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Nobody was camping your AF, bro. SCG was covering StG77 and CorZero on a column attack 20 km west of Solodilovo on Map 196, and on defensive position attacks around all sides of Solodilovo on Map 197. You kept taking off from Solodilovo, putting a big fat dot on that AF, so they knew you were coming and they smoked you multiple times. You could have taken off from somewhere else and masked your intent. And you're trying to misrepresent that situation into a "You Alone vs the Luftwaffe" thing, when actually it was around 9-10 Blue vs 6-7 Red for the 40 minutes I was on, which coincided with the time you were on. You weren't the only Red flier; they smoked other fighters over those targets, but you were the only one repeatedly taking off from the closest AF. If SCG wasn't there and you shot us all down you'd be laughing at the Blue ground attackers who go on target without escort. I don't get the "SP immobile tank target practice" comment. I thought attacking ground targets was one path to victory.

 

Don't try to turn this into an Americans vs. European thing. The first three maps were a one-sided debacle, but Kuban and Moscow North maps have been very, very even numbers-wise in the US time zone. Reds won Kuban and are looking like they're gonna win this one too. Next campaign, StG77_Kondor and I are flying Red for the entire campaign, and we can't wait.....

What are you smoking, i was trough ~01am to ~05am of my tz, and it was 3 vs 19 at its worst. Three map rotation with numbers that were way under 1:2 ratio.

 

I am turning this in to timezone vs timezone thing. One timezone overwhelmingly favors one part of the team while other behave nicely. What reason we have to keep these timezones together, when one is actively pooping on the game experience of BOTH sides of the team on the other timezones?

 

I don't want to come back in to the map only to see that all the hard battles we won or lost over the EU/Asia TZ went to waste because some clans that have pathological fear of RPM and/or mixture leaver decided to nullify all the accomplishment by the virtue of having NO opposition?

If i was a EU tz axis pilot, i would be equally pissed, because all the game time I've putted in means nothing, after i go to bed, some magical tooth fairy squad has won the map for me. We are not 5y anymore, we don't want tooth fairy to do all our work for us... some of us actually enjoy the adversity and sense of accomplishment that comes from that.

 

As for SCG camping me, they totally did, i was defending tanks, and after two fly outs of various successes, they hovered over the nearest AF, WOL style. This alone is not what gets my goat, but the smack-talk after i made emergency landing because i was almost "airfield suppressed",also WOL style, is what makes me lose all respect for this squad. Stay classy.

 

"hurr durr, dont take off from the nearest airfield to elon-musk your intention"... yeah, with 2 targets that i got a snowballs chance in hell hope to defend with chance of ditching my plane.... takes a geniouos to figure out where to be with 19 v 3 players on map. When you and your friend Kondor will fly next map vvs, i am sure you will enjoy "against odds" scenarios. but with your post, you have wavered all your rights to complain about numbers.

 

PS:Was not name change, was a auto correct mistake. 

Edited by Cpt_Siddy
Fixed that for you. Do not change forum members names trying to mock them, last warning
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What are you smoking, i was trough ~01am to ~05am of my tz, and it was 3 vs 19 at its worst. Three map rotation with numbers that were way under 1:2 ratio. 

 

I am turning this in to timezone vs timezone thing. One timezone overwhelmingly favors one part of the team while other behave nicely. What reason we have to keep these timezones together, when one is actively pooping on the game experience of BOTH sides of the team on the other timezones? 

 

I don't want to come back in to the map only to see that all the hard battles we won or lost over the EU/Asia TZ went to waste because some clans that have pathological fear of RPM and/or mixture leaver decided to nullify all the accomplishment by the virtue of having NO opposition? 

If i was a EU tz axis pilot, i would be equally pissed, because all the game time I've putted in means nothing, after i go to bed, some magical tooth fairy squad has won the map for me. We are not 5y anymore, we don't want tooth fairy to do all our work for us... some of us actually enjoy the adversity and sense of accomplishment that comes from that.

 

As for SCG camping me, they totally did, i was defending tanks, and after two fly outs of various successes, they hovered over the nearest AF, WOL style. This alone is not what gets my goat, but the smack-talk after i made emergency landing because i was almost "airfield suppressed",also WOL style, is what makes me lose all respect in this squad. Stay classy. 

