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FlyingIron Spit IXc released - €22 so had to have a nibble. Just did a short flight on my trip leg over Kilimanjaro. Take-off was squirrelly and just narrowly avoided totaling the plane inside 5 minutes. Climbing up over Gilman's Point nearly ended in disaster after I forgot to switch on the fuel pressure and starved the engine of fuel at the high altitudes but just about managed to get it switched on and restarted in time. Landing was worse than take-off - bounced all over the place and the less said about it the better. Need some practice time on these older birds after this past while on the modern ones where nearly everything is done for me.

 

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49 minutes ago, Tektolnes said:

FlyingIron Spit IXc released - €22 so had to have a nibble. Just did a short flight on my trip leg over Kilimanjaro. Take-off was squirrelly and just narrowly avoided totaling the plane inside 5 minutes. Climbing up over Gilman's Point nearly ended in disaster after I forgot to switch on the fuel pressure and starved the engine of fuel at the high altitudes but just about managed to get it switched on and restarted in time. Landing was worse than take-off - bounced all over the place and the less said about it the better. Need some practice time on these older birds after this past while on the modern ones where nearly everything is done for me.

 

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Mmmm, Spitfire!

 

Whats the cockpit like ?

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My last world trip leg took me from Wewak, PNG, to Sentani, just over the border in Western Papua. A simple enough trip, until I got to Sentani. Low cloud was forming, and I think I got there just in time. MSFS live weather at its best: I can see my end of the runway fine, but the far end is hidden in rain. Fortunately it's a long runway...

 

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Sentani is one of those airports where thinking in advance about what you'll do if you have to go around is wise - note mountain to the right, and there is more high ground ahead. 

 

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1 hour ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Whats the cockpit like ?

 

Overall very nice to my eyes. There's a few things that could be sharpened up a little like the engine/speed table text and I noticed for example that the boost coil cover and fuel cock lever mesh into each other. But I'm not a zealot in this area - when sitting back at normal view it looks a very nice cockpit in my opinion. Here's a quick zoomed in view I took though (the primer doesn't look like that in game - some screenshot artifact):

 

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11 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

Very interested in that Corsair.  I’m making my way up through the Southwest Pacific at the moment so it looks like just the thing.  

Funny enough, I rather have the Corsair than the Spit. I do not know why, it might be the fact that Spit is available in all sims and Corsairs in a few old ones

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Okay, I succumbed.  I'm actually waiting on Just Flight's Mk. I but like '109's; you can never have enough Spitfires:biggrin:.

 

My first flight; from St. Just to Culdrose.  If you have experience of the DCS Mk. IX then this will be very familiar.  Set rudder and elevator trim for take off and be prepared to use that rudder!  Sounds are actually better than are reproduced here.

Engine response is better than the GBS offering but not quite on a par with DCS; i.e. close the throttle and it bleeds off speed oh so slowly.  Ground handling on landing is a bit wonky but I have a feeling this is more to do with the mechanics of the sim at the moment rather than the 'plane itself.

  

 

More subjectivity but I feel cockpit textures and flight model, especially low speed and landing characteristics are on a lower level than GBS offerings.  Especially for VR where I feel GBS has nailed the way to do believable cockpits. 

 

One question; is it me or does this Spitfire seem more generously endowed in the fuselage department than other Spitties....?

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Exploring the XCub amphibian's capabilities. They probably don't see a lot of these here. 😉

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Almost came a cropper on approach. Sloping runways can be deceptive, and it's easy to get too low and find yourself having to climb to the threshold. Not a good idea flaps and wheels down in an aircraft without a lot of excess power at this altitude.

 

 

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56 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

Exploring the XCub amphibian's capabilities. They probably don't see a lot of these here. 😉

Great place for a boat! You know, just when they thought they've seen it all, there comes Andy.

 

After I slammed my Cessna in that runway and spent some time at the local veterinary's, I had to look for another plane. It was another Cessna 172, DA-CHOPPA. As I didn't intend to speend too much time there, I decided to leave as soon as possible. My next stop would be in New Dehli, VIDP.

 

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There seem to be some clouds around Lukla, but nothing serious. The idea was that I fly first to Tribhuvan International Airport (Kathmandu) and then proceed more at the foot of the Himalayas. I've seen enough high mountain flying in a 172. If the weather is not perfect, you're in a coffin, as simple as that.

