Tactical Air War

[Cpt_Siddy 988]

1 hour ago, Haza said:

 

 

I'm guessing with your 25 deaths, you aren't one of those VVS guys resting easy.

It looks like you are single- handedly supplying the entire VVS war machine!

 

Regards

 

 

Stop being salty that you died to back gunners m8t 

[=FSB=HandyNasty 140]

23 hours ago, =19FAB=AlterEgo said:

Hello,

 

Does anyone know the reason of the 0.000 dmg ? Are there rubber bullets in IL-2 ?
http://taw-server.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=37413&name==19FAB=AlterEgo

 

Thanks in advance,

AlterEgo

 

As far as I can see,  the flight logs show much more hits  - i think that it shows all hits. If I understand correctly,  log files now count each and every bullet hit , whereas before it would add all hits within small timeframe (let's say 0.1 sec) and then display that amount of damage. 

 

In my view, the 0.000 damage just means that a mg bullet hit but that it hit a non-critical and non-vital part, not even reducing life from a wing (for example ,a hit in fuselage that then stops at a armor plate)

 

 

[ACG_ItsDrifter 442]

9 hours ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

 

Or just bite the proverbial bullet and fly bombers and attackers. 

 

Whenever there is only SCG and other fighter only pilots on the server, the VVS can rest easy as no soviet targets will be hit.

 

You won't be resting easy knowing you'll most likely get shot down 😁

[SCG_Schneemann 72]

10 hours ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

Whenever there is only SCG and other fighter only pilots on the server, the VVS can rest easy as no soviet targets will be hit.

Hehehe... keep on believing that. That's the spirit...

[DerSheriff 1071]

3 hours ago, =LG=Kathon said:

 

 

There is a little magic trick  change pilot.php to pilot_all.php in the URL in your web browser.

 

AND now you tell us 😄

So much hours wasted searching through clips 😭

Edited October 1, 2018 by DerSheriff

[Cpt_Siddy 988]

2 hours ago, SCG_DR1FT3R said:

 

You won't be resting easy knowing you'll most likely get shot down 😁

 

Dunno, never saw you covering depots

[ACG_ItsDrifter 442]

36 minutes ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

 

Dunno, never saw you covering depots

 

You sure as hell saw us covering those tanks that you've attempted to bomb and cover for your il2s 😁

 

And I'm glad you think that SCG dousnt bomb. Will be better for us. When we bomb targets knowing you won't bother to cap 🤣

[SCG_Schneemann 72]

Especially since we took 25% off one last night... Oops! No we didn't... no we did not... shouldn't have said that... shouldn't have said that...

[7.GShAP/Silas 452]

Schneemann is one of the only SCG guys who flies 110s/88s.  The rest have been surgically grafted into 109s and can be safely avoided.

Edited October 1, 2018 by 7.GShAP/Silas

[Cpt_Siddy 988]

27 minutes ago, SCG_DR1FT3R said:

 

 

And I'm glad you think that SCG dousnt bomb. Will be better for us. When we bomb targets knowing you won't bother to cap 🤣

 

 

I am sure everyone is holding their breath in anticipation for you to mount bombs... 

[StG77_Kondor 325]

 

17 hours ago, SCG_Sinerox said:

Their should be a different persona for fighter and bomber pilots, so if I choose to fly bombers to resupply or bomb I shouldn't be punished for dying in it and losing my fighter pilots life. It'd create more incentive to fly bombers as well.

You would bring the infamous Drinkins attitude straight outta WoL and into TAW. Basically bombers would be there to die, for the benefit of fighter pilots' advancement.

 

SCG is the #1 LW fighter squad. And with the amount of really good LW squads, that's not easy. No shame in being the best in 'only' one category. For all we know you guys are escorting the guys doing the damage.

[Cpt_Siddy 988]

13 minutes ago, StG77_Kondor said:

 

 

 

SCG is the #1 LW fighter squad. And with the amount of really good LW squads, that's not easy. No shame in being the best in 'only' one category. For all we know you guys are escorting the guys doing the damage.

 

 

 

 

I am kind of sad that Sheriff and his herd don't play so often anymore. Whatever i might think if the man, his squad has talents at fighters, bombers and attackers.  

 

 

Edited October 1, 2018 by Cpt_Siddy

[ACG_ItsDrifter 442]

1 hour ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

 

 

I am sure everyone is holding their breath in anticipation for you to mount bombs... 

