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3° Mission of    "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!"  Tournament

 

 

:megaphone:IMPORTANT NOTICE: DUE TO CHANGE OF GAME VERSION, THE MISSION WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL NEW NOTICE :megaphone:

 

 

Last changes of the new Game Version affect the Mission Form, therefore our Designers need a bit Time for updating.

We think to  restart in 1 Week but we will Notice when Ready.

 
In the meanwhile, Stay tuned on WINGSofITALY RADIOSTATION.
 
 
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We finally have the answer for the track recordings in the last question to developers (http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/7-questions-developers/page-43): 

 

coconut, on 13 Feb 2016 - 12:18, said:snapback.png

Another quick question: Does recording tracks have any effect on server load? Do they increase the probability of getting a server overload message?

No any affect.

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"WINGS OF ITALY" "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!"  Tournament (02/03 2016 - h.21.30)

 

Messieurs,

 

The 3° Mission of the Tournament, which will represent a feedback on Hystorical order of Battles for Stalingrad, will be:

 

 First  Map - 11/1/1942

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Date: 11th of January, 1942
Time: 03.30 pm
Weather conditions: Calm weather, clear sky, no precipitation.

COMBAT TASKS(VVS): Destroy 5 out of 6 objectives: Tasks for ground attack aircrafts
1) Moving PzIV tank column (route marked on the map).
2) Deployed car convoy in Malaya Orlovka.
3) Artillery positons on the riverside of the Volga, containing guns and bunkers.
4) Airfield next to the frontline. !! ATTENTION !! It is necessary to destroy the planes, cars and fuel depots, including the buildings! Tasks for level bombers
5) Repair shops.
6) Enemy forces near front line, including warehouses, ammunition and fuel depots. Tasks for our fighters
7) Protect your bombers and ground units! Especially your tank column (route marked on the map)- a successful cover is required. At least half of the column has to arrive at destination (8 out of 16).

COMBAT TASKS(Luftwaffe) :
Destroy 5 out of 6 objectives: Tasks for ground attack aircrafts
1) Moving T-34 tank column (route marked on the map).
2) Tanks and Tankers which are carrying out fuel and weapon replenishments.
3) Bridge - south of Stalingrad.
4) Airfield next to the frontline. !! ATTENTION !! It is necessary to destroy the planes, cars and fuel depots, including the buildings! Tasks for level bombers
5t) Enemy forces near front line, including warehouses, ammunition and fuel depots.
6) Railway station, trains and warehouses. Tasks for our fighters
7) Protect your bombers and ground units! Especially your tank column (route marked on the map)- a successful cover is required.
At least half of the column has to arrive at destination (8 out of 16).

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3° Mission of "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!" Tournament


The WINGS OF ITALY Organizers would express to all Pilots and Gentlemen the congratulation for their Performances and in general for Joining this Event.


The Server held its job, also if with some overload due to in - out traffic, but not dramatic,

therefore the MATCH is VALID for the Tournament!

ITALIAN_EAGLE_2.jpg

At this point, congratulation to the BLUE TEAM which won for Targets Destruction 5 to 3 winning the 3rd RUN.
Anyway more effective than ever, the action of French Team which was LEADING the First half of Match!!! Bravo! 36_1_55.gif


TOURNAMENT SCORE at 18 02 2016 ............ WINNER
______________________________________________________________________ _____________________
1° RUN.................BLUE 5 - RED 3 ......................BLUE
2° RUN.................BLUE 6 - RED 1 ......................BLUE
3° RUN.................BLUE 5 - RED 3 ......................BLUE




Hereinafter the Statistics in Details.
Therefore also to the Italian Team and its Foreign Legion, a BRAVO!!!! salute.png


http://52.28.130.217/en/?tour=59


WOI_3_F_stats.jpg


We are preparing the 4th Mission, therefore appointment to Next Wednesday 10 March 2016 for another rousing Match of the FANTASTIC


"WINGS OF ITALY" "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!" Tournament


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It was terrific !!! Very nice show !!!

 

Chech your Mp's inbox, we have some requests.

 

C u next wednesday !!!!

