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Whatever he was doing it wasn’t in the spirit of TAW, and was probably something to do with bending and flexing the rules or his interpretation of the rules, I mean, off the top of my head, was he acting as a forward observer, vectoring in blues to red aircraft as they flew over him, it’s his own fault people are suspicious of him, and he continues to defend his devious actions.

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On 2/19/2019 at 4:52 PM, SeaSerpent said:

 

You mean the guy in the scarlett red I-16?  It's very likely that the E7 that took a quick snapshot was me.  Here's the thing:  I was orbiting high over the fight for what appeared to be a couple of minutes.  In that time, I saw him damaging at least two of you, and it really seemed that the fight was in question, and even though the guy was going to eventually be doomed due to the numbers, he still appeared quite alive and doing very well against the odds.  I decided to dive in and take a shot, in and out, and I was in good position to end the fight once and for all.  In these situations it's a judgement call, and I always try to be careful not to cut someone off, force them to cease fire, or veer away to avoid a collision...I wouldn't have engaged if I thought I was putting any friendlies at a risk of collision or friendly fire.  This is always the problem with the label "kill steal"....it's very subjective.  One guy might be thinking "who the heck just 'stole' my kill," but I I'm thinking, we have to end this fight now so we can all get the heck out of here!  If we had been on comms, I would have announced that the top cover was going to come on down and do what a Bf-109 does best, boom and zoom...I had the energy and the element of surprise.  Even then, if you had opened fire before you passed under my nose, I most likely would have pull off; believe me, I don't want to be flying through your stream of gunfire any more than you want me to!  If I hadn't blown through, you probably would have gotten the kill in the next few seconds, but I had to make the judgement call, I did, the guy went down, and whoever got the kill, it ended it, and gave us all the opportunity to stop fixating on that guy and regaining a larger situational awareness.  Hopefully the guys he damaged were then able to get out of Dodge and get home.  I suggest we all be very careful with the term "kill stealer" because not all situations deserve the label, or are as straight forward to everyone as they seem, and especially if we aren't on comms, we don't always know if another player who appears to be attaining a good shot position is going to be able to close the deal or not.  As we know, the longer a fight like that goes on, the more likely other enemies are going to come in and ruin your day, and that dogfight had been going on too long, imo. If you see me in that same situation, and in your judgement you can blow on through and nail the enemy without putting me in danger of collision or having to veer off, please come in and take the shot!  I might be pissed because I really wanted to be the one to close the deal and get the kill, but I'll know you did the right thing when I consider the larger picture.

 

 Bingo!  Yes, it was you! Yes, I have no issue with your actions - especially after you shared your logic and reason (...if my wife came to the table with logic and reason, we would have much fewer fights 😀)

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1 hour ago, Banzaii said:

Funny how you're sticking up for him without even an explanation,.

His history of doing stuff like this is enough to warrant a scolding from all those who care about TAW.

 

 

Don't change the subject, just answer the question.  If he was dropping a deuce, would that be okay to you?

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8 minutes ago, Trefftz_Plane said:

 

Don't change the subject, just answer the question.  If he was dropping a deuce, would that be okay to you?

If you think that's the reason your hi as a kite ...btw from what I've been told gunners shooting AAA doesn't register on stats, haven't tested it yet, would be interesting to confirm that.  Land at an enemy unoccupied airfield, taxi, take out AAA with gunner positions, then take back off and bomb unimpeded by aaa and flak.  That's my hypothesis.

Or instead of defending him, let him be a man and respond to the allegations, xjammer your'e not at work, so stop trying to break code.

 

If I were red I'd boycott the round, no red players, xjammer can fight by himself until he is dealt with.

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15 minutes ago, Trefftz_Plane said:

 

Don't change the subject, just answer the question.  If he was dropping a deuce, would that be okay to you?

 

The answer from me is no, no it’s not ok, to land on the enemy’s side of the lines, for any reason, and take off again, like I’ve said, doing such thing is not in the spirit of this server, take it elsewhere. 

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2 минуты назад, SYN_Repent сказал:

 

The answer from me is no, no it’s not ok, to land on the enemy’s side of the lines, for any reason, and take off again, like I’ve said, doing such thing is not in the spirit of this server, take it elsewhere. 

 

Maybe i am wrong, but ... please ...do not speak like that. It is your OWN opinion, i have not seen any suggestion from the administation.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Krauz said:

 

Maybe i am wrong, but ... please ...do not speak like that. It is your OWN opinion, i have not seen any suggestion from the administation.

