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11 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

 

. Maybe some good shots of the Prokhorovka map? It sounded like it was pretty far along.

 

Oh yes. I am also interested to learn if we possibly get a flight career coupled with this 1943 module, so that we not only can fight in tanks over the map but also might be able to go tank hunting in IL-2s, FW 190s and Ju 87 Gs.

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17 hours ago, unreasonable said:

Presumably "Victories - Ground"  relates to aircraft destroyed on the ground. If so it might make sense that P-51s got a lot of these as they did the furthest penetration escort missions and were encouraged to attack airfields on the way back. Once the GAF had pulled its fighters back it got progressively harder for the shorter range P-47s to reach airfields with ground targets until late in the war when everything was in range.

 

edit:  removed nonsensical comment.  But add: reading James Holland's book "Big Week" recently he mentions that the GAF learned to time their attacks on the USAAF bomber raids in 1943-44 so that they would attack just after the P-47s had turned back.  The P-51s went all the way to the targets so the Germans had to fight through the escorts. Hence P-51s would have had more fights, victories and losses in escort sorties at least.

 

This is just my speculation.

 

I have really enjoyed James Holland's work immensely. I just wanted to mention, whilst I have not yet read "Big Week" his "Fortress Malta" has been one of my favourite reads from this writer. An excellent composition.

 

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36 minutes ago, sevenless said:

Oh yes. I am also interested to learn if we possibly get a flight career coupled with this 1943 module, so that we not only can fight in tanks over the map but also might be able to go tank hunting in IL-2s, FW 190s and Ju 87 Gs.

At present we've no such plans, there will be 2 tank scripted campaigns only.

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17 hours ago, LF_Gallahad said:

P-47 also were in a more dangerous enviorement in the last part of the war, ground attacks are always tough, even debris can take you down.

 

This is true. When you see rough numbers on losses, say comparing two planes and which suffered more losses,  you automatically think that one got "shot down while in aerial combat" more than the other,  but it may be more complicated than that. Specially if one was more used in ground attack roles.

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9 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

 

But presume the map is useable for aircraft? Suspect 3rd party campaigns will follow fast.

 It is usable for aircraft, but at only 100x100km it is a very small map to base any kind of campaign or career for pilots on.

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20 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

 It is usable for aircraft, but at only 100x100km it is a very small map to base any kind of campaign or career for pilots on.

This map has enough size to show German offensive (July 5-17) and Soviet counter offensive till August 5 on the southern flank of the Kursk battle.

But you need to have TC and BOK or TC and one of the collector plane to play such career. I don't know if we make such decision...

 

31 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

But presume the map is useable for aircraft? Suspect 3rd party campaigns will follow fast.

Of course, there will be several Russian bases and all main German airfields near Belgorod.

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2 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

This map has enough size to show German offensive (July 5-17) and Soviet counter offensive till August 5 on the southern flank of the Kursk battle.

But you need to have TC and BOK or TC and one of the collector plane to play such career. I don't know if we make such decision...

 

Please do it and I can tell you, if you release a Yak-9 as a supplement I would buy that also.

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6 minutes ago, NN_RugbyGoth said:

And Yak3!

Wololo?

 

The Yak-3 would have no use on the Prokhorovka map - unlike the Yak-9.

 

I would gladly pay 20$ each for a Yak-9 (or preferably a Yak-9T) and a late series LaGG-3. Add in a Ju 87D5 and you have nearly everything you could wish for in a Kursk plane set.

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53 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

Ask Jason :)

I think this is a very difficult and risky decision.

 

If you could offer early access-type pay scheme for a Yak-9 (pay now, released in the next few months) I expect - though obviously it is only an observation - that there would be considerable interest.

 

But that is also a resource management question for the team.

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51 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

Ask Jason :)

I think this is a very difficult and risky decision.

 

If you would put the Yak-9 on a preorder page right now, I would order it quicker than you can say "peep". Yes discuss it with the team if you have ressources for doing it. My bet is you would get a lot of additional sales for TC only due to the fact that the map would be either integrated in the current career system or ship with additional campaigns for planes.

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Exciting times ahead! I would love a dedicated Tank hunter campaign on TC map. It would be great to use that new vehicle damage model. I think, like someone said before, that scripted campaigns would be a great idea. Also, like sevenless said, adding a small "career" even for a week with 2 or 3 planes for the east front would be top notch.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, NN_RugbyGoth said:

P47 and K4 official skins today?

 

We have had the P-47 ones already.

 

I think you are right about the K4 skins, but honestly I’d rather get something that we aren’t gonna have on our own harddrives in little over a week.

