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15 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Looks like nobody is able to connect to the server at the moment:(

  It's strange because server is running normally. I will check it.

I restarted the server

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Ugh, i hate to complain so soon......

 

I have seen 2 blue airplanes disco right in front of me this morning, i can name names if need be.

 

and, 3-4 109s took turns to attack me, low and slow at my base of lotoshino, the russian flak does nothing, then i take a peshka, and get one shotted crossing the lines by german flak....? what???

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8 minutes ago, SYN_Repent said:

Ugh, i hate to complain so soon......

 

I have seen 2 blue airplanes disco right in front of me this morning, i can name names if need be.

 

and, 3-4 109s took turns to attack me, low and slow at my base of lotoshino, the russian flak does nothing, then i take a peshka, and get one shotted crossing the lines by german flak....? what???

 

It does feel like theres either more of flak or its skill has been raised. Heavy flak, dunno about light.

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4 hours ago, LLv24_StableAce said:

Cant join server, no one can apparently, mission still rolling and they cap our field automatically with tanks as theres no defence......

4 hours ago, =LG=Kathon said:

  It's strange because server is running normally. I will check it.

 

Yesterday few guys like me was identified like banned at the moment of connection (red icon beside my callsign), and so immediatly kicked. But after several try (4 / 5 for me), it was ok... May be a little bug.

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2 hours ago, Otto_bann said:

Yesterday few guys like me was identified like banned at the moment of connection (red icon beside my callsign), and so immediatly kicked. But after several try (4 / 5 for me), it was ok... May be a little bug.

No it is not a bug. You guys ask a lot of questions about gameplay. All answers can be found in manual.

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1 hour ago, F/JG300_Faucon said:

Holy **** 

 

Question: What does CM NA mean?

 

CM NA = Combat Mission Not Available. Afaik that's what you get in the log when you have maxed your number of CMs and have no more plane slots to fill.

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Yes faucon, if u reached status of CM NA , next aircraft you lose was automatically resupply and CM starts to count.

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having a lot of issues with sorties not recording properly or potentially (even worse) hits simply not actually doing anything.

 

just had an extended running battle with 2 09s at lotoshino where I shot and hit both of them on multiple occasions with the I16. 

 

yet.. 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=8871&name==IL2AU=chappyj

 

edit: now that i think of it...despite the multiple hits not once did they show actual damage. and i layed into one of them quite extensively.

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4 minutes ago, =IL2AU=chappyj said:

having a lot of issues with sorties not recording properly or potentially (even worse) hits simply not actually doing anything.

 

just had an extended running battle with 2 09s at lotoshino where I shot and hit both of them on multiple occasions with the I16. 

 

yet.. 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=8871&name==IL2AU=chappyj

This is strange. Did you smoke them or severely damage? Maybe there is no info in log files when hits didn't damage enemy aircraft. Or something was changed in the log files by the devs and script doesn't count some hits now.

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Same to me, on 2 sorties I hit a Pe-2 and made it smoke and leak fuel each time(letting it go because the rear gunner is pure murder) and the logs had nothing.

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4 minutes ago, =LG=Kathon said:

This is strange. Did you smoke them or severely damage? Maybe there is no info in log files when hits didn't damage enemy aircraft. Or something was changed in the log files by the devs and script doesn't count some hits now.

 

Happened to me also. 2 air kills, absolutely nothing on the log: http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=5505&name=F/JG300_Faucon

 

I disco/reconnected on the server and it worked on the following flight. 

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How can reds lose planes, especially considering the planeset, and pilots so quickly? Do they have more players now and extra losses are to flak or what?

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4 minutes ago, LeLv76_Erkki said:

How can reds lose planes, especially considering the planeset, and pilots so quickly? Do they have more players now and extra losses are to flak or what?

 

Of the top 16 pilots (based on air kills), all but 3 are German. These 13 German pilots have 274 Russian air kills, all by themselves. (In comparison, the top 13 Russian pilots have 118 German air kills.... almost a 3:1 ratio.) So, yes; Red team is getting shot down more often.

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Dumb question time so forgive me but I cant see any reason in manual (but have probably missed it)

 

Give or take, the reds and blues see to match pretty evenly in terms of damage to airfields and depots - so how come the blues have more of everything in the reserved totals, for example 1600 aircraft versus the 1300 for the reds?

 

I know there is an answer - I just don't know it. 

 

Thanks

 

BOO

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I really want to try this server out some more, but I really dislike how unbalanced it is at times. Such as right now there are 37 blue pilots and 16 red logged on.

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20 minutes ago, sealgaire said:

I really want to try this server out some more, but I really dislike how unbalanced it is at times. Such as right now there are 37 blue pilots and 16 red logged on.