 

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Leaving the briefing room, I hopped in my new old ride and... and...

 

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...saw not really the weather I was hoping for. But being familiar with the area, I know that if I take a left after the runway, I have some minutes time until I would run into something hard, plenty time to find good weather.

 

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Going over the edge is passing the point of no return, just to see that the event horizon is sitting at the end of the runway. There's nothing I can do now but take chances.

 

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Just about three minutes of total whiteout after takeoff. Could have been worse. But I can see now that a direct route to Kathmandu is gonna be difficult.

 

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I am working the Heading Bug to aim bewteen the mountain tops while climbing with everything I have and still I have to lift my but passing over them. I have to detour a bit. But at least there's no precipitation and no icing. Fingers crossed.

 

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I finally reach Kathmandu, flying in that tiny slot between clouds and mountain tops.

 

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It's a nice airport. I'll have to revisit that one later with a larger plane. But now I turn away from the mountains.

 

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Those mountains look better from a slight distance.

 

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On approach to Dehradun (VIDN), the city of Mayakund just below me. From here, the ladscape is as flat as it is boring. Boring thanks to blue skies.

 

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ILS approach on Indira Gandhi International Airport, a IFR only airport. By now I am rather familiar with these gauges. I don't use the GPS and I don't enter a flight plan, I just print the chart form Little NavMap. That's enough. What is odd however is that the repeater compas has a nice creep that mosty occurs while turning the aircraft. The internal heading for the autopilot however seems to be wired to a magnetic compass that doesn't get confused, You can then wind the heading bug back to match your actual flying course. It is easier than looking up the course on the whisky compass. I have never done such in a real aircraft so i don't really know if that is correct or not.

 

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Anyway. Where di I actually fly? Past Kathmandu it got easy. Before that, not so. A 1000 km is about the distance you can cover in the 172 if the weather is not too foul.

 

This brings me to my next leg, New Dehli (VIDP) to Kabul (OAKB) via Islamabad. The weather is good, and I better make use of it. But as soon as I spawned on the runway, I was told by the tower to contact ground services as this was an IFR airport (and GTFO). Who cares? I took off and marvelled at Indias diverse landscape on the way to Pakistan.

 

The have squares in all shades of green, brown and yellow, look:

 

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Green with fawn squares.

 

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Mostly fawn squares with dark squares.

 

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Oh, the added some RLM 71 to the platte.

 

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Colors are getting really weird now. Ah, I'm crossing into Pakistan. Triangulating some radials puts me somewhere near Lahore. Venturing on to Islamabad, the landscape is more an more desert like.

 

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I don't waste any time over Islamabad but soldier on to Peschawar.

 

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They do have some impressive dams though. But my main concern is the weather now. It's getting iffy.

 

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Peschawar. Another huge, flat, faceless city. But much to my concern, the cloud ceiling is dropping and I see mountains rising on the horizon. But I assume that I have sufficiant height and I risk to fly into the clouds occasionally...

 

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...which almost made me run into that mountain, it just popped out of the cloud soon enough to yank the aircraft around. BEWARE OF MOUNTAINS east of Peschawar! I must fly around them, as I cannot climb over them, I am too close. Then I go back on course, hoping to catch some beacon in Afghanistan.

 

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But then suddenly settlements change into these walled stone compunds. These are not gated cummunities, these are walled shacks. It looks like I've arrived in the stone age. I check the maps and yes, I just crossed into Afghanistan. That I don't get any beacons from Kabul is a problem. These are line of sight and if I don'r receive the closer beacon, then there must be another mountain in between.

 

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I can't be too far from Kabul, but how deserted is this place. Like the moon. Somewhere underneath this fat cloud in th distance is Kabul. And finally, the only beacon I can dial in from there is the ILS beacon. I can't really see where I am going but I hope the beacon will not make me fly into a mountain.

 

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The auto pilot makes an intercept that is darn close to these hills. Just inbetween those hills ahead, there should be Kabul. This is freakin' twilight zone.

 

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The auto pilot was right. There it is. With this weather I really don't feel much like sightseeing. I better make it to the ground alive.

 

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Made it, finally. Half of the trip and for the most part in Afghanistan it's just dead reckoning (or GPS).

