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6 hours ago, Bilbo_Baggins said:

This is the first time I've seen a cheater in front of my eyes and I was somewhat dumbfounded. I've only seen videos of it before this. 

 

Wasn't there a Il2 Security Branch set up not long ago for these purposes? 

This is the WOL discord. U need send a message to DenLarik and ask him to analyze the record files, it needs to work with tacview. Good luck.

https://discord.gg/BK7zv3

 

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On 11/12/2020 at 10:14 AM, Lolrawr said:

why is this server so red biased? BoBP map has no k4, d9, me262 while allies have tempest and 51s. Rest of the maps also la5s galore while almost no fw190s. i guess the russian have to win somewhere somehow. Pathetic.

Just look this beauty ! these are the people who enjoy most this server! 

 

( dont even ask why blue team losses always , this people are the owners of the joy )

 

I guess if some day these mens can fly for the blue side, and make some balance.

 

Just saying.

 

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On 11/12/2020 at 12:14 PM, Lolrawr said:

why is this server so red biased?

In a few days the Hurricane II will be added to the WOL, however, with a restriction for 2x 40mm armament. If you go on a 1942 mission, you will notice that the La-5 does not have an engine modification, so this La-5 without the "F" engine heats up fast, flies more slowly than a 109 in order to mantain the egine cool. Planes like Yak, Mig, and all Reds planes have restrictions. The extra armaments of some German planes have restrictions depending on the year they enter service. 

 

On 11/12/2020 at 12:14 PM, Lolrawr said:

 Rest of the maps also la5s galore while almost no fw190s.

I play Red and Blue. In early 2019 I played in WOL only with BOS, in Blue my KD was positive (http://il2stat.aviaskins.com:8008/en/pilot/22064/LUZITANO/?tour=44). The Blues have the best planes and have the 190A-3 in Stalingrad, that plane never flew over Stalingrad! The best Red plane is the La-5FN which is limited on most maps, in the 1943 maps there are a lot more 190 A-5 than La-5FN.
 

On 11/12/2020 at 12:14 PM, Lolrawr said:

BoBP map has no k4, d9, me262 while allies have tempest and 51s.

In the summer of 1944 the Germans did not have the 190D and 109K because they had not yet been developed, the jet was also not used in that period.

 

The day you play Red you will change your mind. Take Mig in 1941 it will be fun, see the joy of flying with Red stuffs like Mig, LaGG, La-5 in stalingrad then tell me what you think.

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If there is no russian bias, then explain to me why germans are not allowed to remove the armored headrest from 109 f4 in 41 missions, and in 42 missions there is usually a limited number of 'modified' f4s or it's possible only if you fly from the most remote airfield. But on f2 or e7 this is always allowed. It's almost as if you want to blindfold players if they want the best fighter.

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Lubos, the armoured head rest was rarely, if at all removed from the chair of the 109, generally. So I believe the server is trying to stay true to historical accuracy in that regard.

 

However, if this is the case, I have no idea why the Lagg-3 continues to have the VYa-23mm cannon as it was also rarely used, yet it is always unlocked on the server.

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On 12/2/2020 at 3:02 PM, Tipsi said:

So I believe the server is trying to stay true to historical accuracy in that regard.

 

Its always historical accuracy when its in favor of the reds.

Wheres the historical accuracy with Yak 7b available on 1942 maps?

 

On 11/24/2020 at 6:57 PM, LUZITANO said:

 If you go on a 1942 mission, you will notice that the La-5 does not have an engine modification, so this La-5 without the "F" engine heats up fast

 

Maybe learn some engine management? maybe not flying at 100% all the time? i don't know, i think the problem here is between the chair and joystick.

 

On 11/24/2020 at 6:57 PM, LUZITANO said:

flies more slowly than a 109

 

Press X to doubt.

 

On 11/24/2020 at 6:57 PM, LUZITANO said:

190A-3 in Stalingrad, that plane never flew over Stalingrad!

