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I've been doing single missions for months, learning to fly various aircraft, learning the game etc etc

 

I finally go onto Career mode and straight away I notice stuttering as I'm playing. Nothing seems to help. I'm running with a GTX  1080TI and everything maxed out, never drops a frame and with a G Sync monitor.

 

The game is flawlessly smooth in the other game modes even with crazy amounts of other aircraft in the sky. I just cant believe it, so disappointing. I have been waiting to do the career mode in so so long.

 

I have just checked a few older posts from a while ago and it seems its not going to be fixed. Does anyone know if this stuttering happens in the scripted campaigns available?

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22 minutes ago, marshall said:

I've been doing single missions for months, learning to fly various aircraft, learning the game etc etc

 

I finally go onto Career mode and straight away I notice stuttering as I'm playing. Nothing seems to help. I'm running with a GTX  1080TI and everything maxed out, never drops a frame and with a G Sync monitor.

 

The game is flawlessly smooth in the other game modes even with crazy amounts of other aircraft in the sky. I just cant believe it, so disappointing. I have been waiting to do the career mode in so so long.

 

I have just checked a few older posts from a while ago and it seems its not going to be fixed. Does anyone know if this stuttering happens in the scripted campaigns available?

 

I think career can be quite CPU intensive. At one point I think I saw advice suggesting people played in a borderless window mode as opposed to full screen. 

One thing that is worth a try imo is to use balanced settings. This has helped me in VR.

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I have tried all front line density settings and they all result in the same stuttering. 

 

I will try the borderless windows mode but I don't hold out much hope all the same. thanks

 

Again I have tried to lower settings but even at absolutely everything maxed out I do not drop a single frame, it just seems to be something with career mode. I would understand I bit more if I suddenly dropped to 45 fps or something but i'm at 100fps solid.

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These are my settings and it stopped the stuttering. It is a long standing issue and it needs to be fixed by the devs. Also try forcing vsync off in the nvidia control panel for iL-2. 


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Career has been the most hardware intensive mode on the game. Most need to lower graphics settings to play it.

 

Scripted campaigns do not suffer from these issues nearly as much. 

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Turning on the 4k texture setting fixed all the stuttering I had, I'd say give that a try

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6 hours ago, Geronimo553 said:

These are my settings and it stopped the stuttering. It is a long standing issue and it needs to be fixed by the devs. Also try forcing vsync off in the nvidia control panel for iL-2. 


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Interesting. Can you spot contacts properly against the terrain and at long range with these settings? 

 

I ask cause most guides would advise to turn on "sharpen" , use minimal gamma, blurred landscape filter, and HDR. Then set max brightness on the screen and slightly lower resolution than 1080p to spot better. 

 

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13 minutes ago, Fennec said:

 

Interesting. Can you spot contacts properly against the terrain and at long range with these settings? 

 

I ask cause most guides would advise to turn on "sharpen" , use minimal gamma, blurred landscape filter, and HDR. Then set max brightness on the screen and slightly lower resolution than 1080p to spot better. 

 

 

I have no issue with it. Also I can tell you now blurred only makes the ground blurry about 7km away. It is rather a useless waste of processing power. If you enable HDR which makes the game lighting much brighter. Then you should turn down the gamma.

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Why no ssao, hdr, vsync, sharpen??? Does it help and in what way?

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4 hours ago, Mac_Messer said:

Why no ssao, hdr, vsync, sharpen??? Does it help and in what way?


ssao - makes it very dark in the evening

HDR - makes dark areas light and overall lighting bright. colors almost look washed out.

sharpen - personal preference. I also noted better fps of 1-3 without it.
vsync - off both ingame and in nvidia control panel offers the least stutter and best performance.
also don't forget to select "prefer maximum performance" in power management mode of nvidia control panel.
 

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You should set vsync

in Game off and

in Nvidia control Panel on

for your gsync Monitor.

 

Reduce the Horizon distance to 100 km 

Reduce the Front activity to lowest.

This reduce CPU usage, which cause the stuttering.

 

 

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What about your CPU? Can you tell us the whole configuration?

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I get screen tearing bad if I dont have Vsync on, even on my 144 hz monitor

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Need to know which CPU & RAM you're working with. Graphics matter here but not as much as RAM and CPU because the most intensive parts here are all of the AI units.

 

I can play Career mode just fine at medium frontline intensity (the odd slowdown occurs and time compression is pointless). If I go higher it gets too intense. There are limits to what sims can do and this is one of those things where its a very computationally complex thing to manage.

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Will this game use two pairs of RAM (32gb) efficiently, or is it the Mobo/clockrates on one pair that matter?  Obviously the game will not use anywhere close to 32gb, or even 16gb, but will it use 4 sticks of 8gb? Or just two of them?