 

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This is one weird place. Half of the trip and for the most part in Afghanistan it's just dead reckoning (or GPS). From here, over the Hindu Kush to Ashgabat, capital of Turkmenistan. I am lucky having made it this far.

 

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ZachariasXYeah, I looked at what the live weather was going to be like at Lukla, via Windy.com, and decided to give it a miss. Though even using custom settings I had to mess around a bit to get there. First, I'd got clouds at airport level, and after I sorted that out, I still managed to ice the XCub windscreen up. Fortunately, engaging active pause and then bumping the air temperature right up rapidly defrosted it.

 

As for flying boats (well, floatplanes) in the mountains, they do offer some nice options. Volcanic caldera lakes in particular. Anyone looking for a spectacular example should try Lake Segara Anak, on Lombok, Indonesia. If I ever accumulate enough dosh to become a Bond Villain, I'm going to use it as my secret base. 😃

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8 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

If I ever accumulate enough dosh to become a Bond Villain, I'm going to use it as my secret base. 😃

You sure bring along a shovel to hollow it out. That float Cub is really cool. 

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Another nice challenge for the XCub amphibian. The lake's not very big (1,900 ft along its major axis), and has trees on the approach making the effective length even shorter. You only get one attempt, since there's no real chance of going around.

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Taking off again is relatively simple.
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I'll not say where it is for now Brits at least ought to be able to guess where it is. You may well have flown past it at high speed. 😉

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I would pay 3 x the price of any WW2 IL 2 Sturmovik aircraft, to fly with exactly the same flight model, on MSFS 2020 

No guns, no rockets, no weapons at all 

Only the amazing aerodynamics IL 2 has

Not even DCS world can match the WW2 aerodynamics IL 2 Sturmovik has it 

That's just my opinion 

What do you think, guys? 

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17 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

I have a soft spot for float planes and flying boats.

 

I would love to see a seaplane  in IL2 BOX.

The Ar 196 to name one.

 

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22 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

@AndyJWest How would you rate the water/landing physics? Believable?

 

I have a soft spot for float planes and flying boats.

 

As of now, the MSFS water physics seem rather simplistic. I think the XCub mod makes a better job of it than the stock Icon A5 though. You have to be fairly careful landing, as coming down too hard can make it bounce, then pitch down as it lands again, digging the floats in, which results in a crash (assuming you've not disabled them). 

 

There are no visible wake graphics, and waves don't seem to have much effect, though you don't notice that so much from the cockpit.

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3 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

@AndyJWest How would you rate the water/landing physics? Believable?

 

I have a soft spot for float planes and flying boats.

I agree on Andy' s remark.

It is however believeable but not dangerous. Ground handeling is in my point of view remarkable easy compared to other sims, even taildtagggers . I bought the L 19 and tested its floats. I liked it, and that is enough for me

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3 hours ago, Avyx said:

I would pay 3 x the price of any WW2 IL 2 Sturmovik aircraft, to fly with exactly the same flight model, on MSFS 2020 

No guns, no rockets, no weapons at all 

Only the amazing aerodynamics IL 2 has

Not even DCS world can match the WW2 aerodynamics IL 2 Sturmovik has it 

That's just my opinion 

What do you think, guys? 

 

Fully agree. I got into MFS2020 pretty good at the start and even did some repaints for the Bonanza but for the last 4 months I only launch it to install updates when they come out (like today).

 

No comparison to IL2's outstanding flight characteristics in my opinion.   Being addicted to this stupid mission editor doesn't hurt either. 😉

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6 hours ago, Avyx said:

I would pay 3 x the price of any WW2 IL 2 Sturmovik aircraft, to fly with exactly the same flight model, on MSFS 2020 

No guns, no rockets, no weapons at all 

Only the amazing aerodynamics IL 2 has

Not even DCS world can match the WW2 aerodynamics IL 2 Sturmovik has it 

That's just my opinion 

What do you think, guys? 


For me, I’m not so interested in flying what are essentially toothless warbirds in FS2020.  What I would really be looking for are the classic touring aircraft. Golden Age stuff, such as the Dragon Rapide, DC-3 or Lockheed Electra etc. 

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6 hours ago, Uufflakke said:

 

I would love to see a seaplane  in IL2 BOX.

