-[HRAF]Roland_HUNter

Now: this is why I Started this topic. So if somebody insult me And I take it: Its an insult. If I not take it: its not an insult. Okey. [edited]

So if somebody start asking: Is the armor penetration is implemented or not, because he don't want to believe what happening in the game, is it whining? Okey. bzc3lk and Cpt_Siddy proved maybe i'm right. But from the begining everybody talked with me like i was a retarded who don't know physics and want STRONGER Luftwaffe MG, when I just started to defend the Reds. Exmplain this to me please. And should I acted like?" Oh yeah you guys are right and please insult me more." "nobody has made any personal insults" Are u sure? " Nice to see some good old fashioned, make it up as you go along, luftwhining again. "

Do you live on Earth? Do you know what is sarcasm? Luftwhining? Boi I started to defend the Yak, and I did luftwhining? Okoy. 1.What specific mauser round are you refering to: Boi in the game for the Mg17 we have only AP rounds but yeah thank your for attacking my personal with the "luftwhining" marker. Best arguing ever. 2.Mg-17 And Bf-109 3.Yak has only 8mm armor behind the pilot back. So from 500-800 meter I should not pen it. MG-17 can pen 7mm armor of steel from 500meter at 0° 4.Vertical 0°/Horizontal 90° from 6 o'clock Nice to see see some good old fashioned:" I ll join the conversation with some personal marking/ personal attacks and not making any argument" butt hurted arogancy again.

Gotcha! 😄

Okey guys good to see, all of you just ignoring the armor plate. And ye, we shoud test the layered wood/aluminium against 8mm machinegun from 300-500 meter. Please somebody test it.

Thank you, at the moment I wanted to upload it 😄 And do not forget, behind the pilot seat there was a 8mm armor aswell.

Are u read the site where they tested it?

I hope everyone of you know, from the Bf-109 G-2 behind the fuel tank, there isa 27mm thick armor plane, so if u shot the 109 from the back, there should be no fuel tank leak from 500-600 meter or closer. Even 50 cal can only pen 16mm of armor of steel from 500 meter. So :)))

Are u sure about that? x) https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/finding-cover-stop-bullets/

Hello Everyone! Its already in the game or its not implemented yet? Because when a 7.92 mm Mg17 hit a yak from 800 meter it should not pen it. I'm curious, because with less pen at range, it should motivate the pilots to shot from closer ranges, and not spray-and pray from 600 meter when the bullet not 100% should pen the plane surface.

I can't read the sources sadly I have to buy it for that 😄 xD

https://books.google.hu/books?id=GUI3DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA3&hl=hu&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false This book says the Yak-1b had 1.6777 CLMax at 4000 meter. With your calcualtions this is not 1.6777: 28311,79/(0.5*0.8194*17,15*2070)=1,9465 How? 😄

With std weight the F-4 is stalling at 154 km/h. The same given in the specs.

Are u sure its this correct? Becase with this, with the maximum take off weight, the spit IX has only 1.17 CL max at sea level, what is unbelievable 😄 Spit IX CLMax=32940/(0.5*1.225*22.48*45.2^2)