 

 

 

Yes you are wrong, as i said, the answer from ME is no, ME, not anyone else xjammer 2

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36 minutes ago, Banzaii said:

If you think that's the reason your hi as a kite

 

You're avoiding answering the question.  Why can't just answer the question?

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25 minutes ago, Krauz said:

 

Maybe i am wrong, but ... please ...do not speak like that. It is your OWN opinion, i have not seen any suggestion from the administation.

 

 

Still haven't posted those sorties. So the dudes got 3 accounts on here?

 

Krauz Trefftz and his xjammer account. Nobody in their right mind would defend anything about this guy.

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Just now, Trefftz_Plane said:

I admit it, I'm Krauz and xjammer.

So you are defending a guy who gets his jollies from being a complete turd?

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1 minute ago, JonRedcorn said:

So you are defending a guy who gets his jollies from being a complete turd?

 

Who said anything about defending him?  If you gotta poop, you gotta poop.

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2 minutes ago, Trefftz_Plane said:

 

Who said anything about defending him?

I did, just now in fact. Claiming the man who was landing at enemy airfields and shooting taxing pilots in the back with his turret gun was just taking a poop while being on the ground, again, in enemy territory is in my eyes defending him.

 

The guys got no respect for the game, the server or the players, its really just that simple. There's other servers he can play on. The guy just needs to find a new game to play. Maybe fortnight, since he seems to have the mental capacity of a 12 year-old.

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Just now, JonRedcorn said:

I did, just now in fact. Claiming the man who was landing at enemy airfields and shooting taxing pilots in the back with his turret gun was just taking a poop while being on the ground, again, in enemy territory is in my eyes defending him.

 

Do we have evidence he was shooting people while pooping?

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7 minutes ago, Trefftz_Plane said:

 

Do we have evidence he was shooting people while pooping?

He did it last taw, thus the entire reason for the new rules, not only did he do that but came here and gloated about it and thought it was the funniest thing he's ever seen. Apparently turrets don't register hits against ground targets in the logs. Really don't care to validate that claim or not. Based on previous behavior I'd argue he probably was.

 

Let me put it this way, say I was found guilty of lighting the local church on fire, admitted to it with glee even, then next month a church burns down and I am outside with a can of gas and a lighter in my hands, but this time I say I didn't do it. I wonder what people would think? Coincidence man.

 

I am done debating it, the guys a stain on the community, ban him, don't ban him I really don't care.

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One thing is for sure: The LW/VVS ratios for this TAW seem much worse than the one we just had prior.

 

Currently approx 44 vs 16. What's the point of even taking off? When it gets like this there are zero gaps in LW cover. As soon as you attack a defense point or some tanks you will instantly attract 5 BF109s with more coming. Even is you bring I-16s for cover you will be outnumbered and slaughtered. 

 

If you're flying VVS then it's no fun because you're flying against insurmountable odds. If you're flying LW then it's like the seagulls from finding nemo: "Mine, mine, mine!"

 

Who's enjoying themselves here?

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12 minutes ago, AirshowDisaster said:

One thing is for sure: The LW/VVS ratios for this TAW seem much worse than the one we just had prior.

 

Currently approx 44 vs 16. What's the point of even taking off? When it gets like this there are zero gaps in LW cover. As soon as you attack a defense point or some tanks you will instantly attract 5 BF109s with more coming. Even is you bring I-16s for cover you will be outnumbered and slaughtered. 

 

If you're flying VVS then it's no fun because you're flying against insurmountable odds. If you're flying LW then it's like the seagulls from finding nemo: "Mine, mine, mine!"

 

Who's enjoying themselves here?

No been my experience so far, its been pretty even teams most of the time. Does that happen , yes sometimes, on both teams. without balance changes it would be even worse.

Your experience happens to both teams at times. Lifes not always fair, neither is war, better team play and picking your targets is the best option when its like that.

 

Max cap is 44/45?? now i believe?

 

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3 minutes ago, AirshowDisaster said:

One thing is for sure: The LW/VVS ratios for this TAW seem much worse than the one we just had prior.

 

Currently approx 44 vs 16. What's the point of even taking off? When it gets like this there are zero gaps in LW cover. As soon as you attack a defense point or some tanks you will instantly attract 5 BF109s with more coming. Even is you bring I-16s for cover you will be outnumbered and slaughtered. 

