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3 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

Just a thought.

And a good one, but talking to a WWII pilot several times on our, TS he is happy that folks today are trying to keep the memories of what happened alive and are taking an interest in that generation that fought and died even if that is flying simulated aircraft.

 

17 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

Er......?:scratch_one-s_head:

   

 

 

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26 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

And a good one, but talking to a WWII pilot several times on our, TS he is happy that folks today are trying to keep the memories of what happened alive and are taking an interest in that generation that fought and died even if that is flying simulated aircraft.

 

I hear ya, and I'm sure there are different opinions than the one I cited.

 

I used to talk several times a week with a WWII merchant marine (his boat had been torpedoed) at the coffee shop. Very nice fellow, did work for him sometimes. When I mentioned I flew WWII flight simulators during a conversation, I got an instant and silent reaction. I knew exactly what he was thinking. "You idiot, why aren't you out making love to women and enjoying the careless freedom of your day. Go paint a picture, mow the lawn, have a beer, anything, but don't pretend to be at war killing people, you fool!"

 

Two sides to the coin to be sure.

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@Custard;  ahhh....Count Dunkula.

 

  I just didn't associate the word "comedian" with him but yes;  a case that should never have been brought.   I'm under the impression this will go to appeal?

 

'Fraid it represents one aspect in the short comings of our judicial system;   if you're any good as a lawyer you go into practice.  If you're not you end up in the CPS - which is why we have some of these frankly bizarre prosecution decisions.  Here was another;

 

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Joke_Trial

 

I must confess, I don't see any nefarious liberal conspiracy in this sort of thing.  Merely the usual bungling and incompetence.:mda:

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12 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

I must confess, I don't see any nefarious liberal conspiracy in this sort of thing.  Merely the usual bungling and incompetence.:mda:

I blame Blair. I used to be a card carrying member of the Labour party until he came to power. Alas...no longer.

 

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You'd be hard put to find any serious 'progressive' that considered Tony Blair one of them. 

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17 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

You'd be hard put to find any serious 'progressive' that considered Tony Blair one of them

You may be right but Blairism was left-leaning social liberalism with neo-liberal economics the core feature of which was that welfare and government interference are essential components of British society. The nanny state in all its “glory.” As Blair called it, the third way, and quoting him directly "My kind of socialism is a set of values based around notions of Social Justice.” I still think he is a truly hideous individual.

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Custard the bloke in that last video described David Cameron as a "socialist revolutionary":(

These sort of people seem to fall foul of any sort of credibility test pretty early in their er....broadcasts.... 

 

Do you watch a lot of this sort of stuff?

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Just now, DD_Arthur said:

 

Do you watch a lot of this sort of stuff?

No, but I wanted to find a video about the insane amount of laws Blair passed 26,000 in ten years.

9 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

a "socialist revolutionary":(

That should be Corbyn 😉

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1 minute ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

No, but I wanted to find a video about the insane amount of laws Blair passed 26,000 in ten years.

 

The vast majority of those were about implementing into British law regulations on trade and industry to do with the Maastricht treaty and it's successors - you know;  the one started under those well-known neo-liberal progressives M. Thatcher and  J. Major:mda:

The rest of Europe was doing the same thing at the same time.....

 

16 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

 left-leaning social liberalism with neo-liberal economics the core feature of which was that welfare and government interference are essential components of British society. 

 

You have just described every British government from 1945 until 1979.:salute: 

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1 minute ago, DD_Arthur said:

You have just described every British government from 1945 until 1979.:salute: 

Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

 

7 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

The vast majority of those were about implementing into British law regulations on trade and industry to do with the Maastricht treaty and it's successors

It wasn't the majority we had to worry about though, it was the dramatic change to aspects of our common law. I won't even start with the Maastricht treaty or we'll be here all night 😝

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6 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

I used to talk several times a week with a WWII merchant marine (his boat had been torpedoed) at the coffee shop. Very nice fellow, did work for him sometimes. When I mentioned I flew WWII flight simulators during a conversation, I got an instant and silent reaction. I knew exactly what he was thinking. "You idiot, why aren't you out making love to women and enjoying the careless freedom of your day. Go paint a picture, mow the lawn, have a beer, anything, but don't pretend to be at war killing people, you fool!"