Edited by -IRRE-golgoth21

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"WINGS OF ITALY" "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!"  Tournament (09/03/2016 - h.21.30)

 

Messieurs,

 

The 4° Mission of the Tournament, will be:

 

 

 

4) Volga_Riverside - 12/9/1942

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Date: 12.09.1942

COMBAT TASKS(VVS)
1. Destroy the artillery at Beketovka - 421.7.
2. Destroy the railway station and depots at Lyapichev - 450.9.
3. Destroy the artillery at Spartanovka - 315.1.
4. Destroy the convoy at Voroponovo - 385.
5. Destroy the AAA train travelling from Nov. Roganchik(383) to Stalingrad(385).
6. Destroy the train and vehicles at Gumrak railway station - 349.
7. Destroy the garrison of Verh. Tsaritsinsky - 490.

COMBAT TASKS(Luftwaffe)
1. Destroy the artillery north of Stalindrad - 315.
2. Destroy the artillery at Krasnaya Sloboda - 386.8.
3. Destroy the rocket artillery convoy between Tinguta and Solyanka - 493.
4. Destroy the railway station and depots at Zaplavnoe - 354.1.
5. Destroy the enemy train travelling from Mal. Chapurniki(458) to Elshanka(385) via Beketovka.
6. Destroy the train and vehicles at Mal. Chapurniki railway station - 458.
7. Destroy the enemy troops and vehicles in Ivanovka - 457.

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Woow! Great Combats!!!

 

... and congratulation to Normandie Niemen Pilots for the performance...

 

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Mercì Rugby

 

 

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Hello!

 

I just wanted to give you some suggestions after my second Wings of Italy game tonight.

 

I want to suggest that pilots pick their planes prior to the game and NEVER change them while playing (it would be more realistic imo and I don't know much examples of bomber pilots who flew fighters) that would avoid a spam of fighters when most of the ground targets are destroyed like it happened tonight.

Next thing, the amount of fighters and fighter-bombers should be limited (if not all the planes).

Also it would be good to increase the BoS Pe-2 payload since we had no 250kg bombs and only 100kgs tonight.

May I ask for the 23mm or 37mm to be added to the LaGG? Because nobody will play it otherwise.

 

Thanks by advance!

 

Kind Regards, 

 

Hauggy aka Haugeranville

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Hello

 

Tonight we experienced a lot of freeze.  i'm aware it's not the server's fault but, we lost many pilots due to this.

 

Anyway, here are some suggestions : 

 

It would be nice to see the following payloads on each airfields.

 

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And i agree with Hauggy.

 

German jabos can carry some bigger bombs. I know it's historic, but.... nut really fun to see a good fighter plane carrying the same payload as an IL2. (almost). So i suggest a fighter pilot flyes Fighter (not a jabo) and a bomber pilot flies Bomber. Period.

 

Here are the payloads available on WOI

 

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Edited by -IRRE-golgoth21

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4° Mission of "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!" Tournament


The WINGS OF ITALY Organizers would express to all Pilots and Gentlemen the congratulation for their Performances and in general for Joining this Event.


The New "Wing of Italy" Power Server performed a fantastic job, finally without any overload,

therefore the MATCH is VALID for the Tournament!

ITALIAN_EAGLE_2.jpg

At this point, congratulation to the BLUE TEAM which won for Targets Destruction 6 to 3 winning the 3rd RUN.
Anyway, effective the action of French Team which was LEADING the Match Starting!!! Bravo! 36_1_55.gif


TOURNAMENT SCORE at 10 03 2016 ............ WINNER
______________________________________________________________________ _____________________
1° RUN.................BLUE 5 - RED 3 ......................BLUE
2° RUN.................BLUE 6 - RED 1 ......................BLUE
3° RUN.................BLUE 5 - RED 3 ......................BLUE
4° RUN.................BLUE 6 - RED 3 ......................BLUE





Hereinafter the Statistics in Details.
Therefore also to the Italian Team and its Foreign Legion, a BRAVO!!!! salute.png


http://52.28.130.217/en/?tour=61


WOI_4_F_stats.jpg


We are preparing the 5th Mission, therefore appointment to Next Wednesday 16 March 2016 for another rousing Match of the FANTASTIC


"WINGS OF ITALY" "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!" Tournament


WOI_TOUR_FRENCH_v_B.jpg


WOI_4_F_stats.jpg
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Ok guys, there some other stats for you

I counted all flights of more than 10 minutes for all the pilots in this mission.

Here is the results :

 

LLW

 

Fw 190 : 34

Bf 109 : 23

Bf 110 : 12

Ju 87 : 7

He 111 : 4

 

So you had 57 flights with your "fighters"

23 flights in medium and heavy bombers

 

 

VVS

 

Yak-1 : 29

La-5 : 4

MiG-3 : 3

P-40 : 3

Pe-2 : 13

IL-2 : 20

 

We had 35 flights with our pure fighters (all bombs locked)

36 flights with medium and light (P-40) bombers

 

 

You managed to destroy 5 objectives in 30 minutes, In the same time, we destroyed only 2 targets.

Your Jabo capacities are clearly too important.

 

 

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Hi Gentlemen,
 
thanks for comments and suggestions, that will be taken in charges for sure, becouse our aim is to render the  WINGS OF ITALY Combat World more realistic and simulative, as possible.
 
Therefore:
 We have just limited the Big Bombs for German Planes avoiding 1000 kg , for Jabos and 1800 kg and 2400 kg for Bombers, allowing 1000kg bombs only for He-111 and in very limited numbers (12 aircraft only)
On Red side we gave the limitation of 23mm and 37mm cannon for pure fighters, (becouse here overmodelled) allowing it only for IL-2, (Historycal)

 

Moreover, don't forget, when doing Balance considerations, that these mission were prepared by Gagarin, allowing to Germans very heavy weapons, becouse he puts in game a number of objects to destroy superior than numbers of Red Side.

We didn't modify these Gagarin Balance considerations when introduced our limitation for Blu side.

Therefore, now, we are not so sure regarding the new Balance.

For example when we play vs Russians, our superior objects numbers to destroy appears unbalanced to us.

Difficult to evaluate correctly, only experience will give us the correct answers...

 
Anyway, regarding the French Challenge, we will take in charge all this new suggestions (apart 23mm for Lagg-3, for the seen reasons)  and in general any suggestion that  growt the Simulation into a Realistic one...

 

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Thanks Gentlemen
 
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I disagree with you for the LaGG-3 23mm. It's only 1 canon with 90 rounds. Your 57 Fw 190s have a far better damage power than the few LaGG-3 with a 23 mm we could fly...

Edited by -IRRE-Biluf

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Also the Lagg is clearly the worst fighter in the game, but it deserves a bit of love imo and a better gun would certainly help. <3

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FW limitation is 250Kg, so 500Kg is not allowed for Jabo fighter, at least yesterday evening was not allowed.

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Hi Gentlemen,

 

thanks for comments and suggestions, that will be taken in charges for sure, becouse our aim is to render the  WINGS OF ITALY Combat World more realistic and simulative, as possible.

 

Therefore:

 

.../....

 

Anyway, regarding the French Challenge, we will take in charge all this new suggestions (apart 23mm for Lagg-3, for the seen reasons)  and in general any suggestion that  growt the Simulation into a Realistic one...

 

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Thanks Gentlemen

 

Salute! salute.png

 

The screen capture of the germans payload is the one set into Gagarin's maps. We would like to see it modified. No Bombs for the FW190 would be more fair.

 

Cipson, when you write "we will take in charge all this new suggestions" do you mean you will lock bombs for Fw190 in order we have Blue Pure Bombers and Pure Fighters.

Bombers do bombing and fighters do escort or air interception. No possibility to switch from Bomber to Fighter, and vice versa. Fw 190 is too powerful as a Jabo. It's almost as powerful as an IL2 (pure air to land attacker)  but twice faster and agile.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Let's try this for a round, at least.

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Well, the Lagg approach is due to experience made with our Russian Mates.

Some skilled Russian Pilot were able to use the Lagg Cannons, especially the 37mm, in the air-air combat, and with 1 only shot were in condition to splash down an heavy fighter, like the 110 and, more incredible, the same aircraft was still in condition to dogfight without problems with the german 109s.

Evidently, this was possible only due to the fact, here in BOS, the Flying Model (in case of heavy cannon aboard)  is not accurate, not taking in account the increase of wheight, especially in the aircraft front, resulting in a forward moving of gravity center, that made the performances of the russian Fighter, in reality, already penalized by a weak M-105 engine, particulary critical.

Infact, the Lagg3 with 37mm were built in only 3 prototipes tested against the heavy bombers, but immediately abandoned.

Similar story for 23mm cannons, utilized with few success on Lagg-3, for the same reasons.

The Volkov-Yartsev-23mm fired a 200g projectile containing 10g of HE or penetrate 1 inch armor at 400m  with AP rounds.
It's muzzle velocity was 905mps!!  Rate of fire ranged from 370-600rpm.

Volkov-Yartsev-23mm cannon made the IL-2 famous, but not the Lagg-3, suffering for the weak engine associated.


Without entering in the Operative History of each airplane considered by BOS, and the related  modelization, we decided  in our Simulation Event, as General Principle, to avoid any "particular" weapon application, in Hystory used in "not-significant" numbers, in order to avoid a Generalization of a minor Issues.

Therefore our choose: No Atomic Bombs for Blue Side and Laser Cannons for Red Side.

The experiment, just made with our Russian Mates, has already given the better and realistic results, on the contrary of the original situation, where we all experienced irrealistic air combats, for both sides.

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Sounds legit.

By the way I made a small video from some of the footage i recorded from the 4th of March event, enjoy!

 

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Regarding the FW jabo, if you think that this could create Unbalancing, no problem to change, also if, here in BOS, FW-190 is not modelled as a pure fighter, like it was in reality, but more as heavy fighter, (as per Hitler concept of FW), therefore for Jabo user.

 

Anyway this request is acceptable...

 

Cip :salute:

 

 

PS : GREAT VIDEO HAUGGY, TKS A LOT!

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Regarding the FW jabo, if you think that this could create Unbalancing, no problem to change, also if, here in BOS, FW-190 is not modelled as a pure fighter, like it was in reality, but more as heavy fighter, (as per Hitler concept of FW), therefore for Jabo user.

 

Anyway this request is acceptable...

 

Cip :salute:

 

 

PS : GREAT VIDEO HAUGGY, TKS A LOT!

Thanks Cipson <3

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Training 5° Mission ready

 

FW-190 are only Fighters

 

I will send you asap

 

Good Training

:salute: Cip

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Cool.... we will be able to build a strategy !!!!

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ERRATA CORRIDGE:

 

I have to modify a wrong information:

 

All 1000kg bombs were already eliminated from Axis Ordinance also in previous missions and we confirm this conduct.

 

Moreover we confirm the role of FW-190 as pure fighter and limited in number.

 

We extended the payload and type of Russian aircraft, as you can see by Mission training, in sharing just now...

 

Good Training

:salute: Cip

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"WINGS OF ITALY" "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!"  Tournament (16/03/2016 - h.21.30)

 

Messieurs,

 

The 5° Mission of the Tournament, will be:

 

5) Stalingrad South - 10.10.1942

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Date: 10.10.1942
The beginning of the mission: 10:00
Weather conditions: Clouds small. Wind at the surface 1 m / s 156 c.

COMBAT TASKS(VVS) destroy any target 4 of 5.

1. Fuel stocks in the square 380.9
2. Advanced enemy airfield in the square 383.6
3. Tank column on the march coming out of the square 454.6
4. Captured enemy airfield in the square 565.1
5. Tank column on the march coming out of the square 636.7

COMBAT TASKS(Luftwaffe)
1. Enemy ships. Starting point of the route, square 279.6
2. Artillery positions in the square 456.8
3. Concentration of troops in the square 530.1 (required destruction of more than half of the tanks!)
4. Military column in the square 639.1 (required destruction of more than half of the tanks!)
5. Military depots in the square 712.9

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5° Mission of "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!" Tournament


The WINGS OF ITALY Organizers would express to all Pilots and Gentlemen the congratulation for their Performances and in general for Joining this Event.

The New "Wing of Italy" Power Server performed a fantastic job, finally without any overload,

therefore the MATCH is VALID for the Tournament!

assassins-creed-unity.jpg

At this point, congratulation to the FRENCH TEAM which won for Targets Destruction 4 to 2 winning the 5th RUN.
Very effective the action of French Team which was LEADING from the Match Starting!!!     Bravo!  salute.png

TOURNAMENT SCORE at 16 03 2016 ............ WINNER
______________________________________________________________________ _____________________
1° RUN.................BLUE 5 - RED 3 ......................BLUE
2° RUN.................BLUE 6 - RED 1 ......................BLUE
3° RUN.................BLUE 5 - RED 3 ......................BLUE
4° RUN.................BLUE 6 - RED 3 ......................BLUE

5° RUN.................BLUE 2 - RED 4 ......................RED

 

Hereinafter Statistics in Details.

http://52.28.130.217/en/?tour=65
WOS_5_MF_Stats.jpg

We are preparing the 6th Mission, therefore appointment to Next Wednesday 23 March 2016 for another rousing Match of the FANTASTIC

"WINGS OF ITALY" "THE FRENCH CHALLENGE!!!!" Tournament

WOI_TOUR_FRENCH_v_B.jpg



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Edited by ITA_Cipson

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Yesterday evening the german hunt did a great show. Congratulation.

 

But i also want to congratulate my team mates on the duty they achieved in the respect of the briefing.

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