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#2761 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 14:52

In my opinion Eric Winkle Brown was probably the best overall Pilot of all times. He has so many firsts to his name. All of these snippets are worth a watch. His entire early Life's Story is understated if you say amazing. 

 

 

youtube.com/watch?v=d9Hjne0OA4w

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youtube.com/watch?v=ZjxtglNgWSQ

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#2762 7.GShAP/Silas

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 15:10

Not as much of a soldier, though.


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#2763 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 15:14

Not as much of a soldier, though.

Yet, his Skills impress me more than those of most aces. And his story is by far more interesting. 


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#2764 216th_Cat

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 15:16

Not as much of a soldier, though.

 

That's why he said 'overall Pilot'.

Saw him at a book-signing once. Didn't know at the time about all of the things he'd done or else I'd have been as star-struck as everyone else.

Cheers.

 


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#2765 Ikaros78

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 15:28

German airforce had over a 100 pilots with over a 100airkills each one,hartman was one of the topest in airkills but not the best of them,people like galland made the difference and then they rest back as instractors and generals,and most of them werent even nazis!the were just german pilots!a big respect to them!
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#2766 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 15:33

German airforce had over a 100 pilots with over a 100airkills each one,hartman was one of the topest in airkills but not the best of them,people like galland made the difference and then they rest back as instractors and generals,and most of them werent even nazis!the were just german pilots!a big respect to them!

Could you please not write as if you were 7 years old? It makes reading your stuff very tedious. 


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#2767 Ikaros78

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 15:38

sorry english is not my language,try to focus in my english to get my point,i bet most people dont have a prob to get the point..:)
so maybe you arent in those average iq ones..:)

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#2768 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 15:40

Neither is it mine, but I do make an Effort. 


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#2769 Ikaros78

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 15:55

i believe everyone with the basic english and an iq over 60 i should say,could make a point..
so..you are under this iq?or you are too smart to accept them?
maybe you should see a doctor about your attitude also?to preted the smart guy and insult people most time isnt the wisest you could do in this community..

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#2770 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 16:02

wellicouldalsowriteinanunnecessarilyannoyingwayandjustcallyoustupidforcallingmeoutonit......... :huh:  :unsure:  :biggrin:  :angry: andaddalotofunncecessarysmileys,,,,,,,,!!!!!!!..............butdoingthatmakesitunlikelythat :huh:  :sleep:  :happy:  :mellow:  :P peoplewillreadyourpostsandjustskipthem,,,,,,---------------


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#2771 307_Tomcat

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 16:07

I developed reading problem ,I have to go home after next drink :P
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#2772 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 16:16

I don't get why some think posting on the Forums can be done in the same manner as drunkenly Whatsapping your Ex Girl- or Boyfriend. I, personally, tend not to give them the time of day if they can't formulate their posts in a well readible manner. 

 

In the adult world writing like that, in big walls of indistinctive text just gets you fired. Seperate your text into easily digestible parts and life will be easier for you. 

Also: Learn the difference between your and you're, their, they're and there. 

 

I trying to decipher your scribbling becomes a chore, don't expect people to welcome you with open arms. 


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#2773 Ikaros78

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 16:18

Kemp asked you somthing?why you are not replying to him?where those big balls gone??;)
probably he also has some issues of getting your point...:)
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#2774 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 16:36

Kemp asked you somthing?why you are not replying to him?where those big balls gone?? ;)
probably he also has some issues of getting your point... :)

Oh, well, I don't know what assumes about me. But I assume he sees me as a God Like personality, worthy of Worship and Donations. And he would be correct in that assumption. 

And I do indeed have trouble fitting my Grapefruit sized Balls into my Jeans, so I just let them hang loose. 

 

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#2775 216th_Cat

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 16:51

 

And I do indeed have trouble fitting my Grapefruit sized Balls into my Jeans, so I just let them hang loose. 

 

 

 

I will never, ever, be able to eat a grapefruit again... :o:


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#2776 7.GShAP/Silas

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 17:16

If anything is proof of the popularity of the server, the last page and a half of this thread are.


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#2777 -[HRAF]Black_Sab

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 17:34

Hmm. Did I just click on the WOL sub-forum? I wanted to check the Random forum.


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#2778 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 17:49

"Hiss", don't mention that wretched hive of scum and villainy here.