 

If you're flying VVS then it's no fun because you're flying against insurmountable odds. If you're flying LW then it's like the seagulls from finding nemo: "Mine, mine, mine!"

 

Who's enjoying themselves here?

 

US prime time has always been a big issue in terms of balance with the exception of the previous TAW as you said it because SCG and a few other squads and players switched to VVS. The issue is the usual LW-only squadrons never switch and insist in flying LW every single TAW regardless of balance. They are selfish and have little respect for the campaign or the game. The numbers during EU time are, at least, controlled now but the problem during US prime time is still a big one. During the US prime time , the number of pilots rarely reaches those to completely fill the server like EU prime time does. So, IMHO, an additional system should be considered to benefit the players flying for the weaker side during this time of the day/night. Maybe allow VVS players to retain their planes even if they are lost or be able to fly better planes when the number is higher than 10 pilots? Maybe activate coalition balancer during US prime time? Maybe have a script to calculate amount of players and block additional connections if there is more than 25-30% imbalance in numbers? I have no idea how these things work but, at least for the first map, the balance felt better than the previous versions most of the day. I just hope the US player stacking LW get bored of flying against no opposition and consider switching sides for a change.

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33 minutes ago, JonRedcorn said:

He did it last taw, thus the entire reason for the new rules, not only did he do that but came here and gloated about it and thought it was the funniest thing he's ever seen. Apparently turrets don't register hits against ground targets in the logs. Really don't care to validate that claim or not. Based on previous behavior I'd argue he probably was.

 

Let me put it this way, say I was found guilty of lighting the local church on fire, admitted to it with glee even, then next month a church burns down and I am outside with a can of gas and a lighter in my hands, but this time I say I didn't do it. I wonder what people would think? Coincidence man.

 

I am done debating it, the guys a stain on the community, ban him, don't ban him I really don't care.

 

Well if he broke the rules then ban him.  But there's not enough information in the parsed data to make a determination that he did.   Why anybody would care about shooting AA that can't hit the broadside of a stationary barn(ju88) is beyond me.

11 minutes ago, SCG_Riksen said:

 

US prime time has always been a big issue in terms of balance with the exception of the previous TAW as you said it because SCG and a few other squads and players switched to VVS. The issue is the usual LW-only squadrons never switch and insist in flying LW every single TAW regardless of balance. They are selfish and have little respect for the campaign or the game. The numbers during EU time are, at least, controlled now but the problem during US prime time is still a big one. During the US prime time , the number of pilots rarely reaches those to completely fill the server like EU prime time does. So, IMHO, an additional system should be considered to benefit the players flying for the weaker side during this time of the day/night. Maybe allow VVS players to retain their planes even if they are lost or be able to fly better planes when the number is higher than 10 pilots? Maybe activate coalition balancer during US prime time? Maybe have a script to calculate amount of players and block additional connections if there is more than 25-30% imbalance in numbers? I have no idea how these things work but, at least for the first map, the balance felt better than the previous versions most of the day. I just hope the US player stacking LW get bored of flying against no opposition and consider switching sides for a change.

 

I went LW because during PST hours, it's a red horde...but the time zones are like you said, a big issue.

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I think there is no doubt that the subject in question is exploiting the game mechanics as much as he can.

 

The real question to discuss here is if exploiting should be allowed or even be encouraged in order to gain an advantage. In my opinion, searching for exploits to gain an advantage is at least unsportsmanlike and potentially hurting the fun for everyone involved in the game. 

 

That the TAW-Devs have to spent valuable free time to prevent a single individual from exploiting the game is showcasing the Problem quite well.

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25 minutes ago, SCG_Riksen said:

 

During the US prime time , the number of pilots rarely reaches those to completely fill the server like EU prime time does. So, IMHO, an additional system should be considered to benefit the players flying for the weaker side during this time of the day/night. Maybe allow VVS players to retain their planes even if they are lost or be able to fly better planes when the number is higher than 10 pilots? Maybe activate coalition balancer during US prime time? Maybe have a script to calculate amount of players and block additional connections if there is more than 25-30% imbalance in numbers? I have no idea how these things work but, at least for the first map, the balance felt better than the previous versions most of the day. I just hope the US player stacking LW get bored of flying against no opposition and consider switching sides for a change.

