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24 minutes ago, pfrances said:

 

Where's the axis love?

 

They probably need to save them for future modules.

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26 minutes ago, pfrances said:

Where's the axis love?

 

On the russian forum thread from which these rumors originated someone asked more or less indeed what was next for the axis side

 

Another user responded: "unconditional surrender"

 

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I wonder if this announcement, if accurate, can be read as an indication of more expansions to come in the Western theatre. Maybe not for the next expansion, but the one after.

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I like the Hurricane and i think it could supplement the BoM planeset pretty well. But i would've liked it more shortly after BoM release three years ago.

 

Not now after the upcoming BoBP release and before the (very likely) move to PTO.

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1 hour ago, pfrances said:

Disappointing need if it's true. Hurricane might just be a pass for me. I have no interest in it at all. It's too ugly LOL.

 

Yak 9 looks compelling though.

 

Where's the axis love?

I completely agree, I mean I can only fly the 109 E7, F2, F4, G2, G4, G6, and K14, or the FW190, A3, A5, A8, D9 and  the only jet powered plane the 262.
and the other bits and bobs.

 

I'd say the axis has had plenty of love, but i don't doubt we'll see more anyway.
 

 

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I always thought IAR-80 would pair well with the hurricane as collector planes.

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35 minutes ago, Melonfish said:

I completely agree, I mean I can only fly the 109 E7, F2, F4, G2, G4, G6, and K14, or the FW190, A3, A5, A8, D9 and  the only jet powered plane the 262.
and the other bits and bobs.

 

I'd say the axis has had plenty of love, but i don't doubt we'll see more anyway.
 

 

 

190 D-13 with boosted ailerons as collector plane?

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2 minutes ago, Cpt_Cool said:

I always thought IAR-80 would pair well with the hurricane as collector planes.

We should have gotten the IAR 80 back when BoS was released and not the Fw-190A-3

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11 minutes ago, Novice-Flyer said:

We should have gotten the IAR 80 back when BoS was released and not the Fw-190A-3

 

I guess one could make that case, but for me ... no.

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4 hours ago, Brano said:

No need for yet another "let's get rid of those worn-outs" Lend-Lease machine.

 

They weren't necessarily worn out. Some of the Hurricanes were brand new. RN pilots operating dated Hurricane I's from escort carriers complained that the planes (i.e. Hurricane II's) in the cargo bays of the freighters they were protecting were a lot better and in a lot better shape than what they got to fly.

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I would not go as far as to say the devs should have done such and such. Some risks were triumphs, some were mistakes, some mistakes have been fixed. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

All i'm saying is I would be all over that IAR 80.

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36 minutes ago, SCG_OpticFlow said:

 

190 D-13 with boosted ailerons as collector plane?

 

D-11, D-13 and Ta-152 H1 to make that collection complete 😁

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I know it's too early .... but I can not help it: to the Skinners, please the two ...

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41 minutes ago, SCG_OpticFlow said:

 

190 D-13 with boosted ailerons as collector plane?

nah to Ta-183 or Go-229, D-13 is to underpowered 😄

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6 hours ago, Melonfish said:

I completely agree, I mean I can only fly the 109 E7, F2, F4, G2, G4, G6, and K14, or the FW190, A3, A5, A8, D9 and  the only jet powered plane the 262.
and the other bits and bobs.

 

I'd say the axis has had plenty of love, but i don't doubt we'll see more anyway.
 

 

 

I'll never complain about getting more 109s but you kinda proved my point. The plane sets are roughly the same size but the axis list is taken up by several variants of the same (utterly gorgeous 😜) planes. The axis fielded so many cool birds, I'd love to see something completely new from that camp . . . . in addition to the 109-G10 please ;) 

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11 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

I'm hoping that if we get the Hurricane, we will also get a Malta campaign further down the line, as we would have most of the aircraft that we would need already.

 

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Edit: Fingers crossed ;)

 

Malta is being covered by IL-2 Cliffs of Dover, likely in the next installment: TF 6.0. An MTO in Il-2 GBs would likely be after the Pacific and if the devs have enough resources to do it, and there's an interest by the community. 