 

"hurr durr, dont take off from the nearest airfield to elon-musk your intention"... yeah, with 2 targets that i got a snowballs chance in hell hope to defend with chance of ditching my plane.... takes a geniouos to figure out where to be with 19 v 3 players on map. When you and your friend Kondor will fly next map vvs, i am sure you will enjoy "against odds" scenarios. but with your post, you have wavered all your rights to complain about numbers. 

Dude, you got 42+ hours flying time in this server and you're a buck private. Is that also due to a time zone conspiracy?

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Dude, you got 42+ hours flying time in this server and you're a buck private. Is that also due to a time zone conspiracy?

 

 

 

That doesn't really bite so hard coming from a guy who has turned flying on TAW into farming kills WoW style.

 

 

Anyway, I saw the smack talk and he's right, it was low class. 

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Admin does not want an explanation. I always fly fair play! And give me the ban for one year. It does not matter to me.

 

Look here! http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=689&name=RH_Killer

 

I cried?

I think RH Killer should be unbanned. TK happened in real life as well and it is not like he doesnt care about it. He said sorry and it was clearly unintentional.

Could you admins reconsider?

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That doesn't really bite so hard coming from a guy who has turned flying on TAW into farming kills WoW style.

 

 

Anyway, I saw the smack talk and he's right, it was low class. 

I don't get the farming kills thing - I take the AAA and enemy fighter ground attacker risks just like everyone else. And you flew 24 resupply missions out of your last 38 flights, so let's talk about farming points........

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Dude, you got 42+ hours flying time in this server and you're a buck private. Is that also due to a time zone conspiracy?

 

I am not surprised to hear this line of argument, however, i am disappointed. 

 

I fly in VR with galvanic vestibular stimulation electrodes to simulate G loading on my inner ears (when the things work properly and don't just electrocute me, but that a different story :biggrin:  - however, when they work properly, there is certain maneuvers you wont be pulling off as casually people without them do ), and do things with random people with varying levels of co ordination, worrying about my KD ratio is near the bottom of my give a F list when it comes to TAW. Immersion comes first, then mission and after all that, my KD ratio. 

Now, if you could point out, how my rank correlates to my other thoughts on this matter....

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because it detracts your credibility- - - -

 

I didn't see any trash-talking but I believe you and Silas and I must have missed it. It is uncalled for and poor sportsmanship, and if I had seen it I would have had a talk with the instigator on TS.

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because it detracts your credibility- - - -

 

 

 

If i had 400 hours of flight time, 0 kills, XXX amount of deaths and i was generally a basket case, that would still not effect the actual points i made. 

 

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Alright man, I think you're a good dude even though we have differing perceptions of the situation, and I'm sure we would get on great if we were flying the same side. We both voiced our points, lets go back and play some more now -

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Cpt_Siddy is stating facts. Guess you heard that before, well facts don't care about feelings. And StG77_HvB, whoever you are, you cannot undo bad behavior by pointing out "he had a bad run ingame and thus had no credibility".

 

If anything, it pulls the perception of your character and persona 3 stories lower StG77_HvB.

 

 

 

 

What I find especially disturbing however is that people ignore, what both Riksen and me and others have pointed out: From the side of stats, the sortie, and behavior - RH_Killer is innocent. 

 

He is still banned.

 

I ask everyone reading this, can you please spent at least some attention to that, and turn a wrong into a right.  :salute:

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It´s impossible to divebomb on TAW.

Was shot down yesterday with a direct one shot sniper hit from a 72-K flak. The AAA kept on shooting on me while I was on the parachute and then it killed me. It´s ridiculous, how precisely the AAA is shooting on this server. I like TAW for flying with an attacker plane, but flying a bomber is a suicide.

There has been lots of complaints about the AAA in this game Taw is well know for its AAA its harsh at times well most of the time , I don't think it will ever be fixed its been going on for some time now . People will tell you to do this and that but if your alone with out support , you will get shot down . The most realistic AAA is clod.IMHO.

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TBH 1cgs could hire an extra programmer for AI, MP infrastructure and Editor unless this patch will surprise me in that regard which i doubt.

 

The AI gunnery is aimbot with dispersion levels however without taking acceleration into account.

AI planes are flying upside down or doing horizontal turns in FWs vs I16s.

And the AA guns have their viewrange tied to their gunrange.

