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Copy that. Hope this plan makes PTO possible later on!

 

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Thanks for the clarification.

 

I was beginning to look forward to the Pacific, but the ambitious plan you just dropped on us meant that I had to turn my mind around completely. So much else to get excited about.

 

Of course you want to do the Pacific right, no half measures here. But I won’t fault the people who were truly excited for Wildcats and Zeros to shed a tear and maybe curse a bit under their breath.

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Hi Jason,

 

I had recently started to speculate that developing the Pacific and gaining the necessary research and materials to make it a reality would be a tough thing to do. I think you made a difficult call but the right one. The announcements today suggest to me very strongly that you've been listening and reading our comments on the future of the series closely and come up with some compelling alternatives.

 

I still look forward to the day that we can participate in the huge carrier battles of Midway!

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Thanks for the explanation, Jason. It makes a great deal of sense, and I think shows a commitment to do things right, rather than rush them. Research for Japanese aircraft in particular was always going to be difficult, and I can fully understand the desire to leave the Pacific theatre, with all the complexities of carrier operations etc, until such time as you are better equipped to do them justice. Something to look forward to later, and meanwhile we'll have so much else to occupy us...

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I think it's a good decision if you don't think you could've created PTO to the same level of quality as the team and the community want the game to be now. I'm looking forward to how this fantastic game series will develop from here on out!

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Thanks for the explanation. I'm disappointed, but I knew there would be sound reasons behind the decision.

 

Look forward to eventually getting the aircraft carriers.

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In the long run I think it will prove to be the right decision. There is no reason you should halfa__ the PTO at this moment.

 

I didn`t look forward to the PTO but it doesn`t take a genius to know that the new development plan is stretching PTO people`s patience. Many ppl bought BoK thinking PTO will be next and I can see you guys are aware of that. It was undoubtedly a tough choice to make although I`m 100% sure I`d make the same.

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Thank you for taking the time to explain.
I am not disappointed with the announcement.
On the contrary, Badenplate is really a dream for me and the avoins exactly match my expectations.
Even if we have to wait for the PTO.
I prefer to wait in order to have a great product on the pacific.

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My plan is to work on PTO materials while we build all this other new stuff so we can be better prepared next attempt. I underestimated what would be needed and how difficult it would be even for our great team, so that was my fault.

 

Jason

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 to postpone, NOT CANCEL our plans to go to the Pacific theater.

 

 

 

Thats just what I needed to hear! Keep up the good work, hope the next installment will be very successful! :salute:

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Thanks for this clear and transparent communication Jason, we will support your dream :salute: . I know the time and effort it takes to develop top notch simulations so I am not fully surprised. As long as, nice and new things come along the way, we can wait as much as needed.

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I can only say that I am amazed at what you guys are producing.

All these improvements, the new planes, the theatres and last but not least the great communication!

 

Keep it up! 

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Jason, from a business standpoint, would you be against simply making the Zero and releasing it as a standalone aircraft?  I understand that it might take some of the wind out of the sails of a Midway release, but the benefits...  Remember, "Aces Expansion Pack" included the zero for IL2FB and if you're progressing in the spirit of that title, then perhaps it could be considered?  The only reason I'm suggesting it is that we're going to have the P40, A20... the Zero at least gives us some semblance of a pacific scenario while we die hard fans wait for the turn of the decade?

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Thanks for explaining Jason.  I was looking forward to the Pacific just as much as you were.  Very much counting the days in fact.

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Jason, from a business standpoint, would you be against simply making the Zero and releasing it as a standalone aircraft?  I understand that it might take some of the wind out of the sails of a Midway release, but the benefits...  Remember, "Aces Expansion Pack" included the zero for IL2FB and if you're progressing in the spirit of that title, then perhaps it could be considered?  The only reason I'm suggesting it is that we're going to have the P40, A20... the Zero at least gives us some semblance of a pacific scenario while we die hard fans wait for the turn of the decade?

 

Nice idea.  WIth a Zeke people can fight P40s over the Kuban map and pretend they are over New Guinea.  Unfortunately,  getting enough info to build the Zeke accurately is probably one of the things Jason is struggling with.

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Same as others, that's all I needed to hear - I always thought that Battle of Midway was going to take some time and not come next year anyway - I'm happy to wait as long as needed knowing that it's still in progress. Meanwhile I'll happily pre order the other stuff - Flying Circus is an awesome and really unexpected news. VR WWI flying is going to be incredible.

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I know there will be many that will be very disappointed with the delay of the PTO... but I'm sure the wait will be worth it.

For their sake's I'm glad you intend to get back to it as soon as you have the chance to do it justice!

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Im not a fan of the PTO, but after the new excellent announcement I will buy PTO when it comes.

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Like many others, I am disappointed for no Wildcat action, but the decision to not make PTO yet is completely reasonable and makes 100 % sense.

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What Trooper said. Meanwhile, the announced steps toward the PTO are awesome, more than excited and content. 