 

The problem is (from my perspective) that planes and pilots are a limited resource in this game mode which is what makes it enjoyable and exciting - usually. I'm not the best pilot on the server by a million miles and do my best to survive my missions but won't always make it to 3 CMs before becoming a smoking hole in the ground when the odds are even. The planes I've got I have to be very careful with or else I'll end up with none.

 

The problem here is when the LW stacking gets too high I just won't take the risk at all. I don't have the planes to spare in unfavorable circumstances so I'll stay on the ground - which exacerbates the problem by removing one more person from the VVS making it all the less appealing to someone who'd think like I do. 

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30 минут назад, Operatsiya_Ivy сказал:

I think there is no doubt that the subject in question is exploiting the game mechanics as much as he can.

 

The real question to discuss here is if exploiting should be allowed or even be encouraged in order to gain an advantage. In my opinion, searching for exploits to gain an advantage is at least unsportsmanlike and potentially hurting the fun for everyone involved in the game. 

 

That the TAW-Devs have to spent valuable free time to prevent a single individual from exploiting the game is showcasing the Problem quite well.

 

1. Take off... Land to the AF on the enemy side .... Take off again... Land on the enemy side... Take off again. Is it some kind of exploits? Really?

2. I didn't know that the rule about landing on the active enemy AF was created because of some person, who landed on it. For me it is not a problem at all. I will NOT start on the AF, that has an attack mark on it. It is an easy rule. I think it is a mistake to do not allow these actions at all.

 

You can do everything what you want: dive, climb, fly with the bombs, land, take off. Your opponent can do the same thing. Where is the problem?

 

 

4 часа назад, Banzaii сказал:

What did he do for those 12 minutes then?

Shoot AAA on deck?

Thats my bet

 

 

You know, sometime you just wait your mates to get some cover. I do not understand, why are you so upset.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, AirshowDisaster said:

One thing is for sure: The LW/VVS ratios for this TAW seem much worse than the one we just had prior.

 

Currently approx 44 vs 16. What's the point of even taking off? When it gets like this there are zero gaps in LW cover. As soon as you attack a defense point or some tanks you will instantly attract 5 BF109s with more coming. Even is you bring I-16s for cover you will be outnumbered and slaughtered. 

 

If you're flying VVS then it's no fun because you're flying against insurmountable odds. If you're flying LW then it's like the seagulls from finding nemo: "Mine, mine, mine!"

 

Who's enjoying themselves here?

I hate to say it but you are right about what's going on here . 

Mine mine , mine , Its a shame . Lol ...but true . 

Would bring in Ai help with the game balance. . If at all possible . 

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4 hours ago, Trefftz_Plane said:

 

Maybe he took a yuuuuuuggggggggggggge dump.  Would that be okay to do?

 

Use auto-level.  

 

It's amazing to me that xJammer hasn't been permanently banned from this server.   

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1 минуту назад, BraveSirRobin сказал:

 

 

Use auto-level.  

 

It's amazing to me that xJammer hasn't been permanently banned from this server.   

 

Only because he has more ideas as you have? Okey, i see.

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Now i get that the person in question has a certain history but i think it is over the top to make such a big fuzz about it as long as he only landed on an unused airfield. After all, if spotted, he is in a very bad spot.

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topic change from xjammer, please.
I think hes had his attention hit for now...

 

Thanks

Stix

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2 минуты назад, Operatsiya_Ivy сказал:

Now i get that the person in question has a certain history but i think it is over the top to make such a big fuzz about it as long as he only landed on an unused airfield. After all, if spotted, he is in a very bad spot.

 

Exactly, everyone can do it, so, everyone welcome. To be honest, I will not. The chance to damage a plane is too big (with the bombs, of course)

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20 minutes ago, II./JG77_Con said:

I hate to say it but you are right about what's going on here . 

Mine mine , mine , Its a shame . Lol ...but true . 

Would bring in Ai help with the game balance. . If at all possible . 

It doesn't matter how good a pilot you are - if you're the only target for three people you will lose.

 

If you're not a great pilot (like me!) then you will also lose - really really fast.

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8 minutes ago, AirshowDisaster said:

It doesn't matter how good a pilot you are - if you're the only target for three people you will lose.

 

If you're not a great pilot (like me!) then you will also lose - really really fast.

 

I will run away if that's case. No point engaging with odd not in my favor. I guessing you are flying solo....

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4 часа назад, StG77_Kondor сказал:

TAW is one of the few things the MP community has done right. 