 

 

Ah, i love how you know nothing of us 😎🙈

 

You should probably check the squads stats first before making assumptions  

Edited October 1, 2018 by SCG_DR1FT3R

[Riksen 1292]

2 hours ago, 7.GShAP/Silas said:

Schneemann is one of the only SCG guys who flies 110s/88s.  The rest have been surgically grafted into 109s and can be safely avoided.

 

Tell that to 244 aircrafts we shot down. They avoided us all right lol

[7.GShAP/Silas 452]

8 minutes ago, SCG_Riksen said:

 

Tell that to 244 aircrafts we shot down. They avoided us all right lol

 

 

I like you Riksen, and Fenris.  But Drifter and Sinerox are a bit annoying and talk a lot of trash, so I had to get a dig in.  Anyway, if you're willing to fly out of your way to deserted areas, you can avoid most CAP.  People want bang for their buck so their paths are usually predictable. 

Edited October 1, 2018 by 7.GShAP/Silas

[ACG_Smokejumper 167]

20 hours ago, Pedersen said:

 

I certainly would not like to waste my time logging out to check a replay. Should everyone then too make dual accounts to check for paradrops and so forth? At what point is the enigma fully cracked?  

 

Hacking phones to find alarm times so you can play with the pesky enemy is in bed!

[SCG_Schneemann 72]

Yeah, my mom told me a looonggg time ago not to even think about fighter school... I suck at it 😄

 

[ACG_ItsDrifter 442]

35 minutes ago, 7.GShAP/Silas said:

 

 

I like you Riksen, and Fenris.  But Drifter and Sinerox are a bit annoying and talk a lot of trash, so I had to get a dig in.  Anyway, if you're willing to fly out of your way to deserted areas, you can avoid most CAP.  People want bang for their buck so their paths are usually predictable. 

 

Just responding to Cpt Siddy, If im annoying, than CPT siddy is 10x worse

[ACG_Smokejumper 167]

10 hours ago, Haza said:

 

I play this game as a PC flight sim so I have no real interest in the historical outcome of the overall conflict, as lets face it, I think we all know what the outcome was.  However, I wouldn't stop buying IL2 Battle Of  Vietnam knowing that the Americans and Allies lost, but I would buy it to have that PC sim experience. 

 

Therefore, I'm not that stupid to talk about the overall outcome of the conflict, however, whilst playing this sim, I do try and understand the limitations that perhaps these aviators had back then, as far as is practicable in a PC game.  That said, there are certain rules that are in place to try and prevent players from cheating or gimping as you put it, yet when we believe somebody is cheating there is a big up roar and we have video evidence because they are gaining an unfair advantage. 

 

Therefore, my point regarding recording was to merely point out that although both sides can do it, there is a way of basically having the pin point accuracy that perhaps was not available back in the day, as carpet bombing was usually the way to destroy a target, where as here, potentially 3/4 guys can take out a whole objective knowing what the trigger points are in a large complex. 

 

Now you could call this cheating, but I guess because everybody can do it, it is acceptable.  However,  I would like to see the end of in game chat, tech chat, auto-level and anything that gives players an advantage in an PC aircraft.  I'm guessing that there are some players who do not even know where half the levers are for the various controls or what the various instruments mean and totally depend just on tech chat to tell them.   Therefore, I believe that it is unfortunate that there are a number of systems in the game that can be abused or can not be fully appreciated, but we can all play how we want to.  I guess as you put it, it comes come down to the types of individuals who play this PC game and what they want from it. 

 

Currently, I believe that TAW is one of the few servers, if not the best, that is doing a great job of giving us that true PC sim WW2 A2A/A2G aircraft experiences and my suggestion was only trying to add to this experience and pointing out something that can/could be abused and perhaps could be addressed by perhaps being able to remove the trigger markers from objectives to conceal that target. 

 

However, at the end of the day, everybody should be able to play this sim in the server of their choice and follow the server rules etc and my observation was just an observation.  That said, I'm not sure how the ACG server will be any different!?

 

 

Regards

 

Haza

 

 

A2A: Air-To-Air

A2G: Air-To-Ground

 

 

 

 

Good post. I prefer to turn of technochat. I enjoy using the cockpit gauges.

 

I'd not thought of the in game filming to check targets. I like it. Must be the (American) Football fan in me that loves me an instant replay.   