Well join anyhow and close the gap..

 

I wouldn't be too put off with 2 to 1 ratios. Some will be bombers, some will be escorting bombers, some will be ga, some will be flying resupply and some won't have a clue what the hell is going on. 

 

As long as you don't go in with high expectations of coming out on top by hanging about, lone wolfing over a hot spot there is much to do which ever situation your side finds itself in. 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, sealgaire said:

I really want to try this server out some more, but I really dislike how unbalanced it is at times. Such as right now there are 37 blue pilots and 16 red logged on.

 

No matter what server you visit, Allies will be outnumbered 90% of the time.  It's an old story that doesn't change and goes all the way back to the heydays of IL-2 '46.  If you fly Red, you just kind of have to roll with it and fly better. Get in with a good group and coordinate attacking and defending to counter the numbers. 

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54 minutes ago, BOO said:

Give or take, the reds and blues see to match pretty evenly in terms of damage to airfields and depots - so how come the blues have more of everything in the reserved totals, for example 1600 aircraft versus the 1300 for the reds?

Because this is an axis offensive map. Later there will be allied offensive maps, and stalemate maps where numbers are even.

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and this campaign is way better than the last one.

40 minutes ago, sealgaire said:

I really want to try this server out some more, but I really dislike how unbalanced it is at times. Such as right now there are 37 blue pilots and 16 red logged on.


2.x:1 is not a bad balanced compared to last campaign.

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3 minutes ago, DerSheriff said:

and this campaign is way better than the last one.


2.x:1 is not a bad balanced compared to last campaign.

 

True, but it does seem that Red is a bit gun shy about risking their plane set.  I was feeling lousy yesterday so I didn't fly, but I did check the TAW map occasionally.  I saw a few times when a mass attack - even if it cost some players their plane set, could have totally changed Red's current position, but nobody did.  Sorry for being an "easy chair general" about this.  Call me when Map #2 starts...

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19 minutes ago, 15th_JonRedcorn said:

If I had access to a p40 off the bat I'd jump to red right now.

 

Exactly. Reds should have at least advantage in plane number since almost every single campaign LW has higher numbers and is full of stacking squadrons ...

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Just now, SCG_Riksen said:

 

Exactly. Reds should have at least advantage in plane number since almost every single campaign LW has higher numbers and is full of stacking squadrons ...

It's a little ridiculous they are restricted to a i16... It's vastly outmatched. Not only that but people just don't want to fly the thing.

 

Also, last night, I was doing a bomb run in a 110, me and a 111 dove on the same target in a head on, I tried to go under him, had a 500lb bomb go right through my windshield and detonate on impact, I wasn't even mad I was dying laughing. The guy I was flying with also thought it was quite hilarious, I really wish I was recording that. I was in VR too so it was completely nuts, probably the funniest thing I've encountered in Il2.

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Making useful CMs in the I-16 is certainly difficult, the P-40 is really the plane to use on map#1 since its bloody fast and the E-7 chokes at altitude aswell and the MC-202 can only kill planes by choking them with too many meatballs...

I've used (fighter) IL-2s and Pe-2s typically in the past in order to get away from the I-16s, however a mixed group of P-40s and I-16 is quite viable. 

 

I've ran into a couple of cheeky breekys that flew the P-40 highalt but the I16s even higher to use as a bait. Making solo or low number flights with I-16 is really not that viable

 

I'd also like to see an earlier access to the LaGG-3

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Funniest moment in taw so far for me was seeing sinerox fly Russian for 30 minutes, 

Get schooled in a dogfight and then say 

'Wow the 109 has a lot of leeway against the i16 doesn't it ' 

Only just noticed this now ?? Lol 😂

4 hours ago, Mobile_BBQ said:

 

True, but it does seem that Red is a bit gun shy about risking their plane set.  I was feeling lousy yesterday so I didn't fly, but I did check the TAW map occasionally.  I saw a few times when a mass attack - even if it cost some players their plane set, could have totally changed Red's current position, but nobody did.  Sorry for being an "easy chair general" about this.  Call me when Map #2 starts...

i disagree. 

Map one for me is when no fcks are given . I'm already at a distinct disadvantage in aircraft as red, i'm generally outnumbered, its the start of the campaign and the axis should win the first map hands down unless they really clam it. So based on that i just go balls deep.

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31 minutes ago, =IL2AU=chappyj said:

 

i disagree. 

Map one for me is when no fcks are given . I'm already at a distinct disadvantage in aircraft as red, i'm generally outnumbered, its the start of the campaign and the axis should win the first map hands down unless they really clam it. So based on that i just go balls deep.

