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I'm half expecting the announcement of a Pacific theatre expansion. Something like Coral Sea/Midway. The developers might well favour it because the 10-aircraft arrangement would deliver a near complete planeset and let them move on to something else again the following year.

 

May God hear you, Feathered_IV!

 

IMHO the best move would be a completely new theater (PTO, MTO...) in order to attract new customers, and release small addons for the Ost Front like Odessa map, Tante Ju and/or variants of existing aircraft for the russian market.

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May God hear you, Feathered_IV!

 

IMHO the best move would be a completely new theater (PTO, MTO...) in order to attract new customers, and release small addons for the Ost Front like Odessa map, Tante Ju and/or variants of existing aircraft for the russian market.

Agree. With too many eastern front maps/planes its going to get boring fast.

 

Since there are 2 already in the works, shifting to a different theatre would be a very good move. You can go back later to finish the planeset for '45 after we have seen the war in other places.

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I would say North Africa just to test also the carrier tecnology for Midway, and i would expect also a Martlet as premium aircraft.

So MED first, and PACIFIC later.

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It may even be interesting to give us a mostly Italian plane set for the start of the Africa/Med campaign at first and then expand it later on with German aircraft. In that way it could portray the shift in composition of the Axis powers air forces during the period in question.

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The MTO as a standalone theatre feels unrealistic through the most of it, since all major Axis aircraft are already in game safe for the very early Italian types. Considering they are adding Odessa and what appears to be some of the Black Sea, it will very likely be a 1943 Soviet-Axis expansion with some American/British aircraft included. Some models that featured in 1943 like the A-20, Yak-1b and P-39N fought until the end of the war and stayed in service beyond that, so they would work for a 1943 scenario and also fit an Odessa 1944 map.

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It would be the first official release for an MTO sim after the cancelled Sierra "Desert Fighters".

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The MTO as a standalone theatre feels unrealistic through the most of it, since all major Axis aircraft are already in game safe for the very early Italian types. Considering they are adding Odessa and what appears to be some of the Black Sea, it will very likely be a 1943 Soviet-Axis expansion with some American/British aircraft included. Some models that featured in 1943 like the A-20, Yak-1b and P-39N fought until the end of the war and stayed in service beyond that, so they would work for a 1943 scenario and also fit an Odessa 1944 map.

 

You are right but the 1C-777 release format could also change somentimes, as for the price.

 

What you say is absolutely right but it can't be the reason to cut off a MED scenary.

 

Time for Spitfire is come as for the Royal Air Force.

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I'm just looking at the planes that were used during the Korean War as well as when it started both sides used some piston engine models. How about an IL-10, La-9 and La-11 fighter set for the north and maybe a Supermarine Seafire, P-51 and F4U Corsair fighter set for the south? Actually I would prefer a Sea Fury in place of one of the US planes, but I'm sure to be out-voted on that score....

 

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/korean-war-aircraft.asp

 

 

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I mean this for much later on of course

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I am almost sure I have seen Jason statement they will not do BoB.

 

Very possibly, but he probably also said that they would not make a flyable Ju-52  ;)

 

Options can change over time, but I admit that I'm not going to hold my breath waiting  :biggrin:

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If they add a P-39 and an A-20, all they need for starters is a Spitfire premium aircraft, British tanks and a map for N. Africa 1943. Most of the Axis aircraft to date were there, and it would add a lot of fun and variety for comparatively little work. :)

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Oh,yet another recycled topic. Bring more :D

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Very possibly, but he probably also said that they would not make a flyable Ju-52  ;)

 

Options can change over time, but I admit that I'm not going to hold my breath waiting  :biggrin:

 

That's true, but you know.... that CloD... ;)

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I would say North Africa just to test also the carrier tecnology for Midway, and i would expect also a Martlet as premium aircraft.

So MED first, and PACIFIC later.