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please something that just doesn't have anything to do with the upcoming planes, I can't handle hearing/seeing something about these without actually getting my hands on them 

 

Maybe

- a look at the advancements on the different maps

- a look at how AirMarshall would be implemented

- an explanation on how they're implementing high-mach effects and what effects it'll have on flight characteristics for different planes

- ...

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1 hour ago, CrazyDuck said:

Well, basic Yak-9 isn't much different from the Yak-1B, which we already have. Yak-9T, M or U are of course another story and I'd gladly pay for them.

There were two branches of the evolution of Yakovlev fighters. The first branch is the Yak-1, Yak-1b and Yak-3 and the second is the Yak-7 two-seat training aircraft. Due to heavy losses in 1941, the Yak-7s began to be released as combat fighters. You can see its late modification Yak-7b in BOK. The Yak-9/9D/9DD is very close in design to the later Yak-7b.

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AFAIK, it's not an update.

9 minutes ago, 77.CountZero said:

And only Yak-9U would bring noticable performance boost compared to Yak-7B we already have :)

But in comparison with Yak-7b, Yak-9 is a very sightly aircraft. It would be a great collection plane.

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Yaes Yak-9 is good looker and head turner, but Yak-9U has it all good looks and performance its top pick in any Yak miss contest, just look at that bubble curves and that botom rad and nouse is also slimlined and without bunmps compared to early yaks :)

 

yak-9.gif

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22 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

 

It would be a great collection plane.

 

Imho not that much since its very similar to the Yak-1B in both performance and looks. I know they have their development differences, different structure and cockpit, but I feel like I wont be getting much more in comparison to the Yak-1B which is a collector already. One of the subvariants like Count Zero mentioned (T, M, U) would add something more unique to it. Imho the place for a regular Yak-9 or Yak-9D in the sim would be as part of a standard plane list inside an expansion

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6 minutes ago, 77.CountZero said:

Yaes Yak-9 is good looker and head turner, but Yak-9U has it all good looks and performance its top pick in any Yak miss contest, just look at that bubble curves and that botom rad and nouse is also slimlined and without bunmps compared to early yaks :)

We won't be able to use any soviet planes produced in 1944 -45 in the Eastern Front career. It would be the planes only for MP and quick missions.

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25 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

AFAIK, it's not an update.

But in comparison with Yak-7b, Yak-9 is a very sightly aircraft. It would be a great collection plane.

This. I was so disappointed when the Yak-7b was announced in the BoK plane set instead of the Yak-9. I get it the extra 12.7 in the nose is good but does it really make up for being so ugly???

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Just now, Danziger said:

This. I was so disappointed when the Yak-7b was announced in the BoK plane set instead of the Yak-9.

There were 3 Yak-7b regiments and only 10-12 Yak-9 planes in the spring Kuban air battle. The choice was obvious...

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4 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

We won't be able to use any soviet planes produced in 1944 -45 in the Eastern Front career. It would be the planes only for MP and quick missions.

 

Yeah, it would be mostly to have a Yak to go along the BoBP planes in MP given that we wont be seeing an Eastern Front expansion in some years, Jason said he wanted to make a Yak-9 or Yak-3, for the users that like Soviet planes

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Just now, BlackSix said:

We won't be able to use any soviet planes produced in 1944 -45 in the Eastern Front career. It would be the planes only for MP and quick missions.

Yes thats a problem with Yak-9s at this time, if Yak-9 or other 1943 yak-9s were available, guys who have Yak-1B or Yak-7b would probably see no point in geting it, but it could be used in SP campaigns in Kuban. 

But on other hand Yak-9s from 44-45 that could be good vs Doras and K-4s have no SP stuff like you say exept QM or maybe some user made scenarios on existing maps but "not full historical", so its not an easy choice Devs have there.

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B6, out of interest is there a metric that you use for calculating RoI for a new aircraft? I ask only because there seems to be quite a lot of interest in the Yak-9 and what with the Prokhorovka map in the works, this is one of the few major types still missing for a full '43 set (maybe a Ju -87D-5 as well).

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14 minutes ago, 77.CountZero said:

Yaes Yak-9 is good looker and head turner, but Yak-9U has it all good looks and performance its top pick in any Yak miss contest, just look at that bubble curves and that botom rad and nouse is also slimlined and without bunmps compared to early yaks :)

 

yak-9.gif

The plane in the middle looks like Yak-9M to me (cockpit moved slightly backwards). AFAIK Yak-9D was almost identical to Yak-9D lookswise.

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