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Pat, for the RAF uniform I've got all the decorations done save for the wound chevron.  There are only 3 basic ribbons beside the pilot wings, the VC, the DFC in three grades, Denoted by an added pip for each award, and the DSO in 2 grades, with a single pip for a second award.  I can easily add other awards if you choose to incorporate.
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The wound chevron I'm having issues finding evidence of for the RAF.  I do see a wound stripe, but cant find any evidence of it being awarded and displayed on an RAF officer uniform, either way, I took a stab at the display as the stripe is seen in the army and this is what I got.
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7 часов назад, ual002 сказал:

@Kur12, which rank would the Russian Pilot Sergeant be?  Maybe I can knock that out just in case we dont use Jr Lt.


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Correct only on the left - the sergeant. After the sergeant, the pilot was immediately given a lieutenant.

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Looks like it was worn on the bottom of the sleeve just where you have it.

 

Wound Stripes | kiwisoldier

As for more awards - those are the ones in PWCG right now.  I was not going to add more at this time.

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2 hours ago, ual002 said:

Pat, for the RAF uniform I've got all the decorations done save for the wound chevron.  There are only 3 basic ribbons beside the pilot wings, the VC, the DFC in three grades, Denoted by an added pip for each award, and the DSO in 2 grades, with a single pip for a second award.  I can easily add other awards if you choose to incorporate.
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Great work on this ual002. Re the RAF medals, the order as you look at it should always be, L-R: VC DSO DFC

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10 часов назад, ual002 сказал:

@Kur12, which rank would the Russian Pilot Sergeant be?  Maybe I can knock that out just in case we dont use Jr Lt.


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Sergeant Senior
sergeant
Starshina


 

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For sergeant shoulder straps, take the letters from the first or second shoulder straps in these pictures (correctly, if there is a single letter).
Б - bomber
И - fighter
Ш - attack aircraft
The letter Г means a guards unit, but then there should be a corresponding sign on the chest, but we do not have it.

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Pat that example photo is of a Canadian I think.  There is debate on some forum whether or not it applies to the rest of the commonwealth, but unless someone with hard evidence wants to debate it, I say we keep it.  

As far as the Russians go Pat, before I dive into the NCO ranks unnecessarily, I was wondering if you would prefer to use Jr. Lt. as the first rank.  With how involved I get I can already tell, the Russian NCO stuff is gonna be a deep dive.

My first task today is figuring out what award is what with that Italian fruit salad I posted, and breaking them up into their individual awards.  Maybe get a little actual flying in today as well.

Supplementary tasks include something I noticed with the American uniform.  That uniform I inherited from the original artwork, All I really did was separate the awards from the tunic and add my own, however being from the US myself, I find that shade of green strange, I thought the Americans had very brown looking drab dress tunics, can anyone confirm this?

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15 minutes ago, ual002 said:

Pat that example photo is of a Canadian I think.  There is debate on some forum whether or not it applies to the rest of the commonwealth, but unless someone with hard evidence wants to debate it, I say we keep it.  

As far as the Russians go Pat, before I dive into the NCO ranks unnecessarily, I was wondering if you would prefer to use Jr. Lt. as the first rank.  With how involved I get I can already tell, the Russian NCO stuff is gonna be a deep dive.

My first task today is figuring out what award is what with that Italian fruit salad I posted, and breaking them up into their individual awards.  Maybe get a little actual flying in today as well.

Supplementary tasks include something I noticed with the American uniform.  That uniform I inherited from the original artwork, All I really did was separate the awards from the tunic and add my own, however being from the US myself, I find that shade of green strange, I thought the Americans had very brown looking drab dress tunics, can anyone confirm this?

 

New Zealander.  I guess it's possible the British did things differently but I'm willing to go with it.  We know the British Army put them there.  We know that the NZ RAF put them there.  Not that big of a stretch.

 

Don't worry about the Russian NCOs, at least not now.  So Jr Lt is fine.

 

Italians: the medals and ribbons that I posted are the only ones in PWCG.  

 

Everything else: as you wish.  I have been doing PWCG for 11 years and I still spend 10-20 hours a week on it.  it's not going to all get done in one shot.  What you have provided so far is more than enough for an initial release.  Make sure you're having fun and not stressing over it.

 

My wish list: The one thing that I really want before the first release is the RAF uniform.   I think that what you have right now is fine.  If you feel the same just post it.  Not so worried about the Italian uniform.  Nice to have but so few people play that it probably won't be noticed for some time.

 

I wrote the code to handle Knights Crosses yesterday and added the different flavors.  Now the highest one awarded will be shown.  That same logic will be useful for British decorations with bars.  

 

Have yet to do anything with ranks but there is a good chance that I can manage something before the first release.  Same process as the medals.

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Ok, well the RAF stuff is basically done, unless you want to take this opportunity to add new ribbons to the progression, I can make those before sending.

Here is an update on the recoloring for the US uniform.  I also have fake lapels on a layer above the wings (I forgot I did that, but remembered when I saw the uniform color change) so the wings and fruit salad can be partially obscured the further up on the chest the wings travel as the fruit salad gets bigger.

 

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Today I learned about American volunteer Eagle squadrons in the RAF, and the RAF pilot wings they could wear on their service uniforms later in the war.  (seen above)

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@ual002 That is a major improvement in the US uniform.  I can export the fake lapel and overlay it after I do the medals.  That will recreate the effect that you have.

 

Per the RAF, I am not going to add more medals right now.  If you can push whatever you have later this afternoon I will work with it this evening.

 

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Still chugging away at the Italians.  Decided to look at some other decorations to get a sense of the head space the uniform designers were in in the 40s.   I tried to become the Italian Hugo Boss. I think I made sense of some stuff.  But in the mid 40s the Italians changed some of the decorations.  In the first 3 columns you see war merit cross, cross of military valor and one you might have overlooked, the medal of aeronautic valor, highest grade on top.  The last 2 colums are knightly orders, Order of the roman eagle, and the military order of Savoy.  I think some of those awards come with a sash and since I designed a pistol belt layer I might be able to layer it under. eventually.  Some of the higher grades of those order also come with neck medallions, so while possibly taking some liberties, we can make the Italians a little more visually distinctive from the RAF.

Any Italian historians can jump in, my ears are always open.

 

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Shoot me an update of the RAF and improved US uniforms if you can.

 

I just added the new Bf109 G6 Late plus I have some code that varies formations a bit (not that there are many options).  if I can get a USAAF, RAF, Luftwaffe, and VVS paper dolls with medals that would be a good start.  If I get ranks done even better but that is IMHO not 100% necessary.  Italian uniform is also nice to have but not 100% necessary.

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While flying, I think I managed to update the file on the last google drive link I sent you.  Took a bit to upload.  Check that and let me know if its the newest stuff.  Not sure how this google drive thing works.

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That is the newest stuff.  I spent the evening working on ranks, updating the American, and getting the British in place.  All done.  Ranks now display.  The faux collar on the American works.  The German displays rank sensitive collar tabs and shoulder boards.

 

Note to self: still have to write special handling code for British medals with bar.

 

I also have some things that I need to share back with you.  Some faces.  Some modifications to the US officer's cap to fit the head.  Rank of major for US and Germany.

 

So other than Italian, round one of this is done.  

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Major for Germany should already be done for Germans.  Gotta find the fight subfolder.  Looking in both the collar and shoulder board tabs for the AF.  Make sure to choose the officer piping and the yellow backing.

Good call on the American Major.  That was on my list of todos and I forgot.  I'll take a look and see what you did.

 

Here is the Luftwaffe Major collar tab and Shoulder board.  Its a rather complicated system of layers, but its meant to support the wide range of division colors if I decide to add more than Flak and Pilot/paratrooper.  The more you play with it the more you will realize how dynamic it can be, specifically for the german side.

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Piping color for shoulder boards
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Color backing for collar tabs.

 


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4 minutes ago, ual002 said:

OMG.  I see it.

You just aged yourself boss.

 

 

I had the same thought (I'm old).  Didn't want to say anything in case it was self portrait :) .  Still, for all the similarities (gap tooth smile, hair color, etc.) I actually like it as a pilot portrait.  It's the one that I chose to use for the British pilot (swappable faces not yet implemented)

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Pat, before you send your updates, do me a favor and mark all the layers and groups your touched or added with a purple group coloring.  Send when ready, no rush,.  Also for my own sanity, confirm the thing I sent about the Luft major rank.  If you didnt like the art thats fine, I just want to make sure you didnt miss it buried in all the layers.

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19 minutes ago, ual002 said:

Pat, before you send your updates, do me a favor and mark all the layers and groups your touched or added with a purple group coloring.  Send when ready, no rush,.  Also for my own sanity, confirm the thing I sent about the Luft major rank.  If you didnt like the art thats fine, I just want to make sure you didnt miss it buried in all the layers.

 

Major is there and yours is better than mine, so strike that.  Really that leaves some faces and maybe some cap alignment to go along with those faces.  If I did change the cap in any way I will add those as well as separate options

 

The other thing is that every item that is an overlay - medals, ribbons, ranks, etc. has to be resized such that the layer size is the same as the image size.  This does not affect the artwork in any way.  The fact that every layer is the same size, even if most of it is empty, allows PWCG to overlay the different pieces to create a composite image.

 

I'll get that together soon.

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Marines are ready for an eventual pacific expansion.
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I also found an original from the collection I had not previously seen after being about 90 percent complete with the base uniform.  The resolution was lower because it wasn't on its original source website.  I grabbed a few pieces, like the cover, sword and the marksman badges.  I still wish I knew who the artist was.

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11.7.0
Added Bf109 G6 Late
Added Paper Dolls in medal view

- Thanks to @ual002 for all of the hard work in making these things.  As you can see from the posts above, a lot of effort went into this.

- Not available for Italy in WWII or FC yet.
Varied formations
- Fighters will now use V

  - Best formation for a 3 man plane flight

  - More like a finger 4 than echelon right for a 4 plane flight
- Bombers may use V or echelon

- Dive bombers and transports use echelon
 

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Patrick, are you planning to use the 1941-1942 uniform for the Soviet pilot?
And yet, since the pilot's shoulder straps are a junior lieutenant, it would be logical to change the sergeant to a junior lieutenant in the game.

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Just had a chance to install 11.7.0 and look at the new medals screen with our proud heroes wearing their uniform medals.  Very nice work @ual002, @PatrickAWlson, and @Kur12, thank you all!!  I also look forward to seeing the additions along the way.

 

However, I do miss seeing the date the medal was awarded.  Would it be possible down the line to add that to a new Awards/Promotions page in the pilot log or to have the date display below the medal in the box when hovering the mouse?

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I also have some pointers on some fine detail stuff on the pilot portrait that can wait until we get a chance to play test, but the first one I will mention is the American awards, I think the Distinguished Service Cross is overlapping the bronze star.

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1 hour ago, Kur12 said:

Patrick, are you planning to use the 1941-1942 uniform for the Soviet pilot?
And yet, since the pilot's shoulder straps are a junior lieutenant, it would be logical to change the sergeant to a junior lieutenant in the game.

 I'm sure if I get the art done, he can throw it in with a conditional trigger.  To start I just wanted stand in for the whole war, I think he felt the same way.
We can dive back into the art of the earlier uniform here in a bit.  FIRST, TO FLYING.

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We can keep ,making incremental improvements.   The text box can be put underneath the medal box.  I am hoping @ual002 can do the Italians and WWI for FC.  A date conditional switch is not a problem. But all in good time.  

 

Small thing i did for myself but anybody can use it: a personal paper doll.  It is displayed when the player is selected.

If you look in the data structure you will see a folder called BoSData\Images\PaperDoll with four countries.  Each of those countries has a set of PNG files, one of which is PaperDoll.png.

Make the same folder structure under your User directory: i.e. User\PaperDoll\<Country>

Copy a PaperDoll..png file (or make a brand new one) into User\PaperDoll\<Country> such that you have User\PaperDoll\<Country\PaperDoll.png

Make the user PaperDoll.png into whatever you want.

PWCG will  use that PaperDoll.png when displaying a player's medal box.  AI pilots will continue to use the default.

 

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I'm not sure if this is how it is to show up, but my Iron Cross Second Class is showing up in what I believe is a weird spot, but do correct me if I'm wrong.

 

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Well I did reinstall 11.6.1 and everything is working.  on 11.7.0 what happened is that the mission will generate, but when it came to fly the only screen that appeared was a battle field with sound only.  Push escape to exit the mission and a grey out screen shows up, I can select the End Mission and that's it.

 

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Yes the iron cross on that specific uniform is supposed to be on a ribbon bar, that button shouldn't be there.  The other luftwaffe variant in blue-grey has buttons and the 2nd class ribbon goes in that button hole.  I didn't want to nitpick before he got it all operational.

Bug Report: AI A-20s dont seem to ever start their engines with a taxi to runway start.

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27 minutes ago, ual002 said:

Yes the iron cross on that specific uniform is supposed to be on a ribbon bar, that button shouldn't be there.  The other luftwaffe variant in blue-grey has buttons and the 2nd class ribbon goes in that button hole.  I didn't want to nitpick before he got it all operational.

Bug Report: AI A-20s dont seem to ever start their engines with a taxi to runway start.

 

I can change that.  I think that you have the ribbon version.

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The color of the shoulder straps of the major of the Soviet pilot is wrong. It should be the same color as the shoulder straps of the lieutenants and the captain.
Now:

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Should be:

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Hi Pat

 

As taxman said when trying to create a new mission with an existing campaign I also got the spectator screen and could not continue.  I created a new campaign and it worked fine.

I then did some poking around in ME and looked at both the old and new and found that for the old campaigns  I had to click on the create linked entity button to link up and the mission then worked fine,  From what I can tell so far it seems to only affect the old campaigns....Hope this helps...

 

I just checked the new version for FC and I need to also click on the linked entity button for the mission to work.

 

Well when I did my test I was flying solo....when flying a regular mission I found that I would have to link all of my flight in the mission manually, including escorts...others seem to link

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@Kur12 Is this better for the major coloring?


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I also started some light research into WW1 dress uniforms.  There is a rather large amount of variation for officers during that time period, especially on the German side.  I still think it was rather traditional for an officer to have his own tailored uniform back then, and the tailors seemed to take liberties on design.
 


Pat, I threw together this visual guide for the American.  If I understand the regulations right, this is how the ribbons should be displayed.

If you create a logic that orders the medals based on priority, and the lowest number is the highest priority, following this list, you should be able to place the decoration in a specific order depending on how many the player has.

List: https://www.americanwarlibrary.com/display/usa.htm

Then the logic and code could rearrange the ribbons based on priority as they get them.  Someone familiar with the regulations should verify this.

 

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20 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

11.7.0
Added Bf109 G6 Late
Added Paper Dolls in medal view

- Thanks to @ual002 for all of the hard work in making these things.  As you can see from the posts above, a lot of effort went into this.

- Not available for Italy in WWII or FC yet.
Varied formations
- Fighters will now use V

  - Best formation for a 3 man plane flight

  - More like a finger 4 than echelon right for a 4 plane flight
- Bombers may use V or echelon

- Dive bombers and transports use echelon
 

Hi Patrick,

Hate to pee in your pool...but are there going to be any medal descriptions(like in FC) to be added to the medal page?

Medals look good...and so does the uniform...but there is nothing indicating what the medal/award is.

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1 hour ago, Atlantia39 said:

Hi Patrick,

Hate to pee in your pool...but are there going to be any medal descriptions(like in FC) to be added to the medal page?

Medals look good...and so does the uniform...but there is nothing indicating what the medal/award is.

 

Hover over the medal in the medal box.

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Hello is it possible to substitue the face of a Paperdoll...png by his own face? Except photoshop is there a tool in windows 10 allowing to change the face? Thanks for answers.

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4 minutes ago, Azdack said:

Hello is it possible to substitue the face of a Paperdoll...png by his own face? Except photoshop is there a tool in windows 10 allowing to change the face? Thanks for answers.

 

It's a PNG image so you can do with it as you wish.  I use Gimp for image manipulation.  it's not PhotoShop but it is very good and free.

 

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