 

 

In any case, And I support both of these, I think the most important thing of all is that they maintain some "continuity of content".  That is to say that whatever new theater we go to they are related in both time & space, and aircraft to some extent.  There needs to be some measure of content crossover where new planes can be used on old maps and old planes (BoM/BoS) are transferable to the new Maps.

 

As much as I would love to see a Pacific Theater, I don't think these Devs want to tackle Carrier Ops. Call it a hunch.  As sad and closed minded as that opinion might be, its probably the case.  Best we could hope for is maybe a small Escort Carrier in a Med/NAfr. expansion.  Even that is a stretch in my opinion.  I hope I'm wrong.

 

At the end of the day the biggest disappointment will be yet another slog through the great patriotic War.  As much as I've grown to appreciate and love the OstFront it wears on me now...I haven't played in months...My sincere hope is that continued development of the East is done as it seems to be done now with the Ju-52 and Yak-1b...in an Ala Carte fashion that gives those who want more Eastern Front content just that, but not in a full release that monopolizes a full development cycle but gets knicks and knacks added as they are finished, (maps, vehicles, new Planes etc.)

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We just had BoB before BoS.

 

Why not the USAAF in the Mediterranean Theater? While the Soviets were fighting at Stalingrad, the USAAF were not just standing by.. Here's the 9th af..

 

began operations on 12 Nov 1942, participating in the Allied drive across Egypt and Libya, the campaign in Tunisia, and the invasions of Sicily and Italy.

 

They flew the P-38's, P-51's, A-36's, P-47's, and even Spitfires.

 

... And we already have most of the Axis planes we'd need.

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BoM is a DLC. The premium aircraft (and the upcoming Ju52 and Yak-1) are also DLCs now. BoS remains the core sim. If anything, it seems the devs are consolidating around the Eastern Front.

 

I anticipate the Kursk, Leningrad, Narva, Kharkov or any other massive Eastern Front battleground way ahead of anything in the Pacific, Western Europe or Afrika.

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I'm half expecting the announcement of a Pacific theatre expansion. Something like Coral Sea/Midway. The developers might well favour it because the 10-aircraft arrangement would deliver a near complete planeset and let them move on to something else again the following year.

 

As a Pacific Theater nut, and as someone who can't wait to fly the Zeke again, I wouldn't want to see that.

Stick to it for a few cycles, flesh it out and do it right or just stay away from it.

 

I'd rather see Kuban than a half baked 'one and done' Pacific effort.

 

What I really want to see is Guadalcanal/Slot/Henderson

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As a Pacific Theater nut, and as someone who can't wait to fly the Zeke again, I wouldn't want to see that.

Stick to it for a few cycles, flesh it out and do it right or just stay away from it.

 

I'd rather see Kuban than a half baked 'one and done' Pacific effort.

 

What I really want to see is Guadalcanal/Slot/Henderson

 

This makes the most sense as a main effort in the Development of a Pacific Theater.  Coral Sea would be great as Papua New Guinea saw a lot of action from 1942 to late 1943, but the planeset would be more even and the war more inquestion if you centered on Guadalcanal.  A full 2 years of the Air War focused on the island and then an offensive FROM the island working toward Rabaul.

 

I could see a Midway Map thrown in as a bonus map as that was a battle that lasted only a couple of days if you count the preliminaries and then the actual fight.

 

Coral Sea would be great too as you could start with the early days leading up to Operation MO and include the Tainan Air Group and their assault on PM against the Aussie 75 Squadron and then the American 35th and 36th Pursuit Squadrons.

 

So A6M2, G4M2, A-24 Banshee, Aussie Kittyhawks, P-39s, PBYs, B-26 Marauder  

 

I would throw in B5N2 Kate, D3A Val, F4F, and TBD-1 for a full planeset!

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Oh,yet another recycled topic. Bring more :D

 

Virtually every lucrative topic available has been beaten to death. Viciously.

 

The beatings will continue until morale improves. 

 

Just you wait... as soon as the next expansion is announced there will be A) Rejoicing B) Gnashing of teeth. I predict A will be more silent than B. The actual theater chosen won't matter...  Gnashing always wins!