 

Give me a break on that one, i'm sure peshka, il2 and La5 flew over Eidenhoven. The server doesn't even trie to maintan historical accuracy.

You can defend it all you want but that doesn't remove the facts that are obvious.

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3 hours ago, Lolrawr said:

Maybe learn some engine management? maybe not flying at 100% all the time? i don't know, i think the problem here is between the chair and joystick.

No offense, but... You are a kind of noob. The KD is worse on Red side.
http://il2stat.aviaskins.com:8008/en/pilot/18878/Lolrawr/?tour=65
 

3 hours ago, Lolrawr said:

Give me a break on that one, i'm sure peshka, il2 and La5 flew over Eidenhoven. The server doesn't even trie to maintan historical accuracy.

You can defend it all you want but that doesn't remove the facts that are obvious.

You want to compare the best fighter in 1942 (190 A-3) with outdated La-5 and Pe-2 in 1944 vs the 190 A-8 and 190 G-14. "Nice"...
But, I don't remember seeing Soviet planes on the "Ardennes" mission. If you are talking about late east front missions adapted on the Bodenplatte map,  this is the most common thing that exists in any simulator or server.

 

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3 minutes ago, LUZITANO said:

You want to buy the best fighter in 1942 with outdated La-5 and Pe-2 over the 190 A-8 and 190 G-14. You need to be more honest.

 

I don't think you understood my point. Let me try to explain it better. You said that Fw190 A3 is not available because it didn't fly irl on those missions that the ingame maps tries to portray, but almost all maps contain planes that didn't fly those mission irl.

 

You insist that A3 is best fighter, whats the second best plane in your opinion? What about the 3rd best? 4th, 5th, etc.? When you remove number 1, number 2 becomes the new number 1 so your logic is a bit off.

In my opinion of "a kind of noob" the FW is a weaker fighter than the F4/G2 when flown by an average Joe (of which this server has plenty of), its a less forgiving aircraft. Also VVS can deal with it just fine.

 

I also fly Red alot, i think twice as much than blue so i don't think i'm blue biased here, it's just what i honestly feel, and i do feel that blue side is extremly gimped plane wise and modification wise on almost all of the maps. Ofcourse you can disagree with me on that.

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On 12/4/2020 at 10:11 AM, Lolrawr said:

You insist that A3 is best fighter, whats the second best plane in your opinion? What about the 3rd best? 4th, 5th, etc.? When you remove number 1, number 2 becomes the new number 1 so your logic is a bit off.

The 190 A in 1942 was the best aircraft in the world. Was faster and better armed. Never flew over Stalingrad. 

The point is not to be 100% historical, the real point is "there is no 'advantage' to the Reds". All missions until the summer of 1943, the Luftwaffe has the best equipment.


The limited planes are the 109 F-4 and G-2 in 1942, some do not have the option of removing the headrest or adding extra weapons. To be honest I don't feel at a disadvantage flying with or without the head rest. The 190A has some extra cannon limitations on the first missions they appear, but it still has more ammo than any Red fighter. After 1942 missions the 109 usually has an option of armored headrest glass, this modification allows Blue pilots to see behind and still protects them.
 

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On 12/2/2020 at 2:02 PM, Tipsi said:

Lubos, the armoured head rest was rarely, if at all removed from the chair of the 109, generally. So I believe the server is trying to stay true to historical accuracy in that regard.

 

However, if this is the case, I have no idea why the Lagg-3 continues to have the VYa-23mm cannon as it was also rarely used, yet it is always unlocked on the server.

 

If the armored head rest was rarely removed, then why can we remove it from the F2 and E7 but not F4? Seems to me like the server mods are basically telling us that either you take the best fighter, but we'll blindfold you, or you'll take a slower plane and we'll allow you to see.

 

Or why can I remove the headrest if I select the most remote airfield, but not on the airfields that are close to the frontline?

 

The issue is also made worse by the fact that if you land a modified F4, then only the unmodified F4 is resupplied on the airfield.

