Fahrenheit 45 Posted September 11, 2018 Hi Tip, I just notice that you put me in as NN_Razor booked 4 seats for NN but I don't fly anymore, so you can free this seat for NN. Good luck to VVS pilots, 10 fighters vs 14 (17 if we consider Bf 110 as heavy fighters and what they can do once bombs out). Have fun. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWGriphos 42 Posted September 11, 2018 Give Luse the Ju-52, and if I can make it, I’ll fill in on the Axis side where needed, perhaps in the He-111, which still seems to need pilots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuseKofte 1419 Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Fahrenheit said: 10 fighters vs 14 Well we can't claim Bias, DBS is the big fat bait for all of them 😄 1 minute ago, WWGriphos said: Give Luse the Ju-52 Thanks, But you where first on it. I be on Teamspeak at time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NETSCAPE 514 Posted September 11, 2018 Put me down for a He 111. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) Friday Night Bomber Flights September 14th @ 19:00 UTC: Pounder!" Mission Time: 09:48-12:30Conditions: 21*c... Cloudy. Winds from the SE.Situation: 17th Army attempts to consolidate lines as 5th Guards applies pressure along the front. ***Please note Time Change to 19:00 UTC. **Patrol areas will be shown on Map. Additional targeting if needed to be sent via PM following Player Recon. Full FNBF ROE will apply. *UK_1 Server Settings for Friday Night Bomber Flights will be Full CEM, No Icon, No Navigational aides. *TS will be the Official BoS server (108.61.114.3:9407) password bos2014; in one of the MP Channels. *Note IP Change to BoS TS. =Backup TS Address will be: ts3.riseofflight.net:7777 - Password: 1917 Planeset:Axis He-111H-16 (3) 1) Netscape 2) WWGriphos 3) Bf110G-2 (3) 1) 6./ZG26_Asgar 2) 6./ZG26_Memphis 3) 6./ZG26_Kuppis Fw190A-8 (4) 1) SCG_Fenris_Wolf 1) SCG_Vonalba 1) SCG_CorZero 1) SCG_Drifter BF-109G-14 (6) 1) SGC_Riksen 2) SGC_Von Jarno 3) SGC_Marine 4) SGC_Sinerox 5) SGC_Miller 6) SGC_ZKXChris BF-109G-6 (4) 1) II/JG11ATLAN 2) II/JG11PUMA 3) II/JG11Terzerole 4) Ju-52 (2) 1) Nil 2) Lusekofte *Reserve VVS IL2-42/43 (5) 1) 216th_Silent Eskimo 2) 216th_Cat 3) 216th_Cathaoir 4) 216th_Nocke 5) 216th_Retnek Pe-2 s.87/A-20B (7) 1) [DBS] 2) [DBS] 3) [DBS] 4) [DBS] 5) [DBS] 6) Bladebender 7) 13Nrv *Reserve Spitfire MkIXe/MkVb (4) 1) 216th_Lucas 2) 1.JaVA_KEBEN 3) 1.JaVA_Jumper 4) Jizzo *Reserve Yak1-B (6) 1) NN_Razor 2) NN_Lambert 3) 4) 5) 307_Tomcat 6) 307_Banzai *Planeset may be subject to slight revision as I create the mission. Kv-1 and Tiger I sorties dependent upon mission flow will be included. Signup Here... Full Signup, Roster sheet visit our Battle-fields site Here... Look forward to flying with you. Tip Edited September 14, 2018 by [DBS]Tx_Tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NN_Razor 83 Posted September 11, 2018 I'm very confuse but for differents reasons, there're will be just NN_Lambert and NN_Razor who will be able to defend our colors next friday. So two yak are free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, NETSCAPE said: Put me down for a He 111. In with a Heinkel and welcome to FNBF Netscape. Briefing Packs to go out tomorrow. RoE included. Look forward to flying with you, Tip 35 minutes ago, NN_Razor said: I'm very confuse but for differents reasons, there're will be just NN_Lambert and NN_Razor who will be able to defend our colors next friday. So two yak are free. Thanks for the heads up... Okay that'll leave a Yak1-B open. Leon I've penciled you in to a Yak. You can transition over to Spit if you'd like as noted within the RoE. =================================== 2 He-111s, one 109G-6 and a Yak1-B remain. See ya's, Tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted September 12, 2018 Mission "Pounder!" targeting sent out via PM to those who have signed up on this Forum. Forward to those you have signed up. If you signed up and didn't get Give a Holl'er. Nil your Brief is over at BF Forum. See ya's, Tip 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_SilentEskimo 265 Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) Hi Tip,there is some confusuion about the meaning of the new rule: "14) Captured. New*** A 4 strikes and your either delegated to the Tank Corps if applicable or a Gunners Position is now in effect. Players who are shot down, bailout, crash etc. and are captured including within the mulligan period will have 1 strike applied." Does that mean after being captured 3 times,including the mulligan,you are not allowed to take off again? Edited September 13, 2018 by 216th_SilentEskimo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon_Portier 70 Posted September 13, 2018 Just got notice, that I have to free the Yak1-b. See you next time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, 216th_SilentEskimo said: Hi Tip,there is some confusuion about the meaning of the new rule: "14) Captured. New*** A 4 strikes and your either delegated to the Tank Corps if applicable or a Gunners Position is now in effect. Players who are shot down, bailout, crash etc. and are captured including within the mulligan period will have 1 strike applied." Does that mean after being captured 3 times,including the mulligan,you are not allowed to take off again? The captured strikes accrue from the beginning of the mission. After you are captured for the 4th time you have an option of spawning in as a T-34/Kv-1 if available or becoming a gunner. Basically the same as if you'd died after the mulligan had expired. 