 

For Everyone: If the Collectors announced at dev 229 are the Yak-9, Yak-9T and Hurricane (Russian version) then they would all fit nicely into the Eastern front battles we already have and I would definitely get them. Although, I hope that the Yak-9T will be included with the Yak-9, so your only paying for 2 planes. We’ve seen that before with the Fw-190A-8

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8 minutes ago, Novice-Flyer said:

likely in the next installment: TF 6.0

 

Won't our sun be turning into a red giant by the time that is released? 

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58 minutes ago, Novice-Flyer said:

Malta is being covered by IL-2 Cliffs of Dover, likely in the next installment: TF 6.0. 

 

There had better be some significant medical advances in the next few years or most of the people in this forum will not live to see that.

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1 hour ago, BraveSirRobin said:

 

There had better be some significant medical advances in the next few years or most of the people in this forum will not live to see that.

Actually, I foresee it being released in 2021, along with the first Pacific installment in IL-2 GBs. With the former, they want the Tobruk expansion to be entirely if not almost bug free just like in IL-2 GBs. Rushing never ends well. Examples are Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster and the 737 MAX. It's better to delay something by a few months and have it be successful, rather than rush and have the product a disaster.

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13 minutes ago, Novice-Flyer said:

Actually, I foresee it being released in 2021

 

Are you talking about 5.0?   Because there is absolutely no chance that they're releasing another significant update (6.0) in 2021.  They'll probably be thrilled if 5.0 is released by 2021.

 

At this point I'm pretty sure that 6.0 is scheduled for "sooner than you think, but not as soon as 5.0".  So Spring of 2030.

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Wonder if these are the only collector planes being made? I was hoping we'd get some extra aircraft  for Bodenplatte but the hurricane is ok I guess. Yak  doesn't interest me at all though.

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S!

 

 So a Hurricane thread turned into slandering another 1C title 🙄 While the update has been in the making for a while now, one has to remember that their deal with 1C is not that old yet. Takes time to adjust from trial and error to actually work with the source code and tools. And change all that was done while "modding". But hey, easy to slander when self have zero impact or investment on the product, right? :P

 

Anyways. Hurricane would fit fine in GB. It has opponents like Bf109E-4 and E-7, Bf110E-2, Macchi 202, Heinkel, Ju-88 etc. So a somewhat equal timeline for the planes. 

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i definitely like it in Cliffs of Dover .... the 100 oct version i used then. J

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3 hours ago, LLv34_Flanker said:

Anyways. Hurricane would fit fine in GB. It has opponents like Bf109E-4 and E-7, Bf110E-2, Macchi 202, Heinkel, Ju-88 etc. So a somewhat equal timeline for the planes.

There is no E4.

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12 minutes ago, InProgress said:

There is no E4.

 

yet ! ;)  . . . . . . I can dream that Battle of Britain may one day be re-imagined by the dev's on their, by then, new super duper DX22 game engine 

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8 hours ago, LLv34_Flanker said:

S!

 

 So a Hurricane thread turned into slandering another 1C title 🙄 

 

It’s a part time team working on a project that requires a full time commitment.  There is absolutely no chance that they’re releasing a major update by 2021, unless that update is 5.0.

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BoB 1941. 

Me109E7, Spit V, Hurricane II, Ju87D, He111-H6, Ju88, Macchi

Kuban map

 

Let the purist outrage begin :) 

 

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1 hour ago, PatrickAWlson said:

BoB 1941. 

Me109E7, Spit V, Hurricane II, Ju87D, He111-H6, Ju88, Macchi

Kuban map

 

Let the purist outrage begin :) 

 

 

 

 

Works for me, bring it on.:drinks:

 

 

Not to mention Hurricane missions on Moscow and Stalingrad maps, what is not to like.;)

 

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.:biggrin:

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1 hour ago, PatrickAWlson said:

BoB 1941. 