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4 hours ago, Lubos said:

If the armored head rest was rarely removed, then why can we remove it from the F2 and E7 but not F4? Seems to me like the server mods are basically telling us that either you take the best fighter, but we'll blindfold you, or you'll take a slower plane and we'll allow you to see.

This modification may have this function, but you need to look at it from another perspective.
 

Basically the Luftwaffe has only 1 aircraft until 1942, the 109 with versions E, F and G. On the other hand the Reds have the MiG, I-16, Yak, P-40, etc... Red planes are different from each, with different characteristics, but with performance equal to or inferior than the 109 F-2.
 

When the red team has a lot of bad fighters options, they are slow, so ... Removing the head rest is an incentive for players on the blue team to choose other planes than the best 109 F-4 and 109 G-2. But, even these variants can remove the head rest, not all, but usualy some are separated as 109 "mod" and with this option.

It's not that difficult to play with a armored headrest, sometimes I forget to remove it.

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6 hours ago, LUZITANO said:

 

When the red team has a lot of bad fighters options, they are slow, so ... Removing the head rest is an incentive for players on the blue team to choose other planes than the best 109 F-4 and 109 G-2. But, even these variants can remove the head rest, not all, but usualy some are separated as 109 "mod" and with this option.

It's not that difficult to play with a armored headrest, sometimes I forget to remove it.

 

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14 hours ago, LUZITANO said:

the real point is "there is no 'advantage' to the Reds".

 

6 hours ago, LUZITANO said:

Removing the head rest is an incentive for players on the blue team to choose other planes than the best 109 F-4 and 109 G-2.

 

You seem to be contradicting yourself quite alot.

 

Also, whats the reason for the G6 30mm also being very restricted? Some would say that it can shoot down Il2 and Peshkas which is a NONO in the VVS books.

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19 hours ago, LUZITANO said:

This modification may have this function, but you need to look at it from another perspective.
 

Basically the Luftwaffe has only 1 aircraft until 1942, the 109 with versions E, F and G. On the other hand the Reds have the MiG, I-16, Yak, P-40, etc... Red planes are different from each, with different characteristics, but with performance equal to or inferior than the 109 F-2.
 

When the red team has a lot of bad fighters options, they are slow, so ... Removing the head rest is an incentive for players on the blue team to choose other planes than the best 109 F-4 and 109 G-2. But, even these variants can remove the head rest, not all, but usualy some are separated as 109 "mod" and with this option.

It's not that difficult to play with a armored headrest, sometimes I forget to remove it.

 

Well, thanks for admitting that there indeed is Russian bias.

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On 12/5/2020 at 1:11 AM, Lolrawr said:

 

 

You seem to be contradicting yourself quite alot.

 

Also, whats the reason for the G6 30mm also being very restricted? Some would say that it can shoot down Il2 and Peshkas which is a NONO in the VVS books.


I think this armored headrest seat was not easily removable. I have Adolf Galland's book, he flew using it, even though he didn't want to. Anyway, it could be removed, but not always. Do you really think that all 109 G-6s used the 30 mm cannon? It was limited, not least because it only entered service in August 1943, becoming more common months later.

I think the 109 F-2 and the 109 E-7 are good enough to shootdown any Red BOM or BOS planes. But the 109 F-4 and 109 G-2 is far superior. This headrest armored protection can hinder back visibility, but not so much. So you're complaining, even flying the best planes in 42, you can't remove your headrest, but you forgot that this was the default for the 109.

As if every month the blues destroy an average of 3,000 more planes than the Reds. "Oh, poor people punished by such an unfair 'bias server', oh cruel world"!
 

On 12/4/2020 at 6:33 PM, LUZITANO said:

Removing the head rest is an incentive for players on the blue team to choose other planes than the best 109 F-4 and 109 G-2. But, even these variants can remove the head rest, not all, but usualy some are separated as 109 "mod" and with this option.

On 12/5/2020 at 12:35 AM, GOA_Karaya_CRI*VR* said:

 

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21 hours ago, Lubos said:

 

Well, thanks for admitting that there indeed is Russian bias.

