Boosted 109G6

[III./JG7-MarkWilhelmsson 59]

How prevalent was the boost add-on in the G6 after the end of 1943? Is there a possibility this made be added in BoBP? Would it make sense?

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard 704]

If I am not mistaken the G-6 retrofitted with MW 50 started seeing service around April 1944 in the Western Front (I guess it was later on the Eastern Front) . Having it as a mod alongside the Erla Haube would add some value to this collector plane. Also since with these modifications it ends up being really similar to the G-14, people that have the G-6 but not the BoBP expansion could play in BoBP themed missions/servers without being at a disadvantage.

[LF_Gallahad 936]

I would love to see this implemented

[Pre 212]

33 minutes ago, LF_Gallahad said:

I would love to see this implemented

Same

[SCG_OpticFlow 108]

Would be nice also to add a 1.42 ATA engine power mod for 109 G2..

[II./JG77_Kemp 512]

Devs said around the time when G6 was released that it could be possible that it will get MW50 added later on, though it does not seem very likely that they will get back to doing it and some members of the community felt very passionately against having such mods available for G6 in the game.

Edited September 11 by II./JG77_Kemp

[VO101Kurfurst 684]

Late G-6 with boost =~ G-14. So basically that’s it, there is not much of a point in it. 

 

The only major difference on the G-14 was the Erla canopy, and a minor (non-existing for us, simmers) change in that the MW tank was pressurized with pressure bottles on the G-6 (as the boost was a retrofit), while on the G-14 the pressurized air was tapped from the supercharger.

[sevenless 1183]

A G10 or G14/AS would make more sense for BoBP?

[CSAF-D3adCZE 110]

Since we will have tactical war scenario G10 would make sense, but G14/AS unfortunately not. There is no high alt scenario, even though fighting above 5km happens rather often.

Edited September 24 by CSAF-D3adCZE

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard 704]

6 hours ago, CSAF-D3adCZE said:

Since we will have tactical war scenario G10 would make sense, but G14/AS unfortunately not. There is no high alt scenario, even though fighting above 5km happens rather often.

The G-10 has very similar performance to the G-14/AS,  slightly slower than the normal G-14 at sea level for what I could find.

Edited September 24 by -=PHX=-SuperEtendard

[sevenless 1183]

7 hours ago, CSAF-D3adCZE said:

Since we will have tactical war scenario G10 would make sense, but G14/AS unfortunately not. There is no high alt scenario, even though fighting above 5km happens rather often.

 

Either one would make me and a few other folks happy I guess. You could easily create one collector plane 3-D Modell with 2 different engines and have both. You even could expand that to the G6/AS and create 3 planes with one 3D-model and 3 engine mods. All of them (G6/AS, G10, G14/AS) were of relevance during the timeframe of 3/44-3/45.

[CSAF-D3adCZE 110]

As a 109 junkie, I'd love to. However devs have limited time and resources and these modifications might not bring enough revenue they would need.

[-332FG-Ursus_ 29]

You got G-14 for that.

 

Instead, it would be good G-14/AS

[LukeFF 4522]

If the team decides on a Normandy scenario for the next release, you can pretty much count on there being a boosted 109 G-6. You gotta have at least one new, standalone 109 in the title for those who are buying the game for the first time, much like with the 109 G-4 being included in Kuban.

Edited September 27 by LukeFF

[77.CountZero 1062]

Problem for Normandy is 190s, they were most numerous by squadrons in area and almost all were 190A8 that we have in game, so its hard to belive they would be able to do historical SP campaign without having most used LW airplane in 1944 on that area.

[sevenless 1183]

On 9/27/2019 at 9:01 PM, 77.CountZero said:

Problem for Normandy is 190s, they were most numerous by squadrons in area and almost all were 190A8 that we have in game, so its hard to belive they would be able to do historical SP campaign without having most used LW airplane in 1944 on that area.

 

They could use A7s instead, since the A8 received MW50 in 07/44 after the invasion. So until 7/44 there is not much difference between an early A8 and the A7.

[-[HRAF]Roland_HUNter 14]

From 1943 autumn the G-6 got Erla haube aswell.

[YIPPEE 380]

As others said the G-14 is almost literally a G-6 with MW, so there is no point.

 

What would make sense is to have 1.42 ata unrestricted for the G-6 for later scenarios.

[LukeFF 4522]

1 hour ago, YIPPEE said:

As others said the G-14 is almost literally a G-6 with MW, so there is no point.

 

There is a point in having it for those who haven't bought any of the other titles yet (thinking of a Normandy-era scenario). 

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard 704]

1 minute ago, LukeFF said:

 

There is a point in having it for those who haven't bought any of the other titles yet (thinking of a Normandy-era scenario). 

I think that spot would be better used with one of an /AS variant. And if it has the late cockpit, tail and MW 50 it can be considered G-14/AS which would also make it really useful in the BoBP scenario as well ^^

[CUJO_1970 990]

On 9/29/2019 at 8:02 PM, sevenless said:

 

They could use A7s instead, since the A8 received MW50 in 07/44 after the invasion. So until 7/44 there is not much difference between an early A8 and the A7.

 

‘No, it was not MW50, it was 801/TU power plant replacing 801/D2 (F-600) power plant in serial production that allowed increase to 1.58/1.65 boost. MW50 was possible but erhöte notleistung injection was used instead as it added no increase in weight.

 

Some aircraft were already retro-fitted with this engine, July is just when it was serially produced in all new A8 aircraft. In fact small numbers of A9 were already starting to be delivered with even more powerful TS power plant at this time.

[MiloMorai 617]

That myth still exists CUJO, which is sad.

[VO101Kurfurst 684]

On 9/27/2019 at 6:56 PM, LukeFF said:

If the team decides on a Normandy scenario for the next release, you can pretty much count on there being a boosted 109 G-6. You gotta have at least one new, standalone 109 in the title for those who are buying the game for the first time, much like with the 109 G-4 being included in Kuban.

 

And a boosted ‘new’ G-6 will be different from a G-14 how..?

 

Plus historically you already have G-14s over Normandy. Which were in fact converted G-6s. And officially called G-14. 

 

Boosted G-5/AS would make some sense because of Knoke and JG 11. But then again it could be just as well be a G-14/AS which is pretty much the same thing.

[LukeFF 4522]

5 hours ago, VO101Kurfurst said:

 

And a boosted ‘new’ G-6 will be different from a G-14 how..?

 

Plus historically you already have G-14s over Normandy. Which were in fact converted G-6s. And officially called G-14. 

 

Boosted G-5/AS would make some sense because of Knoke and JG 11. But then again it could be just as well be a G-14/AS which is pretty much the same thing.

 

You are missing the_entire_point, which is right in front of you. A G-6 is needed for those who are buying into the game for the first time. Not everyone has bought all of the previous titles.