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 21:24

Could you please not write as if you were 7 years old? It makes reading your stuff very tedious. 

 

 

"Hiss", don't mention that ratchet hive of scum and villainy here.

 

"Wretched hive of scum"   :P  ;)


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#2780 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 23:50

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#2781 72AG_Crusader

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:46

You feel bored?

No, I'm building new server. Because this one gone to dead end with it's gameplay concept.

So what about those of us who do not feel bored with this server? I don't like TAW and I'd rather play on Random Expert... :(  Not good.

Everyone has preferences to play on his favorite server. As I said, the server mechanics became worse than it was at the beginning (year ago). I choose wrong way to make universal gameplay. The best idea is to make unique and dynamic gameplay. Without extremes.

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#2782 -[HRAF]BubiHUN

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 14:28

No, I'm building new server. Because this one gone to dead end with it's gameplay concept.
Everyone has preferences to play on his favorite server. As I said, the server mechanics became worse than it was at the beginning (year ago). I choose wrong way to make universal gameplay. The best idea is to make unique and dynamic gameplay. Without extremes.

so its Work in Progress. Thats a good thing to hear.


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#2783 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 14:42

What the hell does it mean though? 


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#2784 -[HRAF]BubiHUN

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 18:48

What the hell does it mean though? 

maybe it was too tiring to maintain the playable state of the server and the campaign. Maybe.


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#2785 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 19:25

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#2786 7.GShAP/Silas

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 15:09

He was still part of the air-superiority enabling the third Reich to do as it did, not some angel who cured cancer. I don't appreciate the throwing around of his name as an insult, but it is a bit weird, or makes me 'uneasy', to idolise the 'kills' of someone who was associated (not directly with the example given below but) with such things as:

 

Just google for: kazimiera mika

 

So if you feel people are disrespectful, unfortunately that's just how it is with people of different opinions and different feelings about war.

 

 

 

(And yes, all sides did terrible things in and out of war.)

 

 

I see your disclaimer at the end but I can't help myself.  Uh, I have some bad news for you.  Western air forces were at different times given explicit orders to strafe with their guns all people they found, civilian or otherwise.  So if that's the standard you hold these men to(and I don't mind at all, as long as it is applied universally) then the list of men you'll feel comfortable praising will be thin.  And frankly that's just as true with wars nowadays.

 

 

See, if Random Expert were up we wouldn't be having these off-topic conversations!  What have things come to!


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#2787 I./ZG1_Panzerbar

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 15:19

Erich Hartmann was one of the best fighter pilots ever, both from skills point of view as well as decision making during air combat. 

I wonder why some folks want to make it appear as if he was some kind of idiot.

There is a question: what is a criterion of a fighter pilot's skill?

 

Number of air victories? No, it is not, even inside one same airforse.

Because of different service conditions of fighter pilots. You cannot say, that Eastern Front pilots were more skilled, then Western Front pilots, judging only on air victories. Free hunter will always have more victories, then interceptor (Reich Defense), and interceptor will always have more victories, then escort fighter. Albin Wolf (JG1, JG54) flew olmost 200 boring North Sea patrol missions with JG1 without a single victory, and then got 144 victories on Eastern Front. 

 

And there iseven less connection of a skill with a benefit of a fighter pilot for his Army. 

Hans-Joachim Marseille and his brilliant friends from JG27 were amazing in fighter-versus-fighter duels, most of their victories in summer-autumn 1942 were Hurricanes and Spitfires. But what was the benefit for ground troops? Zero. Rommel failed because of wiped-out supply routes, wich were terrorised by Allied Bombers. But JG27, as other fighter units in North Afrika, cared only about number of victories, awards, glory e.t.c. Result in was poor, ended in april-may 1943 in Tunis.

 

If we will look into air aerobatiks and pilotage part of a "fighter skill", so Erich Hohagen was not a Luftwaffe top ace, and more other pre-war aerobatics champions were shot down and killed by less skilled, "average" pilots of opponent side.

 

Again, what is a criterion of a "fighter pilots" skill?


