[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted September 15, 2018 1 hour ago, 216th_Cat said: The poor old Il-2s don't stand a chance against the 30mm. Whereas we used to be able take masses of damage and keep going now one or two hits take the wings or tail straight off. A very effective weapon indeed. How did the VVS fight against it? Or do we create an artificial situation in BoX in that too many fighters are down low, having no high altitude targets to go for? I realise that combat on the Eastern front was primarily at lower altitudes than in the West and we have combats that don't really reflect reality because of the game's limitations, but I wonder. Edit: just came across this - interesting. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2015/11/06/il-2-combat-operations-during-1943-1944/ However, the successes of attack aircraft combat operations were accomplished with great losses. The Luftwaffe Command claimed that the Russians lost 6,900 Il-2s in 1943 and 7,300 in the following year. Although these figures exaggerated the losses by a factor of 2 to 2.2, they were substantial nonetheless. In 1943 one loss corresponded to 26 Il-2 sorties, and to even fewer in certain operations. Approximately half of those lost were shot down by enemy fighters, the other half falling to anti-aircraft fire of ground-based guns. Assessing the main reasons for such great losses, the Air Force Commander, A Novikov, considered that poor training of the crews and units was not to blame, but attributed them to flawed tactical procedures in attack aircraft operation. On almost all fronts the pilots adopted a peculiar scheme of approaching the target at 3,300 to 4,900ft (1,000 to 1,500m) altitude without considering its nature, then gliding down and recovering after the attack with a turn, to port. The enemy therefore knew the ‘attackers’ manoeuvres beforehand, and prepared all of his anti-aircraft defences, taking full advantage of relief features, forest, bushes etc, before their appearance over the battlefield. The German Bf 109 and Focke-Wulf Fw 190 attacked successfully when the Il-2 gunners were inattentive and the formations were broken up. A damaged and lagging Il-2 often became the victim of fighters. However, attack aircraft pilots could sometimes use skilful defensive tactics, and gunners mastered aggressive fire techniques. A loss rate of 1 in 26 sorties would do me! At a rate of 3 to 4 sorties per FNBF then you Luftwaffe fighter guys would need to leave us alone for at least two months! 22 of those were vodka runs though... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_SilentEskimo 265 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) "POUNDER" through the eyes of the Sturmoviks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgKS5moe9C8 Edited September 15, 2018 by 216th_SilentEskimo 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) Friday Night Bomber Flights Mission September 14th: "Pounder!" AAR Axis: Destroyed 2 Factory Sections. 6 Factory Warehouses. 1 Fuel Bunker. 2 Ammo Bunkers. Ust' Labinskaya. Destroyed 4 Warehouses. 1 Fuel Bunker. 2 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Barracks. 3 Control Towers. Guriyskaya. Destroyed 1 Kv_1 Armored Column. Saratovskaya. Destroyed 6 T-34/76. 6 Air/Action. Engaged and Destroyed 3 T-34/76. 3 Tank/Action. Destroyed 4 Kv_1-42 Anti-Tank/Action. Engaged and Destroyed 5 Kv-1. 5 Tank/Action. Destroyed 2 T-70. 2 Air/Action. Shot Down 6 IL2-43. 4 Air/Action. 2 Flak. Shot Down 6 Yak1-B. 6 Air/Action. Shot Down 6 A-20B. 6 Air/Action. Shot Down 3 Spitfire MkIXe. 3 Air/Action. Shot Down 2 Pe-2 s.87. 1 Air/Action. 1 Flak. 12 Flak/Vehicles. Guriyskaya. Ust' Labinskaya. Ju-52 Operations: 17th Army Lines Ryazanskaya Supplied via Field Cargo Deliveries. Wounded Transferred Korenovskaya Field Hospital to 17th Army Hospital Krasnodar Losses: Dinkskaya Fuel and Ammo Depot Destroyed. Ryazanskaya 17th Army Lines Falling back with Heavy Losses. Saratovskaya Anti-Tank Line Destroyed. 