The Ar 196 to name one.

 

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Well if it was a combat sim, make mine an A6M-2 N "Rufe"

Not that I'd complain about the Ar 196 mind you...although a float Ju-52...even better.

 

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If it's a civilian sim, make it a Grumman G-111 or similar.

 

 

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Gambit21, you know about the freeware Grumman Goose I discussed earlier? 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/54212-microsoft-flight-sim-2020/?do=findComment&comment=1039724

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Not really up to latest MSFS standards, graphically, and the flight model is rather odd too, but it's free, so might be worth a look. Seems to be on the back burner development-wise, for the moment, but it is at least useable. 

 

 

 

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I only care for „toothless“ warbirds only if they have study level sytems modelling. These are challenging aircraft to operate if things are not going perfectly. Without those quirks, these are boring planes. Boring as any other aircraft with a modest implementation. If I just wanted fast aircraft and doing maneuvers, BoX and DCS serve the purpose well. In MSFS, the bar far higher. Scott really set the bar for warbird implementation with his Accusim addons. Below that, I couldn‘t care less anymore.

 

I very much miss his beautiful Connie. Ideally, that would have been the plane of choice for a world tour. All steam gauges and a very primitive autopilot. (Doing a world tour in a plane without autopilot I’d consider an act of self hurt.) The B377 would also have been nice, but less so. Being able to fly at these altitudes efficiently is truly a game changer and it makes the game a tad easy for fun. But you can always set your challenge accordingly.

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6 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

I only care for „toothless“ warbirds only if they have study level sytems modelling. These are challenging aircraft to operate if things are not going perfectly. Without those quirks, these are boring planes. Boring as any other aircraft with a modest implementation. If I just wanted fast aircraft and doing maneuvers, BoX and DCS serve the purpose well. In MSFS, the bar far higher. Scott really set the bar for warbird implementation with his Accusim addons. Below that, I couldn‘t care less anymore.

 

I very much miss his beautiful Connie. Ideally, that would have been the plane of choice for a world tour. All steam gauges and a very primitive autopilot. (Doing a world tour in a plane without autopilot I’d consider an act of self hurt.) The B377 would also have been nice, but less so. Being able to fly at these altitudes efficiently is truly a game changer and it makes the game a tad easy for fun. But you can always set your challenge accordingly.

Accusim raised the bar so high, basically everything else is just a way of waiting for it to come to FS2020 for me. Nice waiting don’t get me wrong, but still waiting. 

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I agree on the study perfection level part.

I wont rise my eyebrow for anything else.

Getting a WW2 bomber with realistic FM  would make me fly to Germany at 30000 feet , then return , several times. 

But at this stage I do no serious flying, I fly a light bird between mountains over boulevards and enjoy the scenery. No flight is longer than I do in any other sim. I do not do mod's, just because I am not motivated.

I want it handed over in a plate, push a button and get it

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7 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Getting a WW2 bomber with realistic FM  would make me fly to Germany at 30000 feet , then return , several times. 

 

The only WWII bomber that will do  I would want to do that in is the Mosquito ;)

 

I also bought the L-19 Bird Dog, a fun little airplane.

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1 hour ago, busdriver said:

 

I also bought the L-19 Bird Dog, a fun little airplane.

 

For when you’re in the mood to get your ‘Danny Glover’ on!

 

Of course being a civilian sim you’ll have to settle for playing Bat21 over a school yard or little league game.

 

”I draw fire from everything from tan bark to baseballs!”

 

Good times.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gambit21 said:

 

For when you’re in the mood to get your ‘Danny Glover’ on!

 

Of course being a civilian sim you’ll have to settle for playing Bat21 over a school yard or little league game.

 

”I draw fire from everything from tan bark to baseballs!”

 

Good times.

 

 

 

Entertaining movie with some cool flying but absolutely nothing like the actual story.  Would love to see a "remake" of Bat21 someday more based on what happened especially since Tom Norris (the actual rescuer of Hambleton) has such an amazing story

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3 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

 

Entertaining movie with some cool flying but absolutely nothing like the actual story.  Would love to see a "remake" of Bat21 someday more based on what happened especially since Tom Norris (the actual rescuer of Hambleton) has such an amazing story

 

So add it to my book list is what you're saying.

Done.

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