 

Also, does it utilize separate cores on processors?  Is it one of those games (like Arma 3, or Cities: Skylines) that only uses one core?

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8 hours ago, SJ_Butcher said:

What about your CPU? Can you tell us the whole configuration?

 

7 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

Need to know which CPU & RAM you're working with. Graphics matter here but not as much as RAM and CPU because the most intensive parts here are all of the AI units.

 

I can play Career mode just fine at medium frontline intensity (the odd slowdown occurs and time compression is pointless). If I go higher it gets too intense. There are limits to what sims can do and this is one of those things where its a very computationally complex thing to manage.

 

I have 8gb ram and an i5 7800 cpu and a 1080ti .. Acer Predator 3440x1400 g sync monitor

 

CPU is at 32 % whilst running a career mission, graphics card hovering around 60% usage. 

 

I use a mouse to move my viewpoint around and it's here where the micro stuttering is present. No matter what setting high or low, or front line density etc...the career mode produces this stuttering. I've been playing some scripted campaigns over the last few days and like all other modes including online there are no micro stutters at all. 

 

Like I've said before my frame rate is 100fps...I don't experience slow down or lag it's just this really anoying micro judder as I'm looking around. I believe it's just something wrong with the career mode.

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On 5/5/2019 at 2:02 PM, marshall said:

I've been doing single missions for months, learning to fly various aircraft, learning the game etc etc

 

I finally go onto Career mode and straight away I notice stuttering as I'm playing. Nothing seems to help. I'm running with a GTX  1080TI and everything maxed out, never drops a frame and with a G Sync monitor.

 

The game is flawlessly smooth in the other game modes even with crazy amounts of other aircraft in the sky. I just cant believe it, so disappointing. I have been waiting to do the career mode in so so long.

 

I have just checked a few older posts from a while ago and it seems its not going to be fixed. Does anyone know if this stuttering happens in the scripted campaigns available?

Download PWGC for free.  You can run campaigns with it and it makes the missions appear in your single missoons directory.  Id say its just as good as career mode.  Maybe a little less atmospheric because you have to alt tab between missions to put in kill claims but its like a 5 min job to install and get going.

Oh and if your internet doesnt work you still have a campaign! It also lets you fly in Stalingrad and Kuban when career mode wont (earlier) and has slightly different dates for plane introductions that are more realistic.  So for example Yak1Bs in Stalingrad..

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3 hours ago, Sublime said:

Download PWGC for free.  You can run campaigns with it and it makes the missions appear in your single missoons directory.  Id say its just as good as career mode.  Maybe a little less atmospheric because you have to alt tab between missions to put in kill claims but its like a 5 min job to install and get going.

Oh and if your internet doesnt work you still have a campaign! It also lets you fly in Stalingrad and Kuban when career mode wont (earlier) and has slightly different dates for plane introductions that are more realistic.  So for example Yak1Bs in Stalingrad..

 

That's great thanks for that. I've just downloaded 2 scripted campaigns from the forum which I'm really impressed with. Are the campaigns the same sort of thing using PWCG??

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Different.  Not scripted. But for one you csn edit the files and actually put sny plane in at any date. Even better is you csn fly Kuban and zstalingrad waay earlier than career mod and its historicslly correct. Also Yak1Bs and zyak7bs were over Stalingrad. And Me109 G6s were introduced early than career mode. Same with g4s and g2s. This is remedied.

Scripted campaigns are great and almost works of art. The missions will always have a story and excitement.

Pwgc is a dynamic campign. You ay fly a mission with no action.

That said I turn density to max and see waaat more planes than career mode but get waaay better frames.  More variety in enemy plane types as well.

Also in career mode losses can affec tyoure squad but you.ll never rum out. I need to test pwgc a lot more - but the makers take suggestions and its moddable. That said in PWGC you can run out and yiur squad will stop flying for days or whatever.  Also itd hard at first unless you write it down. But call signs stay same and thats priceless.  In career mode u dont even know the bombers youre escorting call sign. So unrealistic. Pwgc everyone has the same callsigns. You may not know where the fights happening but knowing ur bombers ur escorting is being attacked can be huge. Knowing the fighter squad near your AF is in combat etc.

Also theres intel reports on equipment. This is wwhat I mean about testing. Ive definitely noticed after one savage battle where I was with 4 109s g6s and we had Fw190s nearby. In a furball with about 20 luftwaffe 20 or 30 VVS. Mostly Yak 1bs and7bs and P39s. We mauled them. Lost 2 planes. Shot down at least 14 or 15.