9 Fuel Bunkers. 4 Ammo Bunkers. 2 vl_Factories. 1 Supply Hanger. 2 Dugout Complexes. Dinkskaya. 4 Dugout Complexes. 4 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Fuel Bunkers. 1 Control Tower. Ryazanskaya. 1 Bridge. 2 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Barracks. 2 Control Towers. 1 Supply Hanger. Saratovskaya. 4 PzMkIV-G Destroyed. 1 Air/Action. 3 Anti-Tank/Action. 3 Pak-40 Destroyed. 2 Air/Action. 1 Anti-Tank/Action. 2 88mm Anti-Tank Guns Destroyed. 2 Anti-Tank/Action. 1 Tiger MkVI Engaged and Destroyed. 1 Tank/Action. 5 Bf109G-14 lost. 5 Air/Action. 1 Fw190A-8 lost. 1 Flak. 5 Bf110G-2 lost. 5 Air/Action. 5 Bf109G-6 lost. 1 Air/Action. 3 Ju-52 lost. 3 Air/Action. 25 Flak/Vehicles. Dinskaya. Saratovskaya. Ryazanskaya. Vasurinskaya. 5 Pilots/Gunners. 1 MIA/Captured VVS: Destroyed Dinkskaya Fuel and Ammo Depot. Ryazanskaya 17th Army Lines Falling back with Heavy Losses. Destroyed Saratovskaya Anti-Tank Line. Destroyed 9 Fuel Bunkers. 4 Ammo Bunkers. 2 vl_Factories. 1 Supply Hanger. 2 Dugout Complexes. Dinkskaya. Destroyed 4 Dugout Complexes. 4 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Fuel Bunkers. 1 Control Tower. Ryazanskaya. Destroyed 1 Bridge. 2 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Barracks. 2 Control Towers. 1 Supply Hanger. Saratovskaya. Destroyed 4 PzMkIV-G. 1 Air/Action. 3 Anti-Tank/Action. Destroyed 3 Pak-40. 2 Air/Action. 1 Anti-Tank/Action. Destroyed 2 88mm Anti-Tank Guns. 2 Anti-Tank/Action. Engaged and Destroyed 1 Tiger MkVI. 1 Tank/Action. Shot Down 5 Bf109G-14. 5 Air/Action. Shot Down 1 Fw190A-8. 1 Flak. Shot Down 5 Bf110G-2. 5 Air/Action. Shot Down 5 Bf109G-6. 1 Air/Action. Shot Down 3 Ju-52. 3 Air/Action. 25 Flak/Vehicles. Dinskaya. Saratovskaya. Ryazanskaya. Vasurinskaya. Losses: 2 Factory Sections. 6 Factory Warehouses. 1 Fuel Bunker. 2 Ammo Bunkers. Ust' Labinskaya. 4 Warehouses. 1 Fuel Bunker. 2 Ammo Bunkers. 2 Barracks. 3 Control Towers. Guriyskaya. 1 Kv_1 Armored Column. Saratovskaya. 6 T-34/76 Destroyed. 6 Air/Action. 3 T-34/76 Engaged and Destroyed. 3 Tank/Action. 4 Kv_1-42 Destroyed Anti-Tank/Action. 5 Kv-1 Engaged and Destroyed. 5 Tank/Action. 2 T-70 Destroyed. 2 Air/Action. 6 IL2-43 lost. 4 Air/Action. 2 Flak. 6 Yak1-B lost. 6 Air/Action. 6 A-20B lost. 6 Air/Action. 3 Spitfire MkIXe lost. 3 Air/Action. 2 Pe-2 s.87 lost. 1 Air/Action. 1 Flak. 12 Flak/Vehicles. Guriyskaya. Ust' Labinskaya. 13 Pilots/Gunners. 8 MIA/Captured Pilot Stats* Thanks Marta! Great Time and Well Flown All. Participation makes it Happen. We'll look into a new mission after the next update. Tip Edited September 16, 2018 by [DBS]Tx_Tip 2 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asgar 1071 Posted September 18, 2018 so many Russian tanks lost in ground action... i wonder what happened there 😄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jizzo 125 Posted September 18, 2018 Legit Racoon sabotage and you know it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
II./JG77_motoadve 470 Posted September 20, 2018 No mission this Friday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]El_Marta 127 Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) Hi motoadve. Due to time constraints FNBF is no longer a weekly event, but will take place now and than. Since the creative head behind FNBF has escaped the treadmill of weekly deliverance , FNBF missions will be even more elaborated and precious. Edited September 20, 2018 by [DBS]El_Marta 3 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13Nrv 71 Posted September 21, 2018 Ok , i will be there , now and then too Cya 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuseKofte 1419 Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) I do not mind it , really, But might I suggest a little change in the plane set while at it. I really hoped to fly last time, but due to no HE 111 pilots we ended up with 3 JU 52 pilots for 2 JU 52 available . Now I