1 hour ago, Leon_Portier said: Just got notice, that I have to free the Yak1-b. See you next time! Copy that Leon. Thanks for the heads up. ===================================== Okay Yak drivers 2 slots open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_SilentEskimo 265 Posted September 13, 2018 @[DBS]Tx_Tip Thanks,now it is clear! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kestrel79 116 Posted September 13, 2018 How long will this mission take? I'm off of work tomorrow and might be able to swing it before my band plays. Haven't flown online in ages might be fun to take up a bomber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DBS]Tx_Tip 677 Posted September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, kestrel79 said: How long will this mission take? I'm off of work tomorrow and might be able to swing it before my band plays. Haven't flown online in ages might be fun to take up a bomber. It is fun Kestrel. Missions run for 2 hours and 42 minutes and we generally get started as advertised at or shortly after 19:00 UTC. Heinkel drivers are needed. I can send you an Axis Briefing Pack if your interested. Tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kestrel79 116 Posted September 14, 2018 Thanks for the info! It will have to be another time gotta be on the road by then sorry! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWGriphos 42 Posted September 14, 2018 I’m going to be able to make it. Stick me in a Heineken with Netscape. But don’t expect us not to perhaps get lost! And it’s been a while since I’ve flown the beast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NN_Razor 83 Posted September 14, 2018 Griphos, tell me from where u'll take off, and where u want to go, 'ill try to help u. 😃 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWGriphos 42 Posted September 14, 2018 Thanks, Razor. The other Heinkel pilot didn't show, so I wound up flying the Junkers (and getting killed while loading wounded soldiers....is there no respect for the red cross anymore?!?! 🙂). Great fun! Thanks again Tip for these wonderful missions. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NN_Razor 83 Posted September 14, 2018 That's will be for next time. I've been shot down by 5 hungry G14...Nothing to do.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Retnek 265 Posted September 14, 2018 SOOO nice! Thx! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Lucas_From_Hell 1730 Posted September 15, 2018 Jizzo and I were about to do our best Maverick and Goose impression with a show-off fly-by in Indian territory but five spoilsports decided to interrupt our art so we had to shoot three of them down. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCG_Riksen 792 Posted September 15, 2018 You guys definately caught us off guard ... we were still taking off and forming up. Not a nice surprise lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asgar 1071 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) We had a great night with some mixed results during our sorties, but this was definitely the most exciting one. Thanks for the great evenin lads o7 Spoiler bonus tank clip Edited September 15, 2018 by 6./ZG26_Asgar 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jizzo 125 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, 216th_Lucas_From_Hell said: Jizzo and I were about to do our best Maverick and Goose impression with a show-off fly-by in Indian territory but five spoilsports decided to interrupt our art so we had to shoot three of them down. I really should have flown inverted right above your cockpit showing the thumbs up, after we decided to do that stuff, to get the immersionfactor up to perfectionist levels! Edited September 15, 2018 by Jizzo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
II/JG11ATLAN 266 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) nice Event as usual, shot down some IL-2´s 🤩,see some pics from our perpective yesterday II/JG11 says Thank you to all, especially Tip😀 Edited September 15, 2018 by II/JG11ATLAN 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Cat 467 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) Just our luck - flying unescorted beneath 4x bomb-carrying 190s and their 5x 109 escorts! There was a mix-up with our escort assignments, apparently . Atlan, you don't appear to have our skins - I noticed it in last mission's pics as well. Cheers. Edit: the dropbox link is dead. I'll see what I can do. Edited September 15, 2018 by 216th_Cat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
II/JG11ATLAN 266 Posted September 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, 216th_Cat said: Just our luck - flying unescorted beneath 4x bomb-carrying 190s and their 5x 109 escorts! There was a mix-up with our escort assignments, apparently . Atlan, you don't appear to have our skins - I noticed it in last mission's pics as well. Cheers. IN DEED ! ok will download your Skins now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCG_Riksen 792 Posted September 15, 2018 Yes, thay was us and then we saw yoi guys jumping in the middle when we engaged the il2s but from what I remember the il2s shot u down and not the other way around ... Am I crazy? Did you get all of them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