It is the second time that you guys take "some part" of what I say and distort my speech.
Put my full quote pls.

On 12/4/2020 at 6:33 PM, LUZITANO said:

This modification MAY have this function, but you need to look at it from another perspective.


Incentive players to use other 109 variants and block the option to remove the armored headrest are different things that can happen at the same time.
And even yet they separate a number of these variants as "mod" that it is possible to remove the armored headrest.

The point is that the armored headrest was standard for the 109 from 1941.

When I said that, you didn't stop to think that all 109 could have this option (remove headrest) blocked. They may be encouraging people to fly models like the 109 E-7 or 109 F-2 on 1942 missions, but that's not all. Locking the headrest has three functions. 1 - It is really historic. 2 - It may be encouraging players to fly underdogs, remembering that the Red team only flies underdogs. 3 - Balance. Although the headrest does not affect the performance of the 109 at all, I have always flown with it and never had any visibility problems. 

I have known the IL-2 forum for a few years, this cry about headrest is quite old.
When I started playing IL-2 online on Blue's side at WOL, I understood that this claim is totally unreasonable.
Let's take "MoscowKlin41maut" for example. At first it was supposed to be a 1941 map, but some people don't have BOM. The Red team takes off with a lot of MiG, P-40, I-16 ... Is it fair for the German team to take off with the 109 F-4 (almost only this model) and have all the modifications released? This MiG has limited weapons. 109 F-4 with or without the headrest remain far superior to any Soviet airplane until 1942.


But... if you think that the server is "RussianBias", my friends ... I have been playing IL-2 for over 10 years. On the server "Spit vs 109" of the old IL-2-1946 the owner of the server who was a British gentleman put the 109 F-4 to fight against the Spitfire VIII (in 42 missions). Yes ... and Spitfire VIII is better than Spitfire IX.

WOL is fine, it is actually quite advantageous to fly with Germany.
 

On 11/24/2020 at 12:57 PM, LUZITANO said:

In a few days the Hurricane II will be added to the WOL, however, with a restriction for 2x 40mm armament. 


I read that in 1942 the Hurricane MkIIC with 4x cannons was already available on the Soviet front and being used by some VVS squadrons.
But on the Caucasus summer mission, that Hurricane modification is not available.

Are you seeing anyone complaining that the Server is GermanBiased? No. 


Because people understand that there is a concern with the history, with game balance, etc ... Perhaps the Hurricanes IIC were not available in considerable numbers in the Caucasus, or ... perhaps the Server will only release Hurricane's "C" weaponry in 1943 missions, to maintain balance.

And I didn't even expect that they would remove the 4x cannons, considering that the Hurricane II is so slow, but that's okay ... I can see that restrictions are normal on almost all planes. When a "German" player starts to complain about the server feeling wronged, the motivation is usually the same, there are people who have this concept of injustice regarding the game and servers already pre-established, and I see this happening all the time.

WOL Hurricane options at "DefenceofCaucaus42ksum". Also, some skins are locked:
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"As if every month the blues destroy an average of 3,000 more planes than the Reds. "Oh, poor people punished by such an unfair 'bias server', oh cruel world"!"

The reason is that Blue players prefer fighters to bombers (because the available choices is horrible!) , and a lot of red players fly ground attack planes like IL2 and bombers like Pe2. 

This is also the reason why Red wins more than 90% of the missions. 

 

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1 hour ago, zhihengcao said:

The reason is that Blue players prefer fighters to bombers (because the available choices is horrible!) , and a lot of red players fly ground attack planes like IL2 and bombers like Pe2. 

This is also the reason why Red wins more than 90% of the missions. 

 

Imagine a server that in the 1942 battles at Stalingrad, all German fighters had unlocked modifications. What would happen? This server would not be popular. Reds players, especially bombers, would migrate to another server. The German team would be bigger, but I bet it would never end the missions, it would be that boredom, those groups of Herich Hartmanns flying and destroying enemy fighters, all wanting to be a star and ruining the game. And if they lose a dogfight "it is not the fault of the skill, it is the fault of the game that is bias", etc, etc...