would not mind flying Co pilot but sitting in gunner position is a bit off. Can we have a plan B next time. If a similar thing happens next time can we use more on one type of airplane if all slots are taken, and numbers are to few to make two flights? As said earlier the fewer FNBF the more precious Edited September 21, 2018 by LuseKofte 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted October 1, 2018 Next Friday Night Bomber Flights Mission to be October 12th @ 19:00 UTC: Roadstead!" Plane set, mission info and signups will be next Sunday Oct. 7th. See ya's, Tip 5 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TG1_Nil 652 Posted October 1, 2018 50 minutes ago, [DBS]Tx_Tip said: Next Friday Night Bomber Flights Mission to be October 12th @ 19:00 UTC: Roadstead!" Yepeee! yet another fantastic mission! thank you so much Tip! I know it is a lot of work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NN_Razor 82 Posted October 2, 2018 Yeaaa baby yeaaaa! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted October 3, 2018 Spits not cooling and bridges are down. Prepare to go retro on this one unless the P-47 makes an appearance in which case the plane set will be adjusted accordingly... Tip 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Cat 457 Posted October 3, 2018 Quote 7 hours ago, [DBS]Tx_Tip said: Spits not cooling and bridges are down. Prepare to go retro on this one unless the P-47 makes an appearance in which case the plane set will be adjusted accordingly... Tip Retro? I-16s and the Moscow map? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No.64_Drifter 341 Posted October 5, 2018 I would love to go back to moscow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NN_Razor 82 Posted October 5, 2018 11 hours ago, SCG_DR1FT3R said: I would love to go back to moscow! I know u want fly the Emil. That's a good idea if i can fly in may little 1B. 😄 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted October 5, 2018 12 hours ago, SCG_DR1FT3R said: I would love to go back to moscow! How's your Italian? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Friday Night Bomber Flights October 12th @ 19:00 UTC: Roadstead!" Mission Time: 07:03-09:45Conditions: 3*c... Cloudy. Steady Winds from the NE.Situation: 1942 Kerch Front ***Please note Time Change to 19:00 UTC. **Patrol areas will be shown on Map. Additional targeting if needed to be sent via PM following Player Recon. Full FNBF ROE will apply. *UK_1 Server Settings for Friday Night Bomber Flights will be Full CEM, No Icon, No Navigational aides. *TS will be the Official BoS server (108.61.114.3:9407) password bos2014; in one of the MP Channels. *Note IP Change to BoS TS. =Backup TS Address will be: ts3.riseofflight.net:7777 - Password: 1917 Planeset:Axis Ju-88A-3 (4) 1) Jantzen 2) vonJarno 3) SCG_Boo 4) BF110E-2 (2) 1) 6./ZG26_Kruppis 2) 6./ZG26_Memphis Ju-87D-3 (4) 1) WWGriphos 2) 6./ZG26_BlueBunny 3) SCG_CorZero 4) 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann BF109F-2 (10) 1) 6./ZG26_Asgar 2) steinh0ff 3) Jizzo 4) II/JG11PUMA 5) II/JG11ATLAN 6) II/JG11Terzerole 7) SCG_Riksen 8) SCG_ 9) SCG_ 10) SCG_ Ju-52 (2) 1) Nil 2) JG5_Schuck VVS IL2-41 (3) 1) 216th_Cathaoir 2) 216th_Cat 3) 216th_Nocke P-40E (4) 1) [DBS] 2) [DBS] 3) Bladebender 4) 307th Pe-2 s.35/A-20B (5) 1) [DBS] 2) [DBS] 3) [DBS] 4) 216th Retnek 5) 13Nrv *STB Bex I-16 (2) 1) 307th_Tomcat 2) 307th_Banzai Lagg-3 (3) 1) NN_Razor 2) NN_Oscar 3) NN_Lambert 4) NN_Tango Mig-3 (5) 1) 216th_Lucas 2) 1.JaVA_Biggles 3) 1.JaVA_Keben 4) 216th_Pod 5) 1.JaVA_Jumper *Planeset may be subject to slight revision as I create the mission. Signup Here... Full Signup, Roster sheet visit our Battle-fields site Here... Look forward to flying with you. Tip Edited October 11, 2018 by [DBS]Tx_Tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Cathaoir 26 Posted October 7, 2018 Hi Tip...can I get 2 Il2's for me and Cat....thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, 216th_Cathaoir said: Hi Tip...can I get 2 Il2's for me and Cat....thanks I thought Cat wanted to fly the I-16... NP though. In as IL2s... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6./ZG26_Kuppis 29 Posted October 7, 2018 2 bf110 and 2 bf 109 f2 for 6./zg26 please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Nocke 168 Posted October 7, 2018 I'll take the 3rd IL2, please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWGriphos 42 Posted October 7, 2018 I’ll take a Stuka, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I./ZG1_BlueBunny 21 Posted October 7, 2018 Hello Tip,can I have a Ju 87 please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
II/JG11ATLAN 265 Posted October 7, 2018 3x Bf109 F2 for Puma terzerole and Atlan please Thx II/JG11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NN_Razor 82 Posted October 7, 2018 Two Lag3 for NN_Oscar and me please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Lucas_From_Hell 1730 Posted October 7, 2018 MiG-3 please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, 6./ZG26_Kuppis said: 2 bf110 and 2 bf 109 f2 for 6./zg26 please! In... 13 minutes ago, 216th_Lucas_From_Hell said: MiG-3 please! and In... 22 minutes ago, NN_Razor said: Two Lag3 for NN_Oscar and me please. Done... 1 hour ago, II/JG11ATLAN said: 3x Bf109 F2 for Puma terzerole and Atlan please Thx II/JG11 and Done... 1 hour ago, WWGriphos said: I’ll take a Stuka, please. You got it... 1 hour ago, 6./ZG26_BlueBunny said: Hello Tip,can I have a Ju 87 please? You bet BlueBunny and Welcome to FNBFs... 1 hour ago, Jizzo said: F2 please. F2 it is... 1 hour ago, 216th_Nocke said: I'll take the 3rd IL2, please! Down with the IL2... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Retnek 265 Posted October 7, 2018 I'd gladly take a Pe-2, please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No.64_Drifter 341 Posted October 7, 2018 No EU? NOOOOOOOO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuseKofte 1419 Posted October 8, 2018 Can you please put me on reserve on the JU 52 or JU 87, Think I will be able to join Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, 216th_Retnek said: I'd gladly take a Pe-2, please! You got it... 13 hours ago, SCG_Riksen said: 4 F2s please SCG down with the F-2s... 8 hours ago, LuseKofte said: Can you please put me on reserve on the JU 52 or JU 87, Think I will be able to join Reserve it is for the Luse... =========================================== Comrades needed for Migs, Laggs, I-16s and a P-40... Axis Strike aircraft are open for business. Tip Edited October 8, 2018 by [DBS]Tx_Tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No.64_Drifter 341 Posted October 8, 2018 E7* love auto correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1.JaVA_Biggles 161 Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Hi Tip 4x Mig3 for1.JaVA please😅 1.JaVA_Biggles 1.JaVA_Keben 1.JaVA_Chanceless 1.JaVA_Jumper Thanx & Cheers Biggles Edited October 8, 2018 by 1.JaVA_Biggles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Pod 95 Posted October 8, 2018 Can you sign me up for an I-16, please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, 1.JaVA_Biggles said: Hi Tip 4x Mig3 for1.JaVA please😅 1.JaVA_Biggles 1.JaVA_Keben 1.JaVA_Chanceless 1.JaVA_Jumper Thanx & Cheers Biggles Here we go now... 46 minutes ago, 216th_Pod said: Can you sign me up for an I-16, please? You bet Pod... ================================== Axis needs Ju-88 and Stuka pilots. I-16 a couple Laggs and a P-40 remain for VVS. Full Signup, Roster sheet above or visit our Battle-fields site Here... Look forward to flying with you. Tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NN_Razor 82 Posted October 8, 2018 The two last Lagg3 for NN_Lambert and NN_Tango please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jantzen 7 Posted October 8, 2018 Hello, one Ju-88 please, if that is okey. Greetings J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