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As a part time researcher I dont buy this argument. If for over a year since BoK and future plans announcement it was not possible to gather satisfactory data what should make me assured that for the next two to three years this actually will be accomplished. Presented today aircraft and tanks require by any means huge number of resources and data, which DCS and other products on the market have proven. So how at the same time you want to make me believe that you can research what is needed for Pacific and focus on delivering a new "promise" ?

There are number of people who could have helped with materials and research. A lot of such people were around Pacific Fighters, Silent Hunter series or even others. There are also numbers of proffesional historians and researchers who focused on those topics. Was any of them contacted ?

 

The delay of further two to three years means that for people like me it will be again a choice to buy something that doesnt particularly interest us (and BoK was already such decision) only to wait. I wont pretend I'm happy with this decision, nor that upcoming expansions excite me. I wanted to provide whatever assistance may be needed with Pacific but instead have to wait. Again.

 

Side quuestion: Does the Tank expansion mean there is a possibility of adding Japanese and American tanks ?

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Jason,

 

Understandable.

 

That said, at the announcement of BOK, it was said that BOK was an immediate stepstone to Pacific. This statement likely led to many pacific guys to pre order BOK.

 

Does this mean that Pacific guys just funded ANOTHER eu theatre?

Will we need to fund this too? What gives post BOP will be pacific?

 

Why not afrika? Jumping from 1945 plane set to 1942 plane set feels risky.

Fast and powerful prop to early war plane set? This is BOS and BOM revisited.

 

If this change leads to pacific guys eventual exit and BOP sales is not as great as BOK, what happens?

 

Should Pacific guys continue to fund BOP?

 

Pls assure me.

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My plan is to work on PTO materials while we build all this other new stuff so we can be better prepared next attempt. I underestimated what would be needed and how difficult it would be even for our great team, so that was my fault. Jason

 

I think people will understand that it is not easy to implement a product with as much new functionality as the Pacific would bring.
I think a lot of people think the same and are there to support you. Even if we have to wait again.
Many thanks again to you and the whole team for what you do. :salute: 

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Jason,

 

Understandable.

 

That said, at the announcement of BOK, it was said that BOK was an immediate stepstone to Pacific. This statement likely led to many pacific guys to pre order BOK.

 

Does this mean that Pacific guys just funded ANOTHER eu theatre?

Will we need to fund this too? What gives post BOP will be pacific?

 

Why not afrika? Jumping from 1945 plane set to 1942 plane set feels risky.

Fast and powerful prop to early war plane set? This is BOS and BOM revisited.

 

If this change leads to pacific guys eventual exit and BOP sales is not as great as BOK, what happens?

 

Should Pacific guys continue to fund BOP?

 

Pls assure me.

 

I told everyone that PTO was what we wanted to do, but was not guaranteed. I also spoke about the difficulties in trying to make it in a previous Dev. Diary.

 

"Our long-term vision includes the following battles, but not necessarily in this order and final selection is not concrete."

 

If you want us to eventually get there your support is welcome, but its up to you. Regardless, it is not going to be easy even if I had a mountain of money to spend. I cannot make any guarantees.

 

I know some users are disappointed, but there are also others that are relieved. All I ask is that you please don't doubt my drive to do the Pacific It is my white whale. 

 

Jason

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Thanks for explaining the situation Jason.

 

Thank you for your communication with the community.  I think you and the team have the ability to take us all with you on this.  

 

You have restored my faith in this genre.

 

Happy landings and the best of luck for the future.

 

Happy landings,

 

56RAF_Talisman

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The delay of further two to three years means that for people like me it will be again a choice to buy something that doesnt particularly interest us (and BoK was already such decision) only to wait. I wont pretend I'm happy with this decision, nor that upcoming expansions excite me. I wanted to provide whatever assistance may be needed with Pacific but instead have to wait. Again.

 

Large ship to ship combat and physics technology, sea and wave technology, carriers landings with pitching deck, submarine variables, fleet escorts etc. I'm sure the task to model even some for those things is huge.When you add aircraft modelling  on top of that its a massive project. As already stated, they wish to do the Pacific Justice. Hopefully BOB will help the developers to realise the best possible PTO we have ever seen.

 

I'm very much looking forward to seeing it.

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A crocodile tears.

 

 

 

Large ship to ship combat and physics technology, sea and wave technology, carriers landings with pitching deck, submarine variables, fleet escorts etc. I'm sure the task to model even some for those things is huge.When you add aircraft modelling on top of that its a massive project. As already stated, they wish to do the Pacific Justice. Hopefully BOB will help the developers to realise the best possible PTO we have ever seen.

Well, thats what Kuban was supposed to bring ? Kuban was partially meant to be a test bench while all this technology is being built. Ships, weaves, submarines ... So here we are a year later with pretty much the same decision to make. Get into BoB to facilitate future Pacific development.

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I think the decision is perfectly understandable in the business point of view. I'm not a biggest Pacific fan but I would have welcomed it. And I will when it comes.

 

But it would have been a mistake do it with lower quality, it would have ended in a disaster.

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