I've seen it happen.

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hello everybody,

 

since a couple of month the server kick me with the message "Error #10009: Game server connection lost". It kicks me after 5-30 min but Ping is fine. There is no solution online except to connect through a VPN (really?). Has anybody another solution for that??

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On 12/4/2020 at 1:45 PM, Lubos said:

 Seems to me like the server mods are basically telling us that either you take the best fighter, but we'll blindfold you, or you'll take a slower plane and we'll allow you to see.

I am going to tell you a story, I was supposed to have posted this before, but I had to take time to read my old Galland book and translating from Portuguese, is not easy.

"My new mechanic in those days, Corporal Meyer, had incorporated an additional head shield, which I ignored. As a result, when I closed the cabin, I headbanged tremendously, even though the good man's intentions were excellent. I complained to him, but soon after I regretted it. In fact, on that same day, July 2 (1941), I returned to my combat activities and this first flight against the enemy narrowly was my last. This is how things went: a formation of bombers with their fighter escort attacked St. Omer. I led my entire regiment to meet the enemy; I managed to reach a favorable attack position; I gave the order to attack and launched myself, crossing the fighter escort, on the bombers. In a smooth right turn I opened fire on a Blenheim from  a distance of 200 meters, until I almost crash on him. Plates and other parts detached from the fuselage and the right side engine, and the last thing I saw was flames and smoke, later its rests were located; I myself could not observe his fall, since I was involved in a strong fight with the escort (many Spitfire). While exchanging shots with one, I was hit by fire from the other and the situation got serious. My cabin was destroyed and again my head was "the lucky one". Blood was running down my face ... I then feared the "black vision". All that "cannot happen" is to lose consciousness at that moment! With all my strength, I managed to escape the Sptifire and land, even injured, but saved! My machine (109) had received several impacts and the new reinforced armor for the head, had exploded a 20 mm grenade. Some sutures at the Hardinghem hospital fixed my head; but there was no doubt: in the absence of Cape Meyer's shield plate, surgeons would have had nowhere to put the needle!"

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Adolf Galland on a 109 F-2, 1941 France. From my 540 pages Galland book.

If Adolf Galland, who at that time was Oberstleutnant and a Big Shot at the luftwaffe, had to fly with this modification. Why you, which is a mere virtual official pilot would not fly with the extra armor to the head?

Many blue pilots should thank  WOL admins for prohibiting remove the armored headrest. I've landed so many times my 109 full of holes due the dogfight, the headrest may have saved many of my online lives.

To do it justice, I separated two missions from the WOL in 1942 and analyzed the Blue and Red options.

1942 missions, in both ORDER_227-summer and South-autumn:


109
The only fighters I saw with totally free modifications were the 109 F-2 and E-7 "JABO mod". Half or almost 109 F-4 can remove the armored headrest. The 109 G-2 has as only option of modification the armored glass for headrest, which is the best of all. You can see its back and be protected by the armored glass. The modification for gun pods is almost non-existent, but one of the bases has some 109 F-4s with 15 mm gun pods. I've used this type of modification, it has always been very efficient. 109 F-4 or G-2 are king above 2k altitude, they are fast and well armed.

190
When you see the trailer about the battle of Stalingrad, it only shows 109 G-2. @GOA_Karaya_CRI*VR* know what i'm talking about. The 190 entered late 1942, at Velieki Luki, which is why this map (of the Moscow region) is included in the BOS. The WOL does not include the 190 A-3 on missions in the summer of 1942, but it is possible to fly the 190 in relatively high numbers on the "South42saut" map. The cannons that the 190 can add are those with 60 howitzers per wing, which makes sense since they were the first cannons available for that 190. The 190 is faster and better armed than any Allied fighter, it is incomparably the best and it is not historic to be flying over Stalingrad.

