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Problem with a Logitech X52pro and axis sensitivity sliders

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I've just purchased a logitech X52 pro (the throttle of my 12-year-old Saitek X52 pro got damaged and I decided to buy the same joystick, the one I am used to). After calibrating it, I entered the sim, adjusted the axes sensitivity and I see no matter what sensitivity I choose, the response in game is the same. I'm sure it didn't happen before, or I just didn't realize. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, although I don't think so. With the sensitivity I have now, (I think aileron 50 and elevator 55), the spitfire is rather low turning, but if I change the sliders to 0, the spitfire responses the same, and if I turn them to 1, the same happens, that is to say,  those sliders don't work in my sim. Any suggestion?

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Well, after a lot of tribulations, without understanding anything at all, I installed a program called vjoystick and, since I didn`t know how to configure it, problems got worse. No matter what I did, I could't control any plane properly. Obviously, I blamed the new joystick or the drivers or whatever. And, as usual, googling and googling I came upon a post in which somebody told about changing a section in the conf.ini. I changed it as follows:

[rts_joystick]
X=0 1 2 3 4 5 7 9 12 16 21 27 32 38 46 53 61 70 81 93 100 0
Y=0 1 2 3 4 5 7 9 12 16 21 27 32 38 46 55 66 79 95 100 0
Z=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
FF=0
U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1X=0 1 6 10 15 22 33 44 58 72 100 0
1Y=0 1 6 10 16 23 31 43 56 73 100 0
1Z=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RX=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RY=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RZ=0 1 4 8 13 21 28 39 52 69 100 0
1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0

 

I don't know why. I don't know what these parameters change, but since I used them, I've been flying very decently, smoother than ever.

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I would recommend you try flying the game without adjust the axes sensitivity.

 

The Spitfire is a very forgiving aircraft, easy to fly... you should not need to make any changes.

 

And by dialing down on the sensitivity you will probably reduce your maneuverability.

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Posted (edited)

The adjust "sensitivity" is perhaps bad named, is not like in IL-2:46 -  in what most people set all sliders in 100 "to have a better turning plane"😀

 

Curiosity: Eric "Winkle" Brown (RN test pilot) adjust for il-2:FB for have the perception of controls that he are used - an very slow response for players standards:


Pitch - 0, 1, 3, 7, 9, 14, 18, 23, 27, 33
Roll   - 0, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10, 12, 17
Yaw  - 0, 0, 1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 11, 14, 16

 

Notice - In CloD controls interface the slider goes from 0.00 (left) to 1.00 (right) - in fact is from 0.00 to 100.00 (CloD "peculiarity").

 

In CloD (and Bo'X') is slider adjust the "S curve",  apply a "dampen" the middle of axis response.

 

From Tm TARGET manual:

 

S-curve.jpg

 

"If you choose the S Curve parameter, a positive setting will reduce the sensitivity of the control around the neutral point and will increase responsiveness at the extreme values."

 

In game the slider allow adjust the "S Curve" only in positive setting.

 

When you set any value above 0.00 will notice that in the right graphs bar that OUT (for game) became delayed relative to IN (from joystick), but only in the middle part of joystick movement.

 

"...the spitfire is rather low turning,"

 

Then, the available in game adjust may work in opposite way that you expect.

 

Try again with JoystickCurves - topics explaining how use:

 

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=382944327

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6497

 

BT - Since Joystick Curves rely on vJoy and this software have issues for install in Windows 10 with 1903 update, a new signed version was release this week:

 

https://github.com/jshafer817/vJoy/releases

 

I think that Saitek software allow you set the same curve adjust of Joystick Curves.

 

Edited by Sokol1

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On 7/11/2019 at 7:44 AM, Sakivano said:

...somebody told about changing a section in the conf.ini. I changed it as follows:

[rts_joystick]
X=0 1 2 3 4 5 7 9 12 16 21 27 32 38 46 53 61 70 81 93 100 0
Y=0 1 2 3 4 5 7 9 12 16 21 27 32 38 46 55 66 79 95 100 0
Z=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
FF=0
U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1X=0 1 6 10 15 22 33 44 58 72 100 0
1Y=0 1 6 10 16 23 31 43 56 73 100 0
1Z=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RX=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RY=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RZ=0 1 4 8 13 21 28 39 52 69 100 0
1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0

 

 

Interesting, because the default conf.ini (in Documents\1C Soft Club...) have nothing like this, just 

 

[rts_joystick]
FF=1

 

[core]

 

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