 

And I have to disagree with you.  Axis was in process of, as you have said, "clamming it".  Their front line was stalled and a decisive full-power strike and follow-up pressure to 100% destroy Sychevka airfield could have left Allies holding 2 functional depots and 1 destroyed depot in a 'repair' state for a total of 3 once Ramene Depot was restored.  Instead Allies destroyed Sychevka depot 100% and perpetuated the stalemate, leaving attrition to be the deciding factor. 

 

I agree the plane set is a bit poor, but I assure you assuming - by players upset with plane options - from the first minute of the map that it was an automatic loss and should be handled as such, made it so. 

For fcks sake, myself and a handful of pilots using mostly I-16s, Pe-2s and IL-2s were able to stall the Axis in times where the numbers were 3 or even 4 to 1.  So, I still do stick by my stance that lack of good strategy is why Red has very little chance left of turning map #1 back to their favor.

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1 hour ago, Mobile_BBQ said:

 

And I have to disagree with you.  Axis was in process of, as you have said, "clamming it".  Their front line was stalled and a decisive full-power strike and follow-up pressure to 100% destroy Sychevka airfield could have left Allies holding 2 functional depots and 1 destroyed depot in a 'repair' state for a total of 3 once Ramene Depot was restored.  Instead Allies destroyed Sychevka depot 100% and perpetuated the stalemate, leaving attrition to be the deciding factor. 

 

I agree the plane set is a bit poor, but I assure you assuming - by players upset with plane options - from the first minute of the map that it was an automatic loss and should be handled as such, made it so. 

For fcks sake, myself and a handful of pilots using mostly I-16s, Pe-2s and IL-2s were able to stall the Axis in times where the numbers were 3 or even 4 to 1.  So, I still do stick by my stance that lack of good strategy is why Red has very little chance left of turning map #1 back to their favor.

You of course completely ignore the fact that on attrition alone they will win the first map and generally do 

You're talking about one day and one objective as if it would somehow turn the tide

I think you misunderstand my pov btw. When I say no fcks given I meant I don't care about losses so I just go for kills and objectives 

 

 Sorry buddy ur over thinking it 

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6 minutes ago, =IL2AU=chappyj said:

You of course completely ignore the fact that on attrition alone they will win the first map and generally do 

You're talking about one day and one objective as if it would somehow turn the tide . Sorry buddy ur over thinking it 

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I stand corrected. Apparently, a fatal outcome for Red is purpose-built into TAW map #1.  I'm going to assume that it can be extrapolated from that information that any map where Red doesn't have an on-par or better plane set or on-par or better supply numbers (a.k.a. almost all maps) that Axis victory is built in.  If that's the case, I guess I'll go back to servers that host single-match maps.  Good luck wasting your time just to lose the campaign, buddy. 

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Gents,

 

It's only a game!

Chill out and just enjoy another 7 odd maps of pushing and pulling.

 

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1 hour ago, Haza said:

Gents,

 

It's only a game!

 

 

An unbalanced one where there is little incentive to fly as red. Give me at least extra planes as a "Thank you for being your target" lol

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3 minutes ago, Haza said:

Gents,

 

It's only a game!

Chill out and just enjoy another 7 odd maps of pushing and pulling.

 

 

Unless you’re flying VVS.  Then it’s 7 more maps of crashing and burning.  I logged into TAW a few times when I coulbn’t get into WoL.  I left as soon as I saw how stacked it was.

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9 hours ago, [TWB]Sketch said:

 

Of the top 16 pilots (based on air kills), all but 3 are German. These 13 German pilots have 274 Russian air kills, all by themselves. (In comparison, the top 13 Russian pilots have 118 German air kills.... almost a 3:1 ratio.) So, yes; Red team is getting shot down more often.

 

I was mostly thinking about how survivable Il-2 and especially Pe-2 is in this planeset(I wouldnt be surprised if Pe-2 has K/D above 1). But they must be losing horrific numbers of I-16...

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After lot of red victories, campaign suffers lot of "mods".

 

Like i read above... first map must win by blues, on last campaign they win first map in 24/48 h, current campaign we are on 5th day and , of course red will lost map, but we try to defend very well.  I think this edition have better quorums and i see more balanced.

 

Better is dont care about victory and only try to do your best.

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2 hours ago, LeLv76_Erkki said:

 

I was mostly thinking about how survivable Il-2 and especially Pe-2 is in this planeset(I wouldnt be surprised if Pe-2 has K/D above 1). But they must be losing horrific numbers of I-16...

 

It's probably the best map for Pe2. Very versatile and fast bomber, crazy dangerous powerful gunner. While we can barely catch them with E7, and need to shoot at quite close distance with MgFF. 

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