 

Or maybe he got flashbacks? 😛 thathat's the point of freedom, you do what you want and like, many older people find games stupid. But why would you do "anything" if you can do something that gives you joy. It's not about him experiencing war but about different generation, I know veteran of iraq and Afghanistan and he likes games, they even have console in their base (playing war games during war 😛 ). And to be honest I think they should understand it most, it's better if kids pretend to kill people in games than have to do it in ww3.

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13 hours ago, =362nd_FS=Hiromachi said:

You couldnt possibly be more wrong.

 

You are expressing an opinion as am I and nothing more. Nothing absolute. I personally as well as millions of others like me prefer to play as a male character like myself.

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Just watched the video on page one with the guy ranting about Star Trek Discovery not being white male enough for his right wing tastes.  Damn!  I like my Star Trek diversity.  

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10 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

I hear ya, and I'm sure there are different opinions than the one I cited.

 

I used to talk several times a week with a WWII merchant marine (his boat had been torpedoed) at the coffee shop. Very nice fellow, did work for him sometimes. When I mentioned I flew WWII flight simulators during a conversation, I got an instant and silent reaction. I knew exactly what he was thinking. "You idiot, why aren't you out making love to women and enjoying the careless freedom of your day. Go paint a picture, mow the lawn, have a beer, anything, but don't pretend to be at war killing people, you fool!"

 

Two sides to the coin to be sure.

Nah he was probably just wondering what happened to the world. Like how big of losers we are for playing pretend on our computer machines and we should go outside and do real adult things.

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39 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

Just watched the video on page one with the guy ranting about Star Trek Discovery not being white male enough for his right wing tastes.  Damn!  I like my Star Trek diversity.  

Star Trek has always been diverse. Hell, my favorite Star Trek series is DS9 with the kiss ass Benjamin Sisko in command. The problem seems to be that shows today have "progressive" point scoring systems in place and instead of focusing on story or character development they tend to focus on box ticking exercises and signalling how virtuous they are. I watched all of the Discovery episodes and hated the show with a passion,

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The characters were weak and the stories were just plain awful (in my view of course)

 

The Orville

 

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On the other hand was great, it was more "Trek" than Discovery ever will be.  

 

As for Dave Cullen being right wing, the problem we have today is anyone slightly right of Lenin is deemed far right or worse, particularly in certain trashy MSM circles.

 

Edit: battlefield V is still ridiculous 😉

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1 hour ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

As for Dave Cullen being right wing, the problem we have today is anyone slightly right of Lenin is deemed far right or worse, particularly in the trashy MSM.

 

 

I guess the Right’ also feel that they need to be seen with greater diversity too.  Must be awful for them to be simply seen as a uniform type and not represented equally.  

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21 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

I guess the Right’ also feel that they need to be seen with greater diversity too.  Must be awful for them to be simply seen as a uniform type and not represented equally.  

Maybe some on the "right" think that some on the "left" are far too Borg like in what is perceived as wanting to crush the individual or meritocracy and embrace the group or collective?

 

Edit: As for my view (not that it matters) I use to be a Labour supporter but as the left has swung too far to the left for me, I slowly moved to the centre with British liberal tendencies thrown in for good measure. Many on the left would still  call me far right, so go figure?

 

Anyway I'll leave it at that as I'm at fault for drifting off the topic of Battlefield V massively. 

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54 minutes ago, BorysVorobyov said:

Nah he was probably just wondering what happened to the world. Like how big of losers we are for playing pretend on our computer machines and we should go outside and do real adult things.

 

Morning,

 

There was more to it than that. This was a guy who went swimming in the Atlantic after his boat was attacked. And he used to sit in the coffee shop with a man named Ray, who was older than him. Ray and I spoke a few times before he died, but not about the war. But he spoke about it with my friend, of whom I speak here, who told me about Ray going into the woods of France after D-Day with a group of Canadian soldiers at night and by morning almost all were dead. These guys had few if any romantic notions about war. To them it was suffering and death. I have no doubt Ray would have shared my friend's thoughts and wondered why in the name of God anyone would spend their free time emulating what they went through.

 

That people enjoy playing these games is one thing. And it's mostly fine. But for anyone to go out on a limb and speak of honouring the memory of those who served by offering a truer video game representation of the pain and suffering and death they might have gone through is... well, it's open to discussion how much merit there is in that.

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Really? This is the big thing you want to be outraged about? A mainstream Arcade fps that allows players to play as black and or female soliders? Because they have the devious agenda of wanting those groups to be able to play an avatar that looks like them selves? I undetstand if you push for such thinhs in simulators. But a game that doesen't even suport flight sticks? Just don't buy it.