II/JG11ATLAN 266 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SCG_Riksen said: Yes, thay was us and then we saw yoi guys jumping in the middle when we engaged the il2s but from what I remember the il2s shot u down and not the other way around ... Am I crazy? Did you get all of them? Terzerole shot down 2x il2s and was also hit and bailed out me shot down 1x il2 and landed safely Edited September 15, 2018 by II/JG11ATLAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCG_Riksen 792 Posted September 15, 2018 Nice. Good ... when we saw you guys in there we aborted the attack and maintained escort for the 190s. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCG_vonJarno 10 Posted September 15, 2018 It was a blast to fly in eastern front after few months break. Big hand to Tip for arranging these events! Btw, where I can find a link to download 216th and II/JG11 skins? ..and of course rest of the squads also. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
II/JG11ATLAN 266 Posted September 15, 2018 skins https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/19154-fnbfs-vvs-paint-shopincludes-some-luftwaffe-skins/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Retnek 265 Posted September 15, 2018 1 hour ago, II/JG11ATLAN said: Terzerole shot down 2x il2s and was also hit and bailed out me shot down 1x il2 and landed safely Nasty surprise for us IL-2, this mix-up with blue fighter-bombers ruined the first flight. Poor motherland needs more fighters! Those 109s were surprisingly effective, impressive shooting or some 30 mm boosters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
II/JG11ATLAN 266 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 216th_Retnek said: Nasty surprise for us IL-2, this mix-up with blue fighter-bombers ruined the first flight. Poor motherland needs more fighters! Those 109s were surprisingly effective, impressive shooting or some 30 mm boosters? we both have MK108 30MM Edited September 15, 2018 by II/JG11ATLAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Retnek 265 Posted September 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, II/JG11ATLAN said: we both have MK108 30MM I see, thx. This is a relief somewhat, that's why our sturdy IL-2 gave up that soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No.64_Drifter 341 Posted September 15, 2018 I was wondering who was escorting my flight of 190s other than the other 109s from SCG, good kills there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuseKofte 1419 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) The 109, 110 and 190 got considerable fighter capabilities also and make the balance tricky . just the way it is, I gave my JU 52 to griphos so i did not fly myself Edited September 15, 2018 by LuseKofte Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
216th_Cat 467 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) The poor old Il-2s don't stand a chance against the 30mm. Whereas we used to be able take masses of damage and keep going now one or two hits take the wings or tail straight off. A very effective weapon indeed. How did the VVS fight against it? Or do we create an artificial situation in BoX in that too many fighters are down low, having no high altitude targets to go for? I realise that combat on the Eastern front was primarily at lower altitudes than in the West and we have combats that don't really reflect reality because of the game's limitations, but I wonder. Edit: just came across this - interesting. https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2015/11/06/il-2-combat-operations-during-1943-1944/ However, the successes of attack aircraft combat operations were accomplished with great losses. The Luftwaffe Command claimed that the Russians lost 6,900 Il-2s in 1943 and 7,300 in the following year. Although these figures exaggerated the losses by a factor of 2 to 2.2, they were substantial nonetheless. In 1943 one loss corresponded to 26 Il-2 sorties, and to even fewer in certain operations. Approximately half of those lost were shot down by enemy fighters, the other half falling to anti-aircraft fire of ground-based guns. Assessing the main reasons for such great losses, the Air Force Commander, A Novikov, considered that poor training of the crews and units was not to blame, but attributed them to flawed tactical procedures in attack aircraft operation. On almost all fronts the pilots adopted a peculiar scheme of approaching the target at 3,300 to 4,900ft (1,000 to 1,500m) altitude without considering its nature, then gliding down and recovering after the attack with a turn, to port. The enemy therefore knew the ‘attackers’ manoeuvres beforehand, and prepared all of his anti-aircraft defences, taking full advantage of relief features, forest, bushes etc, before their appearance over the battlefield. The German Bf 109 and Focke-Wulf Fw 190 attacked successfully when the Il-2 gunners were inattentive and the formations were broken up. A damaged and lagging Il-2 often became the victim of fighters. However, attack aircraft pilots could sometimes use skilful defensive tactics, and gunners mastered aggressive fire techniques. A loss rate of 1 in 26 sorties would do me! At a rate of 3 to 4 sorties per FNBF then you Luftwaffe fighter guys would need to leave us alone for at least two months! Edited September 15, 2018 by 216th_Cat 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuseKofte 1419 Posted September 15, 2018 To be historical in Kuban, resources got to be simulated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites