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In the 109E that is not the tail wheel lock lever. Can't check what it was atm because I'm not near my references.

In later 109's that is the place for the lock lever.

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I just had a quick look at the original manual again. It seems that this was the "Tankdruckschaltung", a mechanism that made sure that there is no air in the fuel-tank.

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I just had a quick look at the original manual again. It seems that this was the "Tankdruckschaltung", a mechanism that made sure that there is no air in the fuel-tank.

Now we all know then the COD is modeled correctly then...Good work  :salute:

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Now we all know then the COD is modeled correctly then...Good work  :salute:

 

I never said anything about COD being modeled wrong.

 

I said that there was a bug and there isn't - I stand corrected.

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I never said anything about COD being modeled wrong.

 

I said that there was a bug and there isn't - I stand corrected.

wasn't referring to you :)

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Well, here I am, hat in hand and nervously looking around for information?

I could never get Cliffs of Dover to work well in FPS, so I just gave up on it.

Seems, I was wrong.  I just recently rebuilt/upgraded my system and found out,

that my old AMD 8350, which ran Cliffs at 30FPS to 13FPS , may have been the culprit?

 

Now using an overclocked I7 4790K, I downloaded the game again today and nearly fell out of my chair....

I was using the same GFX card as with the 8350, a GTX 770 w/4gig vram.....I saw 100+ FPS and a low in the high 60's.

Those numbers compiled from the "Black Death" clip.  

 

Is there a 'one stop spot' where I can go update Cliffs?  What do I need to have to be current and online playable in terms of mods or updates?    Who ever can give to me a 'steer' to that location will have my Thanks.

Thank You All

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Thanks folks...I'll bookmark it and read it carefully.  

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The latest breaking news is that Nvidia have released a new driver 350.12 (previous beta 350.05 also had same results) that has cured the stutters (micro and longer) for online players.

 

The Nvidia hotfix v350.05 was released to fix an issue in Battlefield Hardline and some.of the Cliffs of Dover players installed it. During their next online session they reported that they had no stutters at all. News spread and other players tried the v350.05 driver and reported exactly the same findings. Stutter-free online play.

 

Nvidia ha e since released and official v350.12 driver that is producing exactly the same results. So if you haven't installed the latest Nvidia driver go out and get it. The difference is night and day apparently :)

 

It's not often we get a chance to say thanks to Electronic Arts, but this is one occasion as a hotfix for Battlefield Hardline has fixed Cliffs of Dover's micro stutters.

 

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16831&highlight=stutters

 

Cheers,.MP

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It's not often we get a chance to say thanks to Electronic Arts, but this is one occasion as a hotfix for Battlefield Hardline has fixed Cliffs of Dover's micro stutters.

 

 

:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl: LOL

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It's not often we get a chance to say thanks to Electronic Arts, but this is one occasion as a hotfix for Battlefield Hardline has fixed Cliffs of Dover's micro stutters.

 

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16831&highlight=stutters

 

Cheers,.MP

 

it's kinda hard to say thanks when you're over the pommel horse with red ball gag in mouth... :o:

 

Well, here I am, hat in hand and nervously looking around for information?

I could never get Cliffs of Dover to work well in FPS, so I just gave up on it.

Seems, I was wrong.  I just recently rebuilt/upgraded my system and found out,

that my old AMD 8350, which ran Cliffs at 30FPS to 13FPS , may have been the culprit?

 

Now using an overclocked I7 4790K, I downloaded the game again today and nearly fell out of my chair....

I was using the same GFX card as with the 8350, a GTX 770 w/4gig vram.....I saw 100+ FPS and a low in the high 60's.

Those numbers compiled from the "Black Death" clip.  

 

Is there a 'one stop spot' where I can go update Cliffs?  What do I need to have to be current and online playable in terms of mods or updates?    Who ever can give to me a 'steer' to that location will have my Thanks.

Thank You All

 

sorry mate, I have been a life long AMD builder till the FX line came out :( the performance gain you are seeing is a real jump, you skipped sandy and went right for haswell :) until AMD comes out with their new architecture in 2016 intel will give the best performance in software that is very much Dependant on clock and IPC. congrats on the new CPU and 100FPS.

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The interview with Team Fusion that appeared in PC Powerplay Australia is now available to read for free online.

There were more pictures in the magazine but here's the article that was published. Thanks to Bennett for the interview and publicity, cheers, MP

http://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/feature/il2-cliffs-of-dover-a-diamond-in-the-rough,402432

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Overall a nice article. I'm not sure it was necessary to take a sideswipe at BoS though.

 

"These beautiful warbirds inhabit the most eye-wateringly pleasing environment ever made for a simulator, with professional efforts like IL2: Battle of Stalingrad failing to match its graphical prowess"

 

If you have confidence in a product there isn't a need to resort to snipe at another. Let your product stand or fall on its own merits not the perceived failings of another, especially on their forum.

 

Team Fusion deserve all the credit they can get for doing this work, IMHO the sniping at 777 belittles that.

 

P.S. enjoying CLoD very much now, thank you!

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Overall a nice article. I'm not sure it was necessary to take a sideswipe at BoS though.

TF did not write the article, neither did we invite the writer to make comparisons with BoS.

 

The writer was an independent reviewer who approached us with questions.

 

At no time did he mention any comparisons with BoS.

 

We have no interest in creating a controversy or competing with anyone. 

 

We are just trying to make CoD as good as it can be.

 

By the way, the writer also got his info wrong... he blamed Oleg for the failure of the original release, but Oleg was no longer a member of the development team by then, he had resigned to move onto other work.  By no means can he be considered responsible for the game's initial failure.

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While I agree that Mr Maddox was not responsible for the early release and the issues that that incurred, I do feel that the fact that his project/dream could not be completed on time and within budget is the single reason for the failure of CLoD as a commercial venture, and that responsibility does lie with someone, the fact that he resigned and left the project at a late stage does not totally excuse  him, anyway that is old history now

 

Cheers Dakpilot

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I didnt say TF wrote the article.

 

Im suggesting that some of the article came across a bit, well, confrontational?....surely you guys got to see a version before release?. The guy selected 777 for criticism on two occasions in the article. Why not level some at other developers aswell, DCS for example. It seemed that there was a deliberate attempt to compare with one group only, not the genre as a whole. 

 

To me, positive PR might have been more effective than Negative PR given that many of the target audience, including me i hope, use many software titles at a time. Anyhoo, only my opinion as stated above.

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Very nice article, great to see TF get the recognition they so deserve!

 

Really looking forward to TF5!

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PR?? What does that article have to do with PR Jedders?

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Just a great story. So glad I hung in there all those years. Cheers to all of us IL-2 folks :drinks:  :bye:

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CLOD and Bos aren't properly competing one each other, even if they are both WWII simulators. We must always think that they are both 1c products (even if greatest outcome for 1c are going to come from BOS success, considered the price).

We shouldn't see any comparison between them as an attempt to damage one or the other.

In my humble opinion that article hasn't gone beyond useful freedom of opinions and speech.

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I didnt say TF wrote the article.

 

Im suggesting that some of the article came across a bit, well, confrontational?....surely you guys got to see a version before release?. The guy selected 777 for criticism on two occasions in the article. Why not level some at other developers aswell, DCS for example. It seemed that there was a deliberate attempt to compare with one group only, not the genre as a whole. 

 

To me, positive PR might have been more effective than Negative PR given that many of the target audience, including me i hope, use many software titles at a time. Anyhoo, only my opinion as stated above.

 

soory mate but your bias is showing, if the author had wanted to be confrontational as you put it he would have brought up the unlocks,video setting's,48MP, delayed release of FMB/DServer...etc

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What do you mean "my bias"?....

 

I think you need to  read again what I have said. If anything I am spending more time in CloD over the last weeks than BoS. I also make reference to how well TF have done. You need to read the content of a persons post rather than making a judgement based on who wrote it.

 

This "us and them" attitude that some have is what keeps people away from this genre. Now that is bad PR!

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I didnt say TF wrote the article.

 

Im suggesting that some of the article came across a bit, well, confrontational?....surely you guys got to see a version before release?

 

Hi Jedders. Not sure if you have worked in the publishing business (Newspaper/Magazine) but generally you'll get sent a preview version of the finished article. I think in very rare exceptions like Beyonce there may be a possibility of seeing a preview article and changing it to suit your agenda, but this is not generally the case.

 

The writer did send me a copy of the finished article that was ready to go to press so I could see what would be in print.

 

Let's not forget, this is a magazine writer with his own opinion and his own point of view. There is no agenda as can be seen from the positive review he gave to BoS. But hang on, he gave a positive review to BoS using his own opinion and his own point of view and yet there was no decrying that fact?

 

The main point is, an article talking about Team Fusion is in a magazine and we have let the writer form his own opinions without getting involved other than to answer the questions posed. There is nowhere it says TF said BoS was bad, ugly, lacking.....nowhere. The writer has his own opinion as do you all who write here, the fact that it isn't exactly as some would like it written isn't down to TF, so as the saying goes "don't shoot the messenger".

 

Also I should add we didn't influence the article or put a positive bias on it, the questions were answered and we don't need to get involved to let others decide on whether our work is good enough for the community to use, we let the community decide that for themselves.

 

Cheers, MP

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What does an article advertising a product have to do with Public Relations?....ermm.....

I am sorry mate but that magasine is independant, as far as I know so is the autor. He wrote what he want with no agenda nor obligation towards BOS or Cliffs. That's not PR works

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Also I should add we didn't influence the article or put a positive bias on it, the questions were answered and we don't need to get involved to let others decide on whether our work is good enough for the community to use, we let the community decide that for themselves.

 

Cheers, MP

 

Thanks for the reply, MP. The positive response the article gives is clearly deserved as Ive stated before as have many others. Im just not sure the RoF references nor the 777`s help to garner support.

 

Tell everyone how good it is now. Leave the other stuff to history. In my opinion it devalues what has been achieved.

 

I just feel the article would have read better without the negativity.

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Well personally I lost interest in CLOD and have even uninstalled it, there's too much flying on rails feeling for my liking and by the time TF made it playable my desire for an IL2 BOB sim had gone off the boil which is a major shame since I spent most of IL2 hopig for the BOB and now I'm quite happy fighting Yaks again over the snow like in 2001. TF did a great job though, at least people got to fly what they paid for.

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 I lost interest in CLoD for 2 reasons
1) Purchased the DVD  and  that required steam to start the installation of the game., Steam always was freezing to my PC no matter all the tips and tricks on the internet, that tried to fix it so i did not install it.

2) All this fuzz that the game  was buggy and so on.

 After [Edited]  to be able to install it and see ( though I still have the  boxed paid version of it)
I did not find any bugs in the game. Some if the TF patches would not install so I left it there. Perhaps I will try it another time, if that steam thing  start to work, but I never had the impression that the game needed any patches to play and never understood why all this frenzy in moding and patching something that already worked.

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Well I am sure you did the right thing , uninstalling COD. You should not have it installed if you do not fly it. But what relevance does that information to do with this tread. 

It is intact quite possible to enjoy both games, currently COD beats the living daylight out of BOS in terms of organized squad flying. There is nothing wrong with BOS in that regard, it just is not yet happening, it is a community thing.

I am quite pleased for good review on any WW2 combat sim. We need more people to the genre, and I see no reason for anyone to be upset for some well deserved kudos to TF. And I think the people who does got a issue with their own agenda.

Good work TF, and good luck with TF 5,0 many are eager to test that one

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I never had the impression that the game needed any patches to play and never understood why all this frenzy in moding and patching something that already worked.

 

Actually the game had quite a number of problems, among them...

 

- LoD models would disappear at close ranges

- Many graphics glitches, like objectives showing through clouds

- Performance of the aircraft way off historical, overheating mismodeled, aircraft unable to climb to altitude, etc. etc.

 

All of these and many others fixed by TF.

 

If you can get round your dislike of Steam, you might consider re-installing and trying it with the TF patches, they are not hard to install if you follow the instructions on the ATAG forums, see link here:

 

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5058&p=52711

 

You might be pleasantly surprised to find you get your money's worth.  :cool:

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Not knocking what TF have done and I have enjoyed playing Clod but I just find the aircraft too easy to fly and particularly far too easy to land. As much as the FM's have been knocked in BoS I think the "sensation" of flight has been nailed so much better than 95% of other sims.  

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Agree to disagree then, I find the CoD FMS much more immersive than bos.

Add to that the FM debates revolve around spits being to slow/fast by 10kph etc etc...not about yaks being over 40 kph to fast! TF got their stuff together and nailed it, BoS not so much.

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Agree to disagree then, I find the CoD FMS much more immersive than bos.

Add to that the FM debates revolve around spits being to slow/fast by 10kph etc etc...not about yaks being over 40 kph to fast! TF got their stuff together and nailed it, BoS not so much.

That's the great thing about opinions and forums, we can indeed agree to disagree. Landing in my view is far too easy on Clod. I also think that the flight envelopes can be pushed just too far, but hey that's just my view, I respect yours but don't agree with it. 

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