Honestly, too much effort. I still have over 700 gig of cliffs footage i don't know how to edit.

Edited October 1, 2018 by 7./JG26_Smokejumper

[DerSheriff 1071]

3 hours ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

 

 

 

 

I am kind of sad that Sheriff and his herd don't play so often anymore. Whatever i might think if the man, his squad has talents at fighters, bombers and attackers.  

 

 

uhhh a praise from siddy, I guess I print it and put it on the fridge.

[ACG_Smokejumper 167]

13 minutes ago, DerSheriff said:

uhhh a praise from siddy, I guess I print it and put it on the fridge.

 

 

Siddy is my favorite grumpy S.O.B.

 

I've gotten some crash course Soviet History lessons in Ts. Fun chats.   

 

Us fellow jerks need to stick together eh Sid bro?.

Edited October 1, 2018 by 7./JG26_Smokejumper

[Norz 90]

10 hours ago, SCG_Riksen said:

 

Tell that to 244 aircrafts we shot down. They avoided us all right lol

 

Just LOL.

 

Just one question...Is it really so hard? But nevermind...We all know the answer.

[Haza 720]

Just now, Norz said:

 

Just LOL.

 

Just one question...Is it really so hard? But nevermind...We all know the answer.

 

Norz,

 

I'm assuming that you like it hard!? But nevermind...We all know the answer!

[Norz 90]

Just now, Haza said:

 

Norz,

 

I'm assuming that you like it hard!? But nevermind...We all know the answer!

 

Haza,

 

I suppose that you tried to play with 109e7..f4 a long time ago. But as usually...you can try it anytime.

[Haza 720]

Just now, Norz said:

 

Haza,

 

I suppose that you tried to play with 109e7..f4 a long time ago. But as usually...you can try it anytime.

 

Norz,

 

No idea what you are going on about!

However, your attempt at humour or lack of it is wasted here, so please move along!

 

I'm guessing as well that by using "but as usually" perhaps implies that English is not your first language so perhaps I'm missing the point as perhaps you can't express yourself correctly and I miss interpreted your comments.

 

Therefore lets stop with the childish comments and play nicely together!

 

Regards as ever!

 

PS I'm not in love with you!  (one for the Yanks)

Edited October 2, 2018 by Haza

[Norz 90]

43 minutes ago, Haza said:

 

Norz,

 

No idea what you are going on about!

However, your attempt at humour or lack of it is wasted here, so please move along!

 

 

 

Sorry... Now i see. You have used it recently... OK, I can give you a hint. Try to use it with with your eyes open.

 

P.S: About the comments. Seems that you are the only person I've seen lately who says (or considers) that 109F4 on the MAP N2 is exactly the right option. It is definitely something that I would describe as "childish behaviour"

 

P.S.2. Do not hesitate to explain what is wrong with my text (you can try to explain it to me in "native" russian for sure). I will appreciate it.

 

Но что то мне подсказывает, что даже наличие гугл переводчика не поможет тебе, потому как это как раз тот случай, когда любые технические средства пасуют. Тут я еще должен написать "с уважением, пиши еще", но, наверно не в этот раз. Если у тебя возникнет желание попрактиковать свой (твой) русский, дружное русское комьюнити дружно попинает тебя в русской ветке. Я думаю, это будет тебе отличным мотиватором и дальше изучать русский язык. Ой, что это я? Ты же даже русский алфавит то и не знаешь..верно?

 

Edited October 2, 2018 by Norz

[Haza 720]

Just now, Norz said:

 

Sorry... Now i see. You have used it recently... OK, I can give you a hint. Try to use it with the opened eyes.

 

 

Norz,

 

I'm less worried about my fighter abilities than I am about my bombing abilities from 6.5 K and missing everything.  However, I now understand what you are trying to say with your broken English sentence structure.  I guess my computer gaming skills are not as good as others and perhaps if the film (movie for the yanks) Pixels becomes a reality we can all depend on you to save us!! LM**O.  That said, my current Air Kills streak is the same as yours (ONLY 1), so I guess your PC sim computer skills like your humour is rather lacking and the World is doomed. 

 

Regards

 

Haza

 

In addition, I notice you have 13 deaths and have lost 57 aircraft, whereas I have 4 deaths and lost 8 aircraft.  I think stats are great!  

