Melonfish

I'm hopeful we'll have a lot of options on the hurricane bout just the eastern front configs.

I'm not really sure what you're saying here but i was merely pointing out that what you took for personal insults were not in fact personal insults. unless of course you identify with being a whiner, which as i say would mean it was a personal insult. I really can't spell this out any more for you.

For a Lanc you can go here: https://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/ for a tour of a static and being rebuild Halifax you can go here: http://yorkshireairmuseum.org/ i've done the latter, she's lovely and they're still putting a lot of work into her, but damn, you feel nekid in there, the skin is so thin, there's absolutely nothing to stop bullets in that thing! how they flew those planes from yorkshire all the way into germany, bombed things and got home, honestly i'll never know, let alone how they got off the runway with their massive testicles. very humbling experience, i highly recommend it. Yorkshire air museum also have a Dakota, they fire up the engines occasionally and you can go inside the rear section too, they do talks etc.

For the record, this indicates you're talking about the skin of a plane, you do not mention the armour plate behind the pilot you specifically mention the surface of the plane. hence the reactions to your post, we didn't think you were "retarded" we're merely incredilous at your absurd claim. this is normal. This isn't a personal insult, seriously, he's just pointing out you're whining and making it up as you go along which if you re-read the entire thread it does appear that you're doing so from a casual observer. again i refer to thinking about the point you wish to make before posting. a personal insult is directed at your character, personality, or individual traits. unless you accept that Whining is a trait of yours? in which case yes, that would constitute a personal insult from DD_Arthur.

Yikes, where to begin? First off flower, nobody has made any personal insults, if anything they were observations, a personal insult is something that outlines a character flaw or percieved fault, for instance "You have the emotional range of a watercress sandwich" see? we're simply observing on your post, i.e. whining. now, with regards to "Do you know what is sarcasm?" i'm sorry but i've never heard of that term before... again an observation, you changed your argument then acted like you'd caught someone out, when pulled on that you went with the "it's sarcasm!" argument, this is classic schrodingers A-hole tactics, quite obvious tbh, if you wish to make a point on a forum consider it and lay it out properly instead of going off half cocked. 'Boi' should be spelled Boy, and i'm probably old enough to be your father... Now your actual query. the MG17 ammo if all AP would be S.M.K l'Spur ammo, a tracer coating on a short steel core. This ammunition was a 6.5gram (101gr) bullet and had a muzzle velocity of 810 m/s (2,657 ft/s) it could penatrate 18mm of RHA at a 90° impact angle and 13mm of RHA at a 30° impact angle at 100m. After calculating muzzle velocity drop off (almost half at 400m alone) i'd actually agree with you that you'd likely not penatrate the armour plate of a Yak (assuming it's 8mm of RHA) if firing from the mathmatically improbable position you'd listed. I'd be a little unsure about 500m but i'm pretty confident 800m would see you safe to fly another day. Now flower, that took me a whole 5 minutes of googling, before you post another whine and start clashing against other members of the forum maybe, and i'm just spitballing ideas here, maybe look it up? Pete

No, you changed your argument half way through and believe you're being clever, the problem is you're just coming off as an a-hole now. if we take the overall jist of your posts your luftwhine is that the 8mm mauser round is capable of penatrating a YAK's armour plate from 800 meters. TBH That may well be so, but it entirely depends on the variables. What specific mauser round are you referring to? (phosphor B or SmKL AP?) what was it fired from? (MG17 is stated at least) What was it fired at? (Yak, but what make and model? what year?) what did it strike? (which armour plate?) What angle was it shot at? (any treadhead will tell you that angle is key when armour is involved) in short, consider your argument before you make it. Pete

Your average plane skin is about as thick as that of a tin of baked beans... take a tin of beans to the range, put it at 1000 yards and fire a 30cal round at it, if you hit it it'll go right through without thinking of stopping.

I put this off as i've recently got a new pc and thought perhaps this was my fault but after doing a number of tests on my drives i can confirm it's the game. loading the game initially usually took a relatively short amount of time, up to 1 min normally. now it's taking up to 2 minutes to load, QMB where previously starting that took less than 30 secs now takes up to a min. i've verified all my files and as i say i've done a number of read/write checks on my drives and they're fine. my old setup was reading from a 250 Samsung Evo SSD. current setup is on a WD Blue m.2 500gb. I'm guessing this is an optimisation issue perhaps? is it just me or are others seeing this? thanks

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Only the ones bought via the IL2 site will appear, steam purchases won't show. so i'm similar to you here.

Aren't the internals 2k standard? even on 4k skinned planes?

The Griffon powered spit would be nice, though not sure it would provide much difference to a mkIx other than speed.

The 5700XT is a great card, I switched a few years ago to be fair from amd to nvidia, i used to swear by amd but the drivers got so terrible i switched, i'm sure they're better now but honestly i find the geforce experience program very easy to use.

I basically weighed up whether to get the 5700XT and make use of the Pcie 4.0 or go with the 2060 super. the super won out in all the main comparison tests, but not by much! both fantastic cards. the 2060 super or the 2070 range all handle Ray tracing very well, you don't need the 2080 just for ray tracing. AMD driver issues was one of the reasons I went Nvidia again, they are a pig and the nvidia experience program makes updates a doddle.

I actually expected something of a can of worms for this topic but I have to say there are some great points made, thank you everyone for keeping it grounded. I think yes, my personal issue is the root failure of the wings, i've seen plenty of mid wing and that i don't mind so much but it's the root failure that gets me, it seems a little too unrealistic without the acompanying fuel/ammunition explosion, and perhaps that is modelled in but we don't have the big flashbang to go with? I'm keen to see further work in this area I guess but i wanted a bit more direction before raising suggestions to the dev team. Interestingly those that mention the 190, it's worth noting that the main fuel tanks were directly under the pilot, literally. the pilot sits on the main tanks and they occupy the space immediately behind the rear wing spar. i'd imagine that would go boom rather well.