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5 minutes ago, Sarpalaxan said:

Really? This is the big thing you want to be outraged about? A mainstream Arcade fps that allows players to play as black and or female soliders?

 

I think it's less about that and more about people with robot arms in WWII, in a franchise that has been decently authentic up until now.

 

Plus, the way that women and non-whites are included seems to be more of a way for EA to shove how virtuous they are in our faces, so that we all forget about Star Wars: Scamfront II. I doubt they actually care about politics at all, just what they think is most profitable.

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12 minutes ago, Sarpalaxan said:

Really? This is the big thing you want to be outraged about? A mainstream Arcade fps that allows players to play as black and or female soliders? Because they have the devious agenda of wanting those groups to be able to play an avatar that looks like them selves? I undetstand if you push for such thinhs in simulators. But a game that doesen't even suport flight sticks? Just don't buy it.

 

If it was just a game alone... but such nonsense will leak into a culture. Eventually, we will have an "army" of fools which were raised on such crap and they will spread it to other places.

 

No much one can do about it, unfortunately.

3 minutes ago, FFS_Cybermat47 said:

 I doubt they actually care about politics at all, just what they think is most profitable.

 

So they care about politics - there is no other business like politics... To offer a fable preferred by most? - just like politicians do.

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29 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Morning,

 

There was more to it than that. This was a guy who went swimming in the Atlantic after his boat was attacked. And he used to sit in the coffee shop with a man named Ray, who was older than him. Ray and I spoke a few times before he died, but not about the war. But he spoke about it with my friend, of whom I speak here, who told me about Ray going into the woods of France after D-Day with a group of Canadian soldiers at night and by morning almost all were dead. These guys had few if any romantic notions about war. To them it was suffering and death. I have no doubt Ray would have shared my friend's thoughts and wondered why in the name of God anyone would spend their free time emulating what they went through.

 

That people enjoy playing these games is one thing. And it's mostly fine. But for anyone to go out on a limb and speak of honouring the memory of those who served by offering a truer video game representation of the pain and suffering and death they might have gone through is... well, it's open to discussion how much merit there is in that.

No I get it. I spent three years in Iraq and I won't watch movies about it or play games about it. I did my time there and I am done with it and don't care to remember the "war" bit of it. I remember my friends and some good times we could make out there but the rest I would rather not relive. I tried watching some Iraq war movie a few years ago. It made me wonder what the veterans of other wars felt about the classic war movies I grew up on that made me want to be a soldier when I was a kid. If they found it as repulsive as I do now. 

 

I was just making fun of us as gamers and how sometimes we take this way too seriously. We weren't there to experience it and no game, book or movie is ever going to give us that experience. 

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14 minutes ago, BorysVorobyov said:

No I get it. I spent three years in Iraq and I won't watch movies about it or play games about it. I did my time there and I am done with it and don't care to remember the "war" bit of it. I remember my friends and some good times we could make out there but the rest I would rather not relive. I tried watching some Iraq war movie a few years ago. It made me wonder what the veterans of other wars felt about the classic war movies I grew up on that made me want to be a soldier when I was a kid. If they found it as repulsive as I do now. 

 

I was just making fun of us as gamers and how sometimes we take this way too seriously. We weren't there to experience it and no game, book or movie is ever going to give us that experience. 

 

I certainly didn't mean to lecture you. Not my intent at all. It's just that questions/issues like these, once you start to peel away the layers, can become, I find, very interesting and revealing.

 

 

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1 hour ago, CanadaOne said:

That people enjoy playing these games is one thing. And it's mostly fine. But for anyone to go out on a limb and speak of honouring the memory of those who served by offering a truer video game representation of the pain and suffering and death they might have gone through is... well, it's open to discussion how much merit there is in that.

Some will like it some won't.

 

If this would be turn into some pc, feministic and diverse movie i don't think he would be happy. If someone would make a game about events that i was part of and after playing it i would see bunch of made up stuff to some ridiculous level i would not be happy about it. Some just simply don't care. Especially if your side would be shown as bad guys and monsters. There is no one simple answer to this.

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I think one simple answer is to say that a proper view of history should not be garnered, nor expected to be garnered, from a video game.

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10 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

I think one simple answer is to say that a proper view of history should not be garnered, nor expected to be garnered, from a video game.