 

https://giphy.com/gifs/3ohs4CNLnHUIOhVSla

https://gfycat.com/DopeyDishonestArctichare

 

there is not much for TAW to fix here

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Unban RH_killer. He made a mistake and he has apologized. Take a plane from him as a penalty if you must, but the length of his ban is unnecessarily harsh. I think he has learned his lesson.

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Sorry, but seems to be a personal issue or what? RH_Killer banned 8 minutes after his single!!! friendly kill report, he has several normal air and ground kills, he apologies after that in chat, he appologies and reasonably explain here on forum and admins seems to dont see it now and unban him... Seriously, whats going on here?

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Watch out for SDV_Fin*19 : Clearly a parachute killer (reported many time on game chat, and saw it by myself this morning).

 

Too bad shooting at chute is allowed.

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Watch out for SDV_Fin*19 : Clearly a parachute killer (reported many time on game chat, and saw it by myself this morning).

 

Too bad shooting at chute is allowed.

Well, Chute Killing is historically accurate, but so was friendly Fire. Accidents happen my Friend, so make it look like one. 

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I fly in VR with galvanic vestibular stimulation electrodes to simulate G loading on my inner ears
 

You what with what? What is this mind warp technology you devised?

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They are like hunters that hunt their prey to extinction. They really can't seem to understand that fostering the common good ( fun play for EVERYONE ) is what keeps the game viable. Server admins can't keep sticking their head in the sand about this. Just because this stuff happens while they are sleeping doesn't mean it's not screwing up the campaign. People that have a record of playing BOTH sides should be given priority slots for choosing a given side in a new campaign and those slots should be limited. After the limit slots are FULL people should be assigned randomly sides in balanced fashion. "What about my Squadron, we want to fly together?" Your Squadron should EARN that privilege by switching sides instead of gang banging players in 4 to 1 scenarios in order to pad stats.

 

 

I would just not fly on TAW if I didn't like the side I was assigned. Its not a big loss at all. Plus it would encourage people to check out other dynamic campaign servers (that is, getting pissed off at TAW for not letting them fly what they want).

 

Though personally it hardly affects me as I mostly fly reds.

 

All in all though, we need more copycat servers that take the better parts of the current giants and fix their faults (looking mostly at WOL and TAW)

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My mistake is ignored by admin. Does not matter. I thank the pilots for their support.

 

Your mistake is not ignored. The rules are simple. If a player has been shot down by friendly fire, he has the right to report it. You can apologize to him, send flowers, etc., but if he reports here, then = ban.

It's only 3 days. C'mon man, You can live with it.  ;)

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Your mistake is not ignored. The rules are simple. If a player has been shot down by friendly fire, he has the right to report it. You can apologize to him, send flowers, etc., but if he reports here, then = ban.

It's only 3 days. C'mon man, You can live with it.  ;)

Well, why is Friendly Fire Banworthy, but Chutekilling isn't? Double Standards? It was a natural occurence IRL

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If i had 400 hours of flight time, 0 kills, XXX amount of deaths and i was generally a basket case, that would still not effect the actual points i made. 

 

 

It does somewhat.

You fly in VR making it harder.

You jerry rigged a device to throw off your balance while playing making it harder.

You take off from the closest airfield again and again making you predictable.

 

You put yourself at such a large disadvantage with these choices I don't think it's fair to complain about getting wrecked. At the very least move your spawn point to give yourself a chance.

 

I also fly short side. It's more fun that way but you need to be selective when you take off. Good luck.

 

The stimulation thing looks pretty cool. How did you build it? How does it know which side to activate?

 

https://www.wired.com/2015/09/hacking-inner-ear-vrand-science/

 

 

Do you think zapping your brain for a game is a good plan? Is it safe?

 

 

People try to modify others play style and throw insults. It's futile. There will always be guys who camp an airfield. In a full real campaign it should not be complained about at all. It's absolutely realistic to shoot up an airfield, parachute etc. The Eastern Front in particular was vicious.

 

Thankfully no one has shot me out of my chute yet.

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Ban for RH_Killer ended.

 

 

We will have to discuss rules for accident/deliberate friendly kill etc. Nobody is perfect, even admins.

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It does somewhat.

You fly in VR making it harder.

You jerry rigged a device to throw off your balance while playing making it harder.

You take off from the closest airfield again and again making you predictable.

 

You put yourself at such a large disadvantage with these choices I don't think it's fair to complain about getting wrecked. At the very least move your spawn point to give yourself a chance.

 

I also fly short side. It's more fun that way but you need to be selective when you take off. Good luck.

 

 

Do you think zapping your brain for a game is a good plan? Is it safe?

 

 

People try to modify others play style and throw insults. It's futile. There will always be guys who camp an airfield. In a full real campaign it should not be complained about at all. It's absolutely realistic to shoot up an airfield, parachute etc. The Eastern Front in particular was vicious.

 

Thankfully no one has shot me out of my chute yet.

 

Before i give you reply, did you read my posts? Do you suffer from some sort of mental disability i should know before taking time to engage with you in discussion? 

 

Let me give you a clue about the general gist: My performance is a red herring. The real issue i talked about was the HORRIBLY IMBALANCED TEAMS DURING US TZ.

No where did i talk about "how it was unfair that i was camped in", i just mentioned the smack talk that certain squad gave. Nothing to do with my or any other individuals performance. 

 

HvB commited a logical fallacy when he tried to discredit my point because my personal performance was not up to his standards. You are picking up the discussion from that point and generally showing total ignorance of the issue that i was discussing about.

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How can this be possible, bug? Total damage over 1,0,,,

 

    Sortie of 303_Vins                
                    
Date    Event    Damage    Object    Type    Enemy
9.2.2018 22:47    PLANE SPAWNED                
9.2.2018 22:54    TOOK OFF                
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0070    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0130    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0110    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0100    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0500    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0050    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0050    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,1160    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,5720    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,2630    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    GUNNER WAS DESTROYED        Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0080    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0080    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0050    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0070    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0060    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 22:57    WAS DAMAGED    0,0050    Bf 109 F-4    Plane    LLv24_Veccu
9.2.2018 23:00    LANDED                   
        total                                           1,0910    ????
                    
           
 

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Err... He received 109% damage AND landed?? They must have had some spare wooden planks and super-glue on board.

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Lol pop corn has been ordered .. I wonder were the parents are . Man its just a game .

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Before i give you reply, did you read my posts? Do you suffer from some sort of mental disability i should know before taking time to engage with you in discussion? 

 

Let me give you a clue about the general gist: My performance is a red herring. The real issue i talked about was the HORRIBLY IMBALANCED TEAMS DURING US TZ.

No where did i talk about "how it was unfair that i was camped in", i just mentioned the smack talk that certain squad gave. Nothing to do with my or any other individuals performance. 

 

HvB commited a logical fallacy when he tried to discredit my point because my personal performance was not up to his standards. You are picking up the discussion from that point and generally showing total ignorance of the issue that i was discussing about.

 

Oh my bad.

 

I did pick up late.

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Hello!

Id like to make a suppose for some next planeset or campaigns. Why dont restrict a variety of accessible planes after registering as a bomber,  an attacker or a fighter only?! If you want to get a vast planeset, you can register with 2 or 3 kinds of career (like at the present campaign), but for a bomber (e.g.) there is no need in fighters, especially when collectors/not owned planes are added before common ones. Moreover it could help to simulate a regiment system in a war theater, especially for squads. E.g. the reds dont get 1200 planes for map overall, but a definite quantity is separated between 3 kinds of users. And if the reds lose fast a definite type of planes then they suffer to perform a definite type of activitiy. The present promotion system could be used to estimate a priority of resupply for a player/regiment/squad. The ingame economic and supply system (depots, supply convoys, trains, airfield facilities) will determine the rate of replenishment of plane bank (both overall and definite type and at a specific field).

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How can this be possible, bug? Total damage over 1,0,,,

 

Sortie of 303_Vins

 

Date Event Damage Object Type Enemy

9.2.2018 22:47 PLANE SPAWNED

9.2.2018 22:54 TOOK OFF

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0070 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0130 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0110 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0100 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0500 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0050 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0050 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,1160 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,5720 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,2630 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 GUNNER WAS DESTROYED Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0080 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0080 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0050 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0070 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0060 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 22:57 WAS DAMAGED 0,0050 Bf 109 F-4 Plane LLv24_Veccu

9.2.2018 23:00 LANDED

total 1,0910 ????

 

 

 

It's not visible from victim point of you, but if you check your sortie you will see that his plane was damaged and gunner was damaged as well. The gunner took most damage and then was destroyed. So damage in total may be over 100%. Edited by =LG=Kathon

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Hi Kathon,

 

Are the trucks out of the winning conditions for this campaign ?

I was expecting a map rotation after this one. 

 

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