Me109E7, Spit V, Hurricane II, Ju87D, He111-H6, Ju88, Macchi

Kuban map

 

Let the purist outrage begin :) 

 

 

Add 109s F-2 and F-4 and an "early" british bomber like Blenheim or Wellington and you have the perfect Channel 41/42 scenario.

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1 hour ago, PatrickAWlson said:

BoB 1941. 

Me109E7, Spit V, Hurricane II, Ju87D, He111-H6, Ju88, Macchi

Kuban map

 

Let the purist outrage begin :) 

 

Circus operations 1941 - Bf 109E7/F2, Spit V, Hurricane II, P-40 because why not, Macchi, Ju-88, Bodenplatte map.

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3 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

BoB 1941. 

Me109E7, Spit V, Hurricane II, Ju87D, He111-H6, Ju88, Macchi

Kuban map

 

Let the purist outrage begin :) 

 

Sounds good to me. I made a somewhat believable D-Day on the Kuban map, and people liked it well enough. The biggest criticism was the air spawns, so a map/location avoiding those and still simulating Britain - France would work really well for this.

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1 hour ago, J2_Trupobaw said:

Circus operations 1941 - Bf 109E7/F2, Spit V, Hurricane II, P-40 because why not, Macchi, Ju-88, Bodenplatte map.

 

 

Absolutely, let us hope the Hurricane is a go.:cool:

 

As huge as it is it is just a shame the Bodenplatte map does not include the English coast because then all kinds of things would have been possible from early to late war even with what we have.  The A-20 was developed for and used by the French and English early on in the war.  Surely it would be possible to alter the Me-109 E-7 to the E-4 and equally the Spitfire V to include options for the early years.

 

From here I would advocate a aircraft pack without a map as the next step forward, if you add a Blenheim I and or V,  IAR 80 and Hurricane you then expand the Eastern front especially if you include the option to fly for some/all of the nations involved in Barbarossa.  Add the Mosquito in various guises along with Arado 234 and Me-210/410 for Bodenplatte and then maybe two types from R.O.F., maybe heavy bombers as we do not yet have anywhere for the seaplanes and you add so much potential for campaign/mission builders to make their mark as well as developing the career for all modules with existing assets.

 

The map makers could help develop the various third party maps to keep themselves gainfully employed, just my thoughts on things.:)

 

Take care.

 

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.:biggrin:

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We no longer have a simple Germany vs. USSR situation. We have 5 nations represented in the plane-sets to various degrees. Germany is going to be outnumbered as far as different type of airframes we can possibly build eventually. Hard to do a tit for tat forever. Just a fact of life. So over time the Germans may have less of the flyable percentage of CP planes offered. 

The Luftwaffe just got surrounded by too many bitchin' Allied planes! 

 

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Jason

 

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I too would have loved a sliver of the UK coast and *just* one airbase.

 

regardless, I'm hugely satisfied with the up coming maps.

 

As Jason has just posted, the sim is/has outgrown the simple USSR vs AXIS scenario and I think is all the better for it (although I love my Russian Aircraft etc).

 

I can't wait to see more from all sides, oddities and stalwarts.

 

The devs are delivering a superb sim (moddable too!)

 

imho BoX now outshines the original classic game. YMMV! :)

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39 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

We no longer have a simple Germany vs. USSR situation. We have 5 nations represented in the plane-sets to various degrees. Germany is going to be outnumbered as far as different type of airframes we can possibly build eventually. Hard to do a tit for tat forever. Just a fact of life. So over time the Germans may have less of the flyable percentage of CP planes offered. 

The Luftwaffe just got surrounded by too many bitchin' Allied planes! 

 

:salute: 

 

Jason

 

 

 

 I know we just do like to bitch, sorry Jason, we all love this genre and that is how it is, you have been here from the start as have many us that post here.;)

 

It is a fact that there cannot be a equal amount of aircraft made for each side, you have to go with what was there and decide what in the overall scheme of things are the most important as far as developing this particular simulator go, you can develop the existing theatres way beyond what they are now and make something truly outstanding, if we are not there already.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.:biggrin:

 

 

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