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[BUG REPORT] 20mm HE Ammunition

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A little update, Han replied to my message:

 

According to him, HE damage is based on "accumulated practical data" which is translated into simple parameters like HE load, calibre and mass.

 

I have absolutely no clue what "accumulated practical data" means and i did not get an explanation when asked. As far as i am aware there is next to no data of 20mm HE damage tests except for the one mentioned in this thread. Also i think that Han only skipped over this post sadly, because he did not understand the intention of it in the first place. Then again, i guess it says a lot about how busy he is when he replies on a message after nearly 3 month.

 

As far as my tests and my short conversation with Han goes, i am of the opinion that the 20mm HE damage is more or less decided on a whim and a very debatable topic to say the least. 

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The game has AP and HE ammo at the actual state? Looks like, Minengeschoss needs a new way of Damage calculation + extended damage model.

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It was far from an automated message, yet it left important questions unanswered. Everything points towards that the damage values of the different 20mm HE rounds were decided on a whim more or less without any actual valid data.

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Not just sturdier planes. The damage model is much more diverse now. For example, fuel tanks in the wings are a serious weak point now. However this thread is not supposed to be about the damage model. 

 

In terms of the 20mm HE it seems that there weren't any changes done to it and the changes don't affect how they perform.

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2 hours ago, III./JG5_seaflanker819 said:

in 3.008 seem every plane need more shell to destroy, the plane increase or the cannon decrease?

 

Possibly both. The DD mentioned changes to the plane, for instance that there was a bug double counting the damage on certain kinds of hits.  It also mentions that the angle of the hit now affects the damage: although I am not quite clear on what that means, it could result in a round hitting and doing less average damage that it used to, at certain angles, whatever the plane.

 

Whichever it is you have to look at both when testing.

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A good read thank you for you time and efforts . Hope this gets the attention it deserves .  

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One of the most professional posts which I ever seen on this forum. 

Hats off. 



 

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Very well stated! 

This is one of the reasons I did my post grad studies in statistical analysis - numbers do not lie!

 

People can distort, misrepresent or misinterpret them - but with a well represented argument, it is hard to not agree with the posters findings.

 

I like that he didn't go any further with a "conspiracy theory". He kept this factual!

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Do we have any further updates on this topic? It would be nice if the devs replied to such an on going and old thread. 

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This test and all the accumulated data is fantastic, thank you for your hard work.  I would also like to know if there has been any update or will be one concerning the issue.

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