Xjammer and his alt accounts have broken other servers just for the sake of breaking them. He enjoys the attention above all else - so much so he even buys extra copies of the game just to have alt accounts to defend himself. He continues to show that he will always try to find any exploit he can to break the game for the community. 

You don't purposefully land at a neutral field for over 10 minutes to "use the restroom" - especially not with his history. What is to stop someone like him from using what clearly are alt accounts to monitor the other team? One could easily figure out what they are doing and land at a 'neutral' base to let the enemy move elsewhere before taking back off and hitting the now defenseless target. 

At the peril of being spanked by mods I'm just going to say it. The guy is a cancer and is precisely the kind of person that deserves to be banned from TAW. 

 

I am so disappointed.

 

One question. Is it allowed to bomb from 7..8k? You know, it is difficult to find some red plane there... So, the target is, as you said, defenseless.

 

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Krauz said:

 

I am so disappointed.

 

One question. Is it allowed to bomb from 7..8k? You know, it is difficult to find some red plane there... So, the target is, as you said, defenseless.

 

 

 

 


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Guys, just relax. This is not worth derailing the topic into the same old mess we know;) Okay, I agree Jammer's actions last TAW were very questionable from an ethical and gameplay point of view, but in the end it helped us improve TAW a tiny little bit. Accusing someone of cheating isn't nice, especially without proof. In the end there will be always someone trying to exploit, it's unavoidable. Jammer at least openly communicates with us, he is on our TS, everyone can reach him. These changes needed to be done anyway. This is really a minor problem compared to a 40:1 (:D) team balance. 

 

Right now? All i see is determination to take out vital red targets in a way that can be easily countered when the other team is organised. This is nothing on the level we had last campaign and I believe Jammer knows he pushed the limits then.

 

And trust me, the banhammer glows strong in the darkness, I'm sure it will be used when needed, but let's not go crazy:) TAW has balance issues and this is the main problem right now, let's work as a community to change this. This is one of the few things my boy Kathon (<3) can't do, this is in your hands!

 

Embrace the I-16 coffin, learn to love the brick P-40 and take your blue only squadron for a wild ride. Oh I promise you it will be painful, but I can also promise you that you emerge stronger than ever from this experience. And in moments of doubt, when you cry, your nails are bleeding and you smash your joystick into the wall, you can always put some chill music, ride the Peshka and get 3 kills just flying straight and laughing at these funny MG FF hits as comfort for all the pain you had to suffer (or you will loose both your engines to some spraying weirdo lol, but at this point you will be used to dying anyway so no biggie). 

 

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 @=L/R=Maurox you shouldn't have to spend valuable time going through code over and dealing with this guy.  If it can be verified via the server logs with what he did, get rid of him.  Once again, server admins need to take leadership and get rid of him, he uses contacting the server admins like coconut and here to prevent himself from getting banned.  Using that whole human aspect when you know the guy. 

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By no means I think this is good behaviour, but having some experience in game dev I'm 100% there will be someone who will do this sooner or later. If we treat TAW as a product, we need to make it fool proof. The stuff he pulls off now is nothing compared to last campaign and he didn't get banned then. Again, this is my personal opinion and it is very possible that someone has less tolerance for this:) 

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=LG=Kathon

 

2x20mm cannons are not allowed for Mc202. Is it correct for the map No2?

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Hi all,

 

Double accounts are indeed prohibited, same with excesive rudeness and public cheating accusations and I saw all of that in this topic, again. What I see happening here is someone gaming the rules of a server therefore its up to server adminitration to take actions.  Pms sent and rules applied.

 

Haash

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11 hours ago, AirshowDisaster said:

 

The problem here is when the LW stacking gets too high I just won't take the risk at all. I don't have the planes to spare in unfavorable circumstances so I'll stay on the ground - which exacerbates the problem by removing one more person from the VVS making it all the less appealing to someone who'd think like I do. 

 

US evening -  I've flown LW maybe one mission in years, not even a full campaign.  I see a constant 30 v 5-7 so I just dont play any more unless I'm asked to be cannon fodder for a friend while he bombs.  I'll have to look again, but I'm not so sure its squads doing this, as it seems its primarily individuals with no affiliation in LW (as you would expect). 

 

I dont hope for change anymore, so I just go Play WoL or KOTA sadly.

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everything is allowed in love and war

stop whining for xjammer or chima and just fly, fight, have fun, it's all in the game

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