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This makes the most sense as a main effort in the Development of a Pacific Theater.  Coral Sea would be great as Papua New Guinea saw a lot of action from 1942 to late 1943, but the planeset would be more even and the war more inquestion if you centered on Guadalcanal.  A full 2 years of the Air War focused on the island and then an offensive FROM the island working toward Rabaul.

 

I could see a Midway Map thrown in as a bonus map as that was a battle that lasted only a couple of days if you count the preliminaries and then the actual fight.

 

Coral Sea would be great too as you could start with the early days leading up to Operation MO and include the Tainan Air Group and their assault on PM against the Aussie 75 Squadron and then the American 35th and 36th Pursuit Squadrons.

 

So A6M2, G4M2, A-24 Banshee, Aussie Kittyhawks, P-39s, PBYs, B-26 Marauder  

 

I would throw in B5N2 Kate, D3A Val, F4F, and TBD-1 for a full planeset!

 

Yes...yes...yes...you get it.

After the battle of Guadalcanal proper (daily air battles over Henderson, Zekes, Wildcats, Bettys) then we move the fighting up the slot and bring in Corsairs and P38's etc.

(Blacksheep campaign anyone?)

Even in the first phase during the fighting for control of Guadalcanal, you have float plane ops too, not just the PBY but plenty on the Japanese side too, including the A6m2-N but also my love of loves...the Emily.

 

Then adding a Coral Sea and Midway/Wake map is simple... yes - you get it.

 

Carrier ops can come later after we've thrown money at them for the Slot map.

 

 

Hiromachi - last weekend I got to watch an actual Oscar fly, along with a Wildcat, and 2 of the worlds 5 flying Hellcats, along with several Zekes.

This was near Seattle - Paul Allen's collection. The Oscar flew with the F4F, the Hellcats flew with the Zekes - something to behold.

I can watch those Zekes and Oscar fly all day.

 

This weekend I might go watch them fly their IL2 M3.

http://www.flyingheritage.com/

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We just had BoB before BoS.

 

Why not the USAAF in the Mediterranean Theater? While the Soviets were fighting at Stalingrad, the USAAF were not just standing by.. Here's the 9th af..

began operations on 12 Nov 1942, participating in the Allied drive across Egypt and Libya, the campaign in Tunisia, and the invasions of Sicily and Italy.

 

They flew the P-38's, P-51's, A-36's, P-47's, and even Spitfires.

 

... And we already have most of the Axis planes we'd need.

 

You got me at P-47.YES PLEASE!!

 

BoM is a DLC. The premium aircraft (and the upcoming Ju52 and Yak-1) are also DLCs now. BoS remains the core sim. If anything, it seems the devs are consolidating around the Eastern Front.

 

I anticipate the Kursk, Leningrad, Narva, Kharkov or any other massive Eastern Front battleground way ahead of anything in the Pacific, Western Europe or Afrika.

 

 

The DLC format is just a workaround to keep the games together in Steam. They ARE separate games but they were not ready to make it work like that on Steam while keeping them together.

 

I know they are working on a way to change that (see Jason's comments) but it needs more time.

 

Ideally they move to a DCS like model,  but instead of individual planes, the modules are BOS,BOM BOX etc.

 

Perhaps have a minimal free game such as Lapino + Lagg3.

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I agree, add other theatres first. A late war Scenario only makes sense after mid ware scenarios have been there. Otherwise many people will also just buy their super 1944 planes and leave all the other interesting stuff aside that happend before.(A bit like with BoM) Btw: I want a P-38! :biggrin:

Did someone say P38? That is the main reason that I would love a pacific/USAAF centered expansion. 

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Easy, just model the p47. I couldnt care less for the mustang. With the upgrade to DX11 they *might* be able to free some CPU resources to be able to model 4 engine planes.

There was an equally massive tactical bombing war in the West with plenty of opportunity to create twin engines bombers. Blenheim, Mosqito, Beaufighter, B-26, B26, etc. we can go west without the heavies, at least for a while.

 

I'd actually like to see Pacific and carrier ops and seaplanes but I'll throw a bucket of cash at pretty much anything this team creates.

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We know what we are going to do next and the next after that assuming we get the commitment for the budget. Can't say anything until that process is completed. No eta but within the next couple weeks probably, maybe sooner.

 

I can't wait till announce all our plans. But we can't do it all unless everyone, and I mean everyone gets behind us and buys everything we offer. It's going to be gut check time for everyone in this community and genre.

 

I head home in a few hours. Been a long week here in Moscow. The team has been great as always they are as committed as ever to

Sturmovik and combat simming in general.

 

Good times ahead.

 

Jason

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Good journey.

It's great to hear there's a decision being made and even the 4th installment path is clear to you.

 

Can't wait to hear about it.

 

Thanks for the heads up.

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We know what we are going to do next and the next after that assuming we get the commitment for the budget. Can't say anything until that process is completed. No eta but within the next couple weeks probably, maybe sooner.

 

I can't wait till announce all our plans. But we can't do it all unless everyone, and I mean everyone gets behind us and buys everything we offer. It's going to be gut check time for everyone in this community and genre.

 

I head home in a few hours. Been a long week here in Moscow. The team has been great as always they are as committed as ever to

Sturmovik and combat simming in general.

 

Good times ahead.

 

Jason

 

 

Sounds exciting! I hope you get that budget,this sim has brought me lots of hours of enjoyment and fun, and I intend to support it for the future projects.

 

Looking forward to hearing the announcement. 

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This is a true story I just made up: 

I heard that the developers - in order to celebrate the start of the Premier League - held a Foosball competition to decide which theater was next.

I think Jason chose Hull City and bicycle kicked his way to glory!  :lol:

 

On a more serious note, my discussions with the Finance Minister (wife) are completed and my meagre wallet is ready to be liberated by the next IL-2 installment.

 

If you make it, I will buy it!  :salute:

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But we can't do it all unless everyone, and I mean everyone gets behind us and buys everything we offer. It's going to be gut check time for everyone in this community and genre.

Ok i will buy everything, that the team offers. I will stand behind the general software pakage. Its in the summ of planes, maps, game enviroment the best complete package on the market. Also it is not flawless and has some space for improvements. The team is improving the game step by step. So i believe the team stands behind us customers. Since the 64 bit upgrade the quality(stability) of the game, has make a big step in the right direction. The following updates continues this path, and i hope the team can hold this performance.

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Good luck to the team.

 

A few month ago I had made the prediction that we will next see Kuban and after that Kursk. I am curious if my prediction was right.

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We know what we are going to do next and the next after that assuming we get the commitment for the budget. Can't say anything until that process is completed. No eta but within the next couple weeks probably, maybe sooner.

 

I can't wait till announce all our plans. But we can't do it all unless everyone, and I mean everyone gets behind us and buys everything we offer. It's going to be gut check time for everyone in this community and genre.

 

I head home in a few hours. Been a long week here in Moscow. The team has been great as always they are as committed as ever to

Sturmovik and combat simming in general.

 

Good times ahead.

 

Jason

 

Oh the tease... 

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Here's hoping for the Med or the Pacific...

 

Hope it all works out, as the game is really getting better now.

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Good luck with it, but threats don't work on me, in fact they have the opposite effect. Sounds to me like the game is in a financial crossroads. Probably due to the bad decisions made in the past. I'll be keeping my money, I'm not going to finance another Eastern front expansion in the hope a western Europe/north African theatre gets made in the future. If that's all were going to get I'll play other things.

It can sound harsh, but with all respect I agree. I have done my part supporting this game. Right now I am done buying something I don't like in hopes that something I do like will come later. Been there done that. Twice.

I hope something different will come. If not, with all honesty good luck with the game. It's been fun. You'll see my money when something I enjoy is produced. S!

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