 

PS  Regarding your PPS , I had no interest in learning Russian owing to the fact that French, German and Latin were taught at my school.  Russian wasn't deemed to be an important language.  In addition, once again, I've no idea what you are on about regarding the F-4.

 

PPS.  Sorry I forgot to mention that I did learn how to ask for a belt buckle in Russian.  During the 80s, as a kid, we use to drive through East Germany to West Berlin and the Russian guards at Check points Alpha and Bravo would exchange buckles and medals for money and cigarettes.  It was a very difficult language to learn, so well done with your English and stop taking it so personally, as that is the fun of humour!  

 

Regards

 

No love letters though please!

Edited October 2, 2018 by Haza

[Norz 90]

41 minutes ago, Haza said:

Regards

..

Regards

 

 

A lot of kind words but you do not mind it.

 

Just skip it.

 

P.S: If you do not worry about your fighter abilities than i do not understand your point at all.

 

Some person said...2xx kills. I asked..is it difficult? The answer is NO. It is easy. Everyone who played AXIS side can confirm it. (I can confirm it also).

 

So, what is your point for all your posts?

41 minutes ago, Haza said:

In addition, I notice you have 13 deaths and have lost 57 aircraft, whereas I have 4 deaths and lost 8 aircraft.  I think stats are great!  

 

 

You are 100% right. I am not satisfied how it is going this round. There are a lot of explanations for that..But i am not sure that you are interested... Right?

 

You said: your real skills are much better ...I suppose that you can build a linear function to predict your losses by the 182 ground kills/35 air kills. If you have here any problem to calculate it, do not hesitate to ask help.

 

41 minutes ago, Haza said:

  In addition, once again, I've no idea what you are on about regarding the F-4.

 

It is exactly about your comment last week when you was shot down and it was not easy for you just to click "Start" again. Instead you wrote some "shit" in the chat.

Edited October 2, 2018 by Norz

[Riksen 1292]

Might be easier to do with LW than the  VVS, I agree, but it is by no means Easy as you say. That is just a lame excuse in attempt to disregard someone else's efforts and skill. Some of you are trying to make a point that you have to strap a bomb to your aircraft to be usefull but forget that attrition is also a winning condition. If I were to fly a bomber, I would rather have an effective fighter squadron escort me than some random that dies every 1-2 kills. We just stick to what we do best to help the campaign or perhaps you think having more deaths than GK/AK is better just because you are carrying a bomb? You are also forgetting the most important thing ... to have fun. What if someone does not enjoy flying bombers or multirole in the campaign? What if enjoys just flying fighters even if he sucks at it and is not good at any of the aforementioned things? Well, as long as he is having fun, I'm ok with that because in the end, this is just a game.

[Haza 720]

Just now, Norz said:

 

A lot of kind words but you do not mind it.

 

Just skip it.

 

P.S: It you do not worry about your fighter abilities than i do not undestand your point at all.

 

Some person said...2xx kills. I asked..it is difficult? The answer is NO. It is easy. Everyone who played AXIS side can confirm it. (I can confirm it also).

 

So, what is your point for all your posts?

 

You are 100% right. I am not satisfied how it is going this round. There are a lot of explanations for that..But i am not sure that you are interested... Right?

 

It is exactly about your comment last week when you was shot down and it was not easy for you just to click "Start" again. Instead you wrote some "shit" in the chat.

 

Norz,

 

Thank you for taking the time to write your thoughts and your explanation.

 

I'm always interested to know and understand what players do and how to get better at playing this game, so please do not think that I'm not interested, as it is only a game.  Regarding your reference to my comments of "sh*t", this was in response to being Pk'd by a Pe-2 AI gunner, even though I took extra armour, I still believe that the AI gunners are too accurate.  I will take my hat off to being shot down by a real player, but being PK'd by an AI gunner is very frustrating and it is a pity that we can't have real players allowed in other player's aircraft within the TAW server, as that would be fun, although it would perhaps limit the number of player pilots in the server.  

 

As you have noticed it was an F-4, if you cared to take the time, you would see that the following death, also in an F-4, was by another Pe-2 bombing the airfield.  Even though I was once again killed having just re-spawned, no comments were raised in chat as for me it was a good kill.   The game is more than just fighters as it requires both bombers and fighters to win objectives, therefore, my focus is about keeping my virtual life and saving aircraft whilst doing the objectives. One man's sh*t is another man's fertilizer, so perhaps from my comments, things may change, so my virtual sacrifice will not have been in vain

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

[Norz 90]

4 hours ago, SCG_Riksen said:

Might be easier to do with LW than the  VVS, I agree, but it is by no means Easy as you say.