 

More like there should be a distinction between history/reality and a fantasy be it a game, a book, a movie or anything else. If there is not then um... this fits the very definition of schizophrenia.

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18 minutes ago, Ehret said:

 

More like there should be a distinction between history/reality and a fantasy be it a game, a book, a movie or anything else. If there is not then um... this fits the very definition of schizophrenia.

 

I think the distinction is made by any healthy mind. But even a healthy mind can be distracted by the colourfulness of the information it receives and lose a sense of discrimination as to the true quality of that information.

 

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4 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

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anyone slightly right of Lenin is deemed far right or worse, particularly in certain trashy MSM circles.

 

 

It's like you drank the koolaid with Vladi, GRU, the FSB and 45 himself.

 

Once imbibed, it's hard to rinse rancid piss out of your mouth.

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53 minutes ago, Space_Ghost said:

It's like you drank the koolaid with Vladi, GRU, the FSB and 45 himself.

It's more likely that it was with reverend Jim or one of those bots we constantly hear about.

 

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Battlefield and Reality don´t go hand in hand. I guess it´ll be as WW2 as Battlefield 1 was WW1. Mainstream shooter for maximum revenue. I wonder if they try again to build in such "features" as they tried with their StarWars games?

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After Battlefield 1942 it all rapidly went downhill... I simply think the whole 'run and gun' and 'die, respawn, rinse and repeat' game culture is something that is now so entrenched in our gaming culture that we will never be able to get rid of it.

Couple that with the developers culture of 'make as much money as we can as quick as we can', and then move on to yet another sequel of the same total bollox as those simpletons out there keep buying it is here to stay as well... 

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Did anyone mention the WW1 Battlefield as realistic? or was it a comment in one of the videos in this tread? 

Because this trailer and the one for WW1 is quite similar in my mind, in fact I thought it was a joke. So I am not really surprised 

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I don't think most people like slow, tactical, realistic video games. There is a fanbase for arma and the forgotten hope 2 ww2 mod for bf2 did pretty well, trying within the confines of bf2s game dynamics to depict a more realistic version of ww2.

 

Bf1942 wasn't exactly realistic even though it set in some more realistic locations.

 

If you wanted a realistic shooter you went for operation flashpoint. A slower, more thoughtful game requiring tactics and time. Where different body parts were affected by damage.

 

It's been pretty obvious the way battlefield has been going. The original call of duties started off more realistic and slowly went away.

 

The problem is that battlefield needs to die because each release they need to keep outdoing themselves and coming up with something new without constant recycling the same content and that's not an easy thing. But they'll keep churning out more and more games till they drain the last blood from the name and people finally stop buying it.

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44 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

Did anyone mention the WW1 Battlefield as realistic? or was it a comment in one of the videos in this tread? 

Because this trailer and the one for WW1 is quite similar in my mind, in fact I thought it was a joke. So I am not really surprised 

 

I don't think there are women in that one for some guys to get upset about? ;)

 

The game doesn't look like my kind of fun either, Custard; but trying to justify your anger with "SJW/Progressive/Left/Liberal culture," by throwing around "historical accuracy" about this game and using that as your platform, is just as ridiculous as its content.  Consider it something like Wolfenstein - it's the realm of the ridiculous (ie. just a video game). 

 

 

And for fun here's the Wiki article on Virginia Hall, and female spy with a wooden leg during WW2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Hall

 

 

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On 6/3/2018 at 6:55 AM, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

 We have blue face painted “Soldiers” with teddy bears,

 

 

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History has been dropped..

 

And since when Battlefield series has some history compromise? It's mean to be 'fun" and sell thousand of thousand copies. 

 

And be prepared to see this kind of sight in 90%+ of Bf V weapons.🤪

 

 

 


 

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when i play a game i pick a female, i rather to spend hours looking to a guy full of muscles

 

i think with future versions of OR many macho men will fall in the trap of a nerd pretending to be a hot female

 

females are overrated by men, its an evolution trap but once you past the reproduction age you see things clearer

 

that or women have slowly been geting uglier and uglier which is a posibility for money now being the leit motiv of evolution

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2 minutes ago, raaaid said:

women have slowly been geting uglier and uglier

 

Refined carbohydrates were a mistake. 

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This thread is a little messy. I think we need a cleanup on il-2. :lol:9D3E95E7-9781-449E-BCFF-A8CA4BFECC09.jpeg.0121019e19cd82608d2290cd06c4cc34.jpeg 

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