Yak-1, Yak-7B, I-16, P-40, LaGG-3 and P-39
All those planes have rocket and bomb restrictions. The LaGG-3 and I-16 can add cannons as a modification, but they carry little ammo. 23mm for the LaGG-3 is allowed, it doesn't change the fact that the LaGG-3 is a terrible dogfight plane.

MiG-3
All MiG have bomb and rocket restrictions. In both missions the MiG has gun pod modification restrictions. Only in the order 227 mission do some MiGs in the most remote airfield have gun pods, but (strangely) these MiGs have cannon and machine gun modifications blocked.

La-5
It is a good allied fighter, but without the engine modification it is almost useless, it only works in winter. The modified engine became the standard, the first warmed up very fast, in the simulator this drastically interferes with performance because the engine heats up even in nominal mode! I consider the 109 F-4 and G-2 to be far superior to the La-5 without the engine modification. WOL only allow this engine modification in missions at spring of 1943 or beyond!

Hurricane II
Historically, it already had squadrons using 4x 20mm guns in Stalingrad, summer 1942. But this modification is blocked in the "order227" mission and only a small number of Hurricane II is available with restrictions for hispanos and 40mm anti tank guns. On the "South42saut" map the Hurricane has 4x 20mm options, but only on one of the airfields in limited numbers.

Basically I think fair play on WOL. The armored headrest does not disturb as much and protects the pilot, the modification of armored glass I learned to use in WOL.

 

 

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1 hour ago, LUZITANO said:

 

 

 

190
When you see the trailer about the battle of Stalingrad, it only shows 109 G-2. @GOA_Karaya_CRI*VR* know what i'm talking about. The 190 entered late 1942, at Velieki Luki, which is why this map (of the Moscow region) is included in the BOS. The WOL does not include the 190 A-3 on missions in the summer of 1942, but it is possible to fly the 190 in relatively high numbers on the "South42saut" map. The cannons that the 190 can add are those with 60 howitzers per wing, which makes sense since they were the first cannons available for that 190. The 190 is faster and better armed than any Allied fighter, it is incomparably the best and it is not historic to be flying over Stalingrad.

 

 

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Continue defendendo o indefensável  @LUZITANO

 

 

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AXIS MEDALS AND AWARDS GUIDE 2020

 

Some of the descriptors for the Axis Awards can be a little confusing so I have put together a quick guide to help players out.

 

The main thing that Axis players should realize is that many of the 'higher' level medals cannot be accessed until the Cross for Military Merit 2nd Degree (with swords in bronze) has been unlocked. Unfortunately this medal is very difficult to earn so players may want to do down the Iron Cross route which has easier requirements.

 

Good luck getting the Knights Cross with Golden Oak leaves, Swords and Diamonds - after about two years of playing this is the first month I’ve been awarded it! :)

 

https: //www.dropbox....s 2020.pdf? dl = 0

 

 

Hope this helps!

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Hi Gents,

 

I dunno whom to ask, but in the last 1 hour I had 4 disconnect out of four missions (after around 5-10 minutes of flight). I never had such thing in other server. Could someone check if the problem is on my side, or on server side please?

 

Thanks for feedback

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On 3/27/2021 at 8:23 AM, TP-Gosho said:

If you get heavily damaged and disconnect, that is not counted as a kill?


Had 2 of these tonight - first one a fighter chasing Merlin that I hit very badly and it was spiralling down into the sea. The second was a Pe2 that I set on fire. 
 

Way it goes. 
 

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On 4/16/2021 at 3:50 AM, von_Tom said:


Had 2 of these tonight - first one a fighter chasing Merlin that I hit very badly and it was spiralling down into the sea. The second was a Pe2 that I set on fire. 
 

Way it goes. 
 

von Tom

Russian bias 🤣

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Hi! We need help on stats on wol server!Can admin help? Our squad =VARP= have 2 registrated squad on stats one with full team and one with only 2 players.Can you remove this squad with 2 players because we cannot se other stats with full team

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