 

OK, now i am ready to hear it...why is it not easy? My experience on TAW and WOL (usual score there was about 500 kills pro month) says that if you are interested in air kills you will get it easily. (For VVS it is also true but only after the MAP No4). 

Edited October 2, 2018 by Norz

[=FEW=N3cRoo 104]

What is this unecessary public mudslinging about? 

We had an insult and now it's dickmeassuring, get a room you two, this is getting embarrasing.

[Norz 90]

 

20 minutes ago, Haza said:

The game is more than just fighters as it requires both bombers and fighters to win objectives, therefore, my focus is about keeping my virtual life and saving aircraft whilst doing the objectives. One man's sh*t is another man's fertilizer, so perhaps from my comments, things may change, so my virtual sacrifice will not have been in vain

 

It is just perfect all what you said.

 

But.

 

This round is exactly the same for a planeset as it was before. Everyone knows how it was ended last time. ( I played AXIS side last round).

 

The only one possibility to change it (for red side) for 4 first maps was to play different way that you prefer.

 

Unfortunately it did a wrong result anyway...  I hope that =LG= team will allow a i16 with the 20mm cannons for the map No1 and will remove 109F4 for the map No2. 

 

Edited October 2, 2018 by Norz

[Psyrion 414]

What N3croo said. Stop this shit please. Thanks.

[=LG=Flogger 14]

6 hours ago, Norz said:

Unfortunately it did a wrong result anyway...  I hope that =LG= team will allow a i16 with the 20mm cannons for the map No1 and will remove 109F4 for the map No2. 

 

 

Dear Norz,

 

We talked about that and i think this changes will be in the next edition of TAW.

 

But, its not official

 

High five! 

[ACG_ItsDrifter 442]

46 minutes ago, =LG=Flogger said:

 

Dear Norz,

 

We talked about that and i think this changes will be in the next edition of TAW.

 

But, its not official

 

High five! 

 

I agree, the Russians have absolutely no advantage in the beginning, no doubt the 20mms won't change much, but it will be one more thing that the Russians get to level out the playing field somewhat.

[=EXPEND=13SchwarzeHand 734]

7 hours ago, =FEW=N3croo said:

What is this unecessary public mudslinging about? 

We had an insult and now it's dickmeassuring, get a room you two, this is getting embarrasing.

 

I think it’s the most entertaining thing to happen here in a long while.

 

please keep going!

[LeLv76_Erkki 185]

40 minutes ago, SCG_DR1FT3R said:

 

I agree, the Russians have absolutely no advantage in the beginning, no doubt the 20mms won't change much, but it will be one more thing that the Russians get to level out the playing field somewhat.

 

No advantage to reds only in fighters. Also if F-4 gets removed then MiG becomes fastest and best fighter. Perfect balance is impossible.

 

LW bombers otoh are mostly just target practice through the war, while the same isnt exactly true for Pe-2. Especially in first maps where Macchi has light armament and Emil is barely faster than Peshka.

 

Not complaining, just remember the balance(and whether that is even wanted) isnt limited to fighters.

[ACG_Smokejumper 167]

2 hours ago, LeLv76_Erkki said:

 

MiG becomes fastest and best fighter.

 

 

Pfffft. Fastest maybe but clearly the P-40 is best fighter.  😀

[=989ShAP=AlterEgo 8]

On 9/30/2018 at 8:28 PM, =LG=Coldman said:

I think it is connected to last patch. Devs told that they tuned dmg detection. Before patch I had some situation when I was sure I saw I hit plane with 7.7mm I saw spark and debris but on taw log there was no dmg done. Maybe now it's calculated as 0 damage.

 

Thanks for replying Coldman. I think this is going the wrong way. There is no way 7.7mm would not do any dmg to a flying plane. I have recently attacked with my wing man (2 Migs with 20mm guns) a Heinkel 4-5 times. Also a lot of 0.000 dmg. I don't think this is normal any more and i believe there is something wrong with the game dmg counting or dmg registration system. Is this a client-server issue? no idea but definitely something somewhere wrong.