I noticed a huge drop in enemy fightr4 activity especially near gelendhik 3 where the Yaks and P39s were based !  I also heard thus from others. I dont know id the enemy will truky run out but there is an equipment depot in game besides what the airfields have. And im bot certain byt IIRC damage IS persistent in PWGC. Therefore I think its possible to really maul enemy air ops to the point you may make some difference. You arent winning a campaign but you can probably say make HS129s amand Ju87s almost disappesr. If you uses your intel to id their bases and went ajd blew their parked planes and fkying planes and veered from your missions to target thise.. Since the game tracks plane losses I could easily see you putting German CAS out of action or in really bad shape for awile.

So to answer. No not same as scripted i dl.d slme scripted and cudnt make them work. Any advixe and any free ones youbrecommend? I like sea dragons but ut was tiresome finishig the orientstion flights.

Pwgc my ptoblem is I aant to fly everything. I have a 110 G2 campaign in Kuban feb 42 iirc.  I have a me106 g6 july 43.  Vvs july 43 la5Fs. Waitinf for the FNs.  VVS lend lease P40s over Stalingrad.  FW190S feb 42 in Kuban (yes thjs is a stretch as first fw190s were arnd then butnin the west sue me)

Also a stalingrad oct vvs flying yak1bs and yak7bs.  Bith were available in BoS historically not just BoK and irs awesime seeing em.

Somelese showed me hiw i coukd edit when planes were available. Im not gonna give myslef a La5FN in Oct 41 but some limits are balance issues. No Mc202s until 42. Pwgc hamdled it otherwise id have g2s and g4s by early 42.

Some soviet planes too. The p39 is fine.  The mig 3 stays arnd longer in PwGc. Yaks are abailable earlier like historically..

But it is a dynamic campaign.

Whats cool is u dont have to fly campaign missikns but pwgc yoh can hit scrub no penalty itll jeeo rwgenwrating missions until you fins what u want.  Anti shippjng? Anti airfueld? Scramble? Cap? Offenaive air? Lone wolf.. Etc.

Also i dont understand it sll yet but its got optioms for everything. You csn pht how often youlls see planes how often theyll stay a distajce frokm yohr airbase and chances tbst rule gets broken. Jts grest tbh

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On 5/5/2019 at 10:59 PM, Geronimo553 said:

These are my settings and it stopped the stuttering. It is a long standing issue and it needs to be fixed by the devs. Also try forcing vsync off in the nvidia control panel for iL-2. 


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Thanks for the info. Did wonders for my frame rate! 😀

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Indeed!  

 

@Geronimo553 settings are a MUST TRY !!!

 

Made Wonders for my IL-2 !!!
 

Thanks Geronimo!!!!!!

 

 

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If anyone would like a couple more frames near the ground for ground attack or on the deck combat. Lower your grassing setting to 0 in the startup config file. I noticed lag/stutter near the ground last year. So I removed the grass detail entirely and that small problem mostly went away. If you change your settings while in game you will need to reset the grass distance to 0 in the config again. You will notice the grass on the ground again if you forget. The default grass render distance is 100 meters and that is the lowest the in game menu will allow.  So this small change removes that extra computer process of grass when near the ground.

Personally I rather just remove grass entirely anyway. As it looks ugly with only a small circular patch of 2d grass on the ground following us as we move.



If you edit this file then be sure to keep a backup of the original and one with your preferred settings incase something goes wrong. I also like to just copy paste the entire config file if I'm trying new settings. Just paste the config file with these settings into the data folder and tada done. No need to worry about it in game. 

 

Set grass distance to " 0.0 " and here is what my config looks like for the settings shown in my above post.
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Startup.config location is in the iL-2 directory and data folder
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I did not expect such a response and overall positive feedback from sharing my graphics settings. I hope this additional small adjustment will help those people as well.  I have several other small adjustments if anyone is interested. 

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I've had the stutter issue in the campaign mode as well (happening rarely, like once in 20 times)! However, rebooting the rig appeared to fix the problem so I didn't bother to investigate further.

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On 5/8/2019 at 7:57 AM, Sublime said:

Please go on

 

I will produce another thread so other people can find it more easily. I will link it here once it is finished. 😃

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On 5/11/2019 at 4:40 AM, Geronimo553 said:

 

I will produce another thread so other people can find it more easily. I will link it here once it is finished. 😃

 

The thread is now in progress. Feel free to post any further questions there and I will be adding additional segments to it. Hopefully it can help you guys out.
 



@Sublime @CrazyDuck @jcomm-in-il2 @Holtzauge @marshall @Mac_Messer

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On 5/7/2019 at 11:00 AM, marshall said:

I have 8gb ram 

 

I had stutter due to ram. Although in my case it was due to timings and clocking, so I overclocked my 16 GB DDR-3  RAM to 2133 Mhz which fixed most of my microstutters. Now I think as you are probably using DDR4 3200 Mhz RAM your problem is related to only having 8 GB of it, for a gaming PC that is definitely a bottleneck, although of course you cannot be sure that it will fix your issues when you upgrade it.

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