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#2788 I./ZG1_Panzerbar

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 15:26

He was THE best fighter pilot of all times. 352 kills was and will never be achieved by any other pilot (hopefully!!!).
although it is not really a topic for this forum i also start feeling uneasy about the level of disrespect regarding his name.True is that it is reasonable to consider BnZ tactics in the BF109 even if all those yak-jockeys would love to see each 109 entering blindly into dogfights and get easy prey.
keep accusing this with whatever naming you think is funny but maybe find another name. just my 5 cents!

I researched Otto Kittel's claimed deeply, and I could say amazing most of 267's are confirmed with soviet losses.

Research of Nikita Egorov, show a very bad result on Hartmann's reability of claims. It is truth that Hartmann was a hightest overclaimer of all fighetr pilots of all times.


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#2789 7.GShAP/Silas

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 15:53

No that's exactly what I mean.

 

And I'm not looking for a list of men to praise, that is also exactly my point. I'm not comfortable praising killing, (particularly so when it is in the name of certain ideologies), I'm here playing a game/sim, not looking for a pin-up hero.

 

When people talk of "so and so" as "the best' or use their names as game-names, or hold them up as idols in some way, that is bizarre, (to me).

 

To phrase it another way, I see War as something to remember as a tragedy, rather than something to glorify, or reward (for want of better words).

 

 

I agree, absolutely.


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#2790 Carl_infar

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 17:04

No, I'm building new server. Because this one gone to dead end with it's gameplay concept.
Everyone has preferences to play on his favorite server. As I said, the server mechanics became worse than it was at the beginning (year ago). I choose wrong way to make universal gameplay. The best idea is to make unique and dynamic gameplay. Without extremes.

 

Hi,

 

Anyway I must say that the Random Expert during last campaign became my favourite server - and Thank You very much for it!

The system both for the obtaining the planes and modyfications was well thought. (except the minor thing that the max number of mods should be in my opinion 10 to 15 minimum for bombers/attackers).

The new stat page with shared kills and all the other details was just superb.

The goals on each map were clear designed and asked for team play.

the targets like trains, columns etc were moving as they schould be etc.

 

So for me by no means it was an dead end or boring.


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#2791 RedPaulshow2

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 14:30

good point. the moving tank columns are quite immersive. in one of the last missions of the last campaign i searched and found the enemy tank column just some 2km away from our defenses and a fierce ground battle was going on with tracers flying from both sides. never saw that on other servers.
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#2792 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 17:06

I like how when a RE+ Campaign Ends, TAW starts. 

 

I do rather enjoy being able to properly equip my plane on TAW again. It does lift a weight of your shoulder being free to set up your Aircraft for the Mission at Hand. 


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#2793 -[HRAF]BubiHUN

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 13:30

Is there anything new?


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#2794 -[HRAF]Grunf

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 09:38

Hi there,

I guess,  a lot of players on IL-2 are waiting the Random Expert Server to be back online. The last version was already a pleasure to play. 

 

My question is, if it is possible to receive a status quo (a sentence or two per week) about the stage of development of the future, new Random Expert multiplayer? 

Pls....I can´t play on WoL - It´s a pain in the ass :-))

 

Thank you very much in advance for your answer. 


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#2795 -[HRAF]Black_Sab

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 14:00

Is it possible to push one button and restart the previous campaign exactly as it was without any development work on the server? This is a question not a suggestion as I have absolutely no idea how these things work and how much work is required from the admins to keep things at bay during a campaign.


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#2796 -[HRAF]BubiHUN

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 12:43

Is it possible to push one button and restart the previous campaign exactly as it was without any development work on the server? This is a question not a suggestion as I have absolutely no idea how these things work and how much work is required from the admins to keep things at bay during a campaign.

well that would make sense
 


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#2797 72AG_Crusader

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 15:44

It's no so easy to maintain one server and develop another one. We decided not to start the old one until we finish new verson. Server team hope for your understanding.


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#2798 RedPaulshow2

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 08:20

thx crusader for update. we are counting on you and really miss your server.
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#2799 -[HRAF]Grunf

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 11:11

It's no so easy to maintain one server and develop another one. We decided not to start the old one until we finish new verson. Server team hope for your understanding.

 

If u need some helping hands....just say.


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#2800 -[HRAF]BubiHUN

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 11:31

Just another suggestion. Is there a way to  - and if its possible - to increase the duration of the battles? I mean